NG Email addresses starting with daver!

http://www.xe.net/currency/

Take Care,

Soraya

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Soraya may be reached = at...
soraya@cros.net
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Soraya's=20 web site is currently undergoing reconstruction…
"The = Witches'=20 Thicket" may be found at...
http://www.cros.net/soraya
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"For=20 Passionate People These Are Desperate Times,
Desperate Measures Call = For=20 Passionate Crimes"
--Michael Stanley

------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE465F.4945C820-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 21:32:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:43:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "Brian Shepherd" , "bungi" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Is it me? Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:44:53 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.164453.0> Precedence: bulk Brian the Brit, I have no problems receiving your messages. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Shepherd To: bungi Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Is it me? >Hello All > >Bob the Dinosaur reports trouble with one of my messages. Can others read it >? >Is he having trouble with everybody's or is it just mine? >Is there anything wrong with my messages normally apart from the English >accent? >I can read my own Ok when they come back! > >Concerned > >BtB > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 21:36:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:45:19 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "Shirley Balloch" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Speaking of gnomons Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:47:24 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.164724.0> Precedence: bulk Great Shirley do I need a replacement. Do you know if the operation is very painful? Butterflies are great and they tickle. LOL -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Balloch To: glass@bungi.com Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Speaking of gnomons >I just got my Glass Crafter's sales flyer and they have a butterfly >gnomon on sell. >I thought I would share that with the group. >Shirley B >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 21:49:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:46:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "Kaye Sodt" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: NG Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:49:11 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.164911.0> Precedence: bulk And butterflies are free. Oh, the colors! -----Original Message----- From: Kaye Sodt To: glass@bungi.com Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: NG >Gnomons with butterflies? That should "tickle" Patrick! > >K. >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 22:01:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:53:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "Tim Byrnes" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: NG/Yen to Dollars Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:54:27 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.165427.0> Precedence: bulk Tim, et al, Actually currency is part of SG. If you don't believe me ask any retailer or wholesaler Do a search for "currency converter" there are numerous daily quotes. Failing that let me know and I'll ask the most knowledgeable ...... My Japanese students. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Byrnes To: glass@bungi.com Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 10:20 PM Subject: NG/Yen to Dollars >Hi Folks, >I know this has nothing to do with glass. I just received a catalog from >"KODO" and all there prices are quoted in Yen, and not Dollars. I need >to know how many dollars=3,400 Yen. If someone knows where I can get >this Info, please email me off the list, at tbyrnes@iconn.net > >Thank you, >Tim Byrnes >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 22:08:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:09:10 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: mail.island.net!seaspray From: seaspray@mail.island.net (Carol Swann) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Bungi 101 and bios Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:08:06 -0800 Message-ID: <199901230508.VAA00939@oceanus.island.net> Precedence: bulk >Sparks, that was the best answer to "what's a bungi?" that I've ever >seen. I hope you don't mind that I've captured it and put it up on >the IGGA site. Gee, maybe Patrick could send it to new members when he hounds (pun intended) them for their bios :) C. Carol Swann Synergy Glass & Creative http://www.igga.org/synergy seaspray@island.net check out the latest info on Elisabeth's trip at: http://come.to/The_E-Tour ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 22:20:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:42:29 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: vdot.net!shyguy From: Bob the Dinosaur To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Yen to $$ - currency conversion Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:39:19 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.163919.0> References: <<1999Jan22.18317.0>> Precedence: bulk This one is one of the problematic posts - from the header we see: From: "Soraya" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; <----Soraya, this (I think was sent by Netscape?) has to change to 'plain text'. If you are using netscape, can you go into 'preferences' and change to send plain text only? Depending on the version you are using, it may be under 'formatting'. Thank you Soraya wrote: ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 22:31:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:43:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "Soraya" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Yen to $$ - currency conversion Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:46:00 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.17460.0> Precedence: bulk Hello Soraya, I don't remember seeing a bio from you. How about sending me a bio for posting. Your name is very intriguing and we know there is a story behind it. -----Original Message----- From: Soraya To: glass@bungi.com Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 11:17 PM Subject: Yen to $$ - currency conversion >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE465F.4945C820 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Dear Tim, > >Here are two sites that should help: > >The On-Line Currency Converter = >http://www.delawareintercorp.com/currency.htm > >The Universal Currency Converter=99 > http://www.xe.net/currency/ > >Take Care, >Soraya > >~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Soraya may be reached at... >soraya@cros.net >~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Soraya's web site is currently undergoing reconstruction=85 >"The Witches' Thicket" may be found at... >http://www.cros.net/soraya >~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >"For Passionate People These Are Desperate Times, >Desperate Measures Call For Passionate Crimes" >--Michael Stanley > > >------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE465F.4945C820 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > >

Dear Tim,

Here are two sites that should help:

The On-Line Currency Converter href=3D"http://www.delawareintercorp.com/currency.htm">http://www.delawar= >eintercorp.com/currency.htm

The Universal Currency Converter=99

href=3D"http://www.xe.net/currency/">http://www.xe.net/currency/> >

Take Care,

Soraya

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Soraya may be reached = >at...
href=3D"mailto:soraya@cros.net">soraya@cros.net
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Soraya's=20 >web site is currently undergoing reconstruction…
"The = >Witches'=20 >Thicket" may be found at...
href=3D"http://www.cros.net/soraya">http://www.cros.net/soraya
~^~= >^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
"For=20 >Passionate People These Are Desperate Times,
Desperate Measures Call = >For=20 >Passionate Crimes"
--Michael Stanley

> >------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE465F.4945C820-- > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 22 22:43:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:17:58 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: vdot.net!shyguy From: Bob the Dinosaur To: Pat Kelly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: NG/Yen to Dollars Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:16:03 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.17163.0> References: <<1999Jan22.165427.0>> Precedence: bulk actually at close of the US market Friday there were 114.56 Yen to the Us dollar Pat Kelly wrote: > > Tim, et al, > > Actually currency is part of SG. If you don't believe me ask any retailer or > wholesaler > Do a search for "currency converter" there are numerous daily quotes. > Failing that let me know and I'll ask the most knowledgeable ...... My > Japanese students. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Byrnes > To: glass@bungi.com > Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 10:20 PM > Subject: NG/Yen to Dollars > > >Hi Folks, > >I know this has nothing to do with glass. I just received a catalog from > >"KODO" and all there prices are quoted in Yen, and not Dollars. I need > >to know how many dollars=3,400 Yen. If someone knows where I can get > >this Info, please email me off the list, at tbyrnes@iconn.net > > > >Thank you, > >Tim Byrnes > >---- > >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 00:52:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:07:12 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ior.com!glshorse From: Elizabeth Arakelian To: Cindy Pesonen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: (Fwd) Aspartame Danger - Not Glass Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:48:32 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.154832.0> References: <> Organization: Elizabeth Arakelian Precedence: bulk C > > > >What concerns me is my friend that drinks 20 glasses a day of this stuff. > my God, TWENTY GLASSES of the stuff a day??? I dont drink that much WATER...let alone anything else. Yes she SHOULD be concerned.....at that quantity......along those lines, I saw an ad the other day that annoyed me....it pretty much was along the lines of water is boring and since you of course, are not boring, you should add crystal lite (flavored nutrasweet) to your water. Given that an adult should be drinking eight or ten glasses of water a day, thats an awful lot of artificial sweetener. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 01:03:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:25:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: NG we have.... Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:35:59 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan22.203559.0> Precedence: bulk SNOW in Tulsa! Yeeeeeeeha! lol...it was over 70 degrees yesterday! My little guy is about fit to be tied! We went out for dinner tonight, it was sprinkling and cool, we came out of the restaurant, and it looked like it had been snowing all day! My son literally jumped up and down with glee saying "It snowing, it snowing!" He has been wanting snow sooo bad! This is really like his first time, as I don't think he can remember last years one or two days of snow! ;o) We have 4-6 inches! This is pretty wierd. We went out and played when we got home, and walked to the park. Got em in the house by 11pm. ;o) Fun! Tulsa Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 03:19:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:45:41 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Yegnim From: Yegnim@aol.com To: bshep@dircon.co.uk, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Is it me?NG Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 05:44:02 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan23.10442.0> Precedence: bulk No Brian, it is not you. You seemed concerned, so I wanted to assure you that I have no problem (personally) reading your messages. True, the accent did initially hamper me a bit, though I have acclimated myself to it by now. Lenore ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 04:21:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:39:06 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: cyf-kr.edu.pl!zekarasz From: "Pawel" To: "Bob the Dinosaur" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Odp: Product search Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:58:43 +0100 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.125843.0> Precedence: bulk I missed the beginnig of discussion on acrylics mixed with glass so perhaps my answer will miss the point. 1. acrylics and glass (inorganic) cannot be mixed - acrylic resins disintegrate above 200C, while glass melts - you know when. All you can do is to glue them to each other. 2. Perspex (trade name) do belongs to group of acrylic resins - it is (poly)methyl metacrylate [PMM]. It is produced in many countries under various trade names - in Europe plexiglass is commonly used as a synonime of all brands of PMM. It is used in aircraft industry indeed (I have a piece of it from US aircraft which is now 55 years old - still transparent and only slighty yelow). 3. PMM transparency is higher than of glass, particularly in UV region (unless specially treated), but it is not scrach resistant and bends easily when heated - because of that it cannot be used in windows in large sheets. 4. PMM is produced in many colours, shapes (rods, tubes, sheets) and dimensions 5. It can be easily cut, sawn, grinded etc with typical woodwork and metalwork tools, as well as bended, glued and so on 6. There are many books describing techniques of working with PMM as it is now very popular artistic medium: jewelry, sculptures, bric a brack etc. 7. In some cases (for instance as a protection) another transparent plastic can be considered - polycarbonate. It is commonly known as Lexan (at least in Europe). It looks very similar to PMM but is much more resistant to breakage - riot police shields for instance are made out of it. It has, however, the same disadvantages as PMM. Pawel >> What you are looking for is 'perspex'! ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 08:21:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:36:19 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!PDRUSS From: PDRUSS@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Patina Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:29:48 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan23.152948.0> Precedence: bulk I do this with a lot of my glass. Looks bronze to me. But I don't wax it between the cooper and black patinas. Dianne << Tonight I finished a commissioned panel, and without thinking patina'ed it copper. Waxed it up nice & shiny, held it up to admire it - and remembered! I had planned it to be black patina. Short term memory beginning to get a bit dusty. Anyway I pulled out the black patina and brushed it over the copper. Took a while longer to "take," but it did, and now it's a dull warm brown with undertones of copper. Actually quite pretty. Does anybody have experience of this? Are there long-term consequences, such as spotting with time? Could I have invented something to take the place of that expensive Jax patina? :) >> ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 08:33:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:56:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Witchdoc3 From: Witchdoc3@aol.com To: Glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Odp: Product search Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:54:10 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan23.155410.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/23/99 7:22:24 AM, zekarasz@cyf-kr.edu.pl wrote: > [...] 2. Perspex (trade name) do belongs to group of acrylic resins [...] Thanks for the info, Pawel, but I have a question. What does "odp" in your subject line stand for? one delightful Pole? our debonair Pawel? Help me out here, somebody! Sparks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 08:46:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:57:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Witchdoc3 From: Witchdoc3@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Speaking of gnomons Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:54:12 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan23.155412.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/23/99 12:36:59 AM, pkelly@n-link.com wrote: >Great Shirley do I need a replacement. Do you know if the operation is very >painful? >Butterflies are great and they tickle. LOL Is there a surgeon in the house? Is there a standard protocol for butterfly grafting, or will you have to wing it? That's our Patrick, ever willing to scale new heights of kinkiness! Sparks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 09:52:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:19:58 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Speaking of gnomons Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:21:09 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.5219.0> Precedence: bulk <<, or will you have to wing it?>> Isn't Sparks quite the punster? She does have her spark back after her bout with the flu. -----Original Message----- From: Witchdoc3@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Speaking of gnomons > >In a message dated 1/23/99 12:36:59 AM, pkelly@n-link.com wrote: > >>Great Shirley do I need a replacement. Do you know if the operation is very >>painful? >>Butterflies are great and they tickle. LOL > >Is there a surgeon in the house? Is there a standard protocol for butterfly >grafting, or will you have to wing it? > >That's our Patrick, ever willing to scale new heights of kinkiness! > > >Sparks >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 10:04:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:23:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "glass bungi com" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Bio #88 Blake Young Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:25:24 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.52524.0> Precedence: bulk A bio of Epic proportions or just plain long Hmmmm... my bio. I keep putting this off because I have no clue what to write about. But, I'm enjoying the information and friendly posts of the bunji group so much, that I feel guilty for not having paid my membership fee. 'IA' (cncptthnkr) offered the dubious wisdom of citing criminal activity in a bio. While this is TEMPTING, and would no doubt make for a more exciting read... alas, I find myself unequipped for the challenge. IA... rest assured that I'm working on it! (not!) I think I'll knock over a glass truck... cleverly disguised as Patrick! (wearing a tutu). THAT should allow me bungi bragging rights for the next bio update. (probably from behind bars, teaching stained glass in the local pokey) My name is Blake Young. I am 35 years old. (Male. Yep... I've met several female Blake's of late... go figure!) I have been working with stained glass for about 4 years now. I was born and raised in Houston Texas. Most of my life has been spent in Houston, with the exception of 3.5 blissful years in paradise, or as most people refer to it, Austin, TX. Many people assume I went to college there, but it was nothing quite so noble. I went up to see a football game with friends one weekend in my late teens, and the next weekend, I had a job and an apartment there. (editor's note.... I truly HATE sports, but have to admit, it was a great game!) I moved back to Houston with hopes of getting into the travel industry. (lofty goals, eh?) I worked as a corporate travel agent for the next 10 years. The career was a love/hate relationship. I LOVED the computer aspect of working in travel, and most of the customer relations, but I learned to hate existing at the whim of the airlines. (gosh I sound bitter!) I really did enjoy working in travel, but I sure don't miss many of the headaches. Almost 3 years ago, my roommate and I got a wild hair and bought a Victorian house in Fort Smith, Arkansas, where we now live. The house was built in approx. 1888. It is of Eastlake style with a little Queen Anne influence. It is my pride and joy. I love it! We don't have alot of money to fix it up, but we're in no hurry. We do a little more every year. Regarding the move from Houston to Fort Smith....? Yikes! Talk about culture shock! It's a lovely little town, but there's not a glass store within 2 hours of it. No theatre, and few restaurants. BUT on the up side.... it has considerably less traffic and I've yet to hear gunfire. I now work for a local internet service provider, as a 'customer support technician'. (yep yep yep... it's the official title... I prefer 'tech guy') I'm not a natural computer wiz, but they do fascinate me, and I love figuring them out! I've always liked to view myself as the moody, artistic type... with an emphasis on the moody. Frankly, the artistic part is pure fabrication, but 'moody, moody type' sounded redundant. I LOVE doing stuff! Nothing especially productive.... just doing crafting/creative stuff. My hobbies are: ***Stained Glass (nearest and dearest to my heart!) ***Black & White Photography (I have a darkroom, but use it much less since the glasswork began) ***Rubber Stamping (cards, etc. My sister inflicted this strange little addiction on me, and I can't seem to give it up!) My 'not necessarily hobbies, but love em anyway' activities: ***Gratuitous squandering of countless hours on the computer ***Movies (love em! can't live without em!) ***Nintendo (I know... ebmarrassing but true. I'm still looking for a Nintendo 12 step program....) Apparantly I'm safe from NO hobby. I just try to keep my exposure to new ones to a minimum! Four years ago, when we started looking for a Victorian house, I ordered a stained glass starter kit from Delphi online. I was instantly hooked! I work primarily with the copper foil method, although I have done some work with lead came. I am beginning to work more with came on bigger panels. I have repaired one of the main antique panels in our home, but most of the others are in remarkably good shape. I have done one lampshade. An Odessy dragonfly lampshade. It's beautiful. I could be a little biased. *grin*! I would like to make my glass hobby into a living. I don't anticipate it happening in the near near future, but I am hoping to someday make it a reality. (yes, I know this probably sounds naive, but ya gotta dream don't ya?) I think I've rambled pointlessly for long enough now. I love being a part of the bungi group. Money can't buy advice and generosity like I've found here! *group hug*! Thanks alot y'all! Blake Young :-) You can visit our website at http:\\users2.ipa.net/~blakey Patrick Roses and Rainbows ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 10:21:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:24:53 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "glass bungi com" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Bio #89 Patricia Lishman Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:26:41 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.52641.0> Precedence: bulk Well, here's my bio I was born in Vancouver, second of four children, in a hardworking but non-artistic family. When I was 12, my mother moved us to North Bay, Ontario where my she has a large extended family. We started to attend the family church regularly and this was a new experience for me. Our family pew was right next to a lovely and very traditional stained glass window dedicated to my great grandparents. The subject was the Baptism of Christ and the detail fascinated me. I spent hours gazing at that panel and the one beside it, only half listening to the minister. I couldn't figure out how the detail was added to the glass (the folds in the robes or the expressions on the faces). Then I noticed that many of the older homes in town had stained glass transoms or window panels and I decided that I wanted one in my home some day. Since then I've been tempted by stained glass work. When I go to a craft fair or even a gift shop I spend far too much time admiring the items on display (just ask the person I'm with). I didn't know anything about it. I just wanted to stay there and gaze. Now, of course, I am more discerning. I look at the items to see how they are constructed, which glass has been used, how many pieces, etc. Over the years I've been married, had a daughter, divorced, quit work and went to university for 4.5 years, spent another 7 years paying off my student loan and finally got to explore the medium of glass. I'm in heaven (when I'm not cursing my lack of skill). I took a beginners glass class last spring and am totally hooked. I'm still not particularly artistic. I work from patterns for now and get my dear daughter to give me an opinion on the colours. I'm learning. I'm gaining Patrick Roses and Rainbows ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 10:24:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:29:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: one.net!kleeman From: one.net!kleeman To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Speaking of gnomons Date: Sat Jan 23 09:27:32 1999 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.7532.0> Precedence: bulk some lead free solder and a weller 100 should do it! -----Original Message----- From: Witchdoc3@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Speaking of gnomons > >In a message dated 1/23/99 12:36:59 AM, pkelly@n-link.com wrote: > >>Great Shirley do I need a replacement. Do you know if the operation is very >>painful? >>Butterflies are great and they tickle. LOL > >Is there a surgeon in the house? Is there a standard protocol for butterfly >grafting, or will you have to wing it? > >That's our Patrick, ever willing to scale new heights of kinkiness! > > >Sparks >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 11:26:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:07:15 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!JJKIRBY From: JJKIRBY@aol.com To: pkelly@n-link.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Bio #88 Blake Young Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:04:22 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan23.19422.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/23/99 10:04:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, pkelly@n- link.com ***Rubber Stamping (cards, etc. My sister inflicted this strange little addiction on me, and I can't seem to give it up!) >> Before I turned my kiln into toast, I always wanted to try to rubber stamp designs on to glass with glass paint. Has anyone ever tried this? Results? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 12:29:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: prodigy.com!YWAH36A From: YWAH36A@prodigy.com ( BOB DUCHESNEAU) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Painting on glass Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:05:42, -0500 Message-ID: <199901231905.OAA13156@mime3.prodigy.com> Precedence: bulk >>Before I turned my kiln into toast, I always wanted to try to rubber stamp designs on to glass with glass paint. Has anyone ever tried this? Results? Glass paints may be silk screened on to glass to be fired as well as stenciled on. Stamping the paint on should work well. Just be sure the coverage and texture of the paint is what you want. Squeege oil might be the best carrier. Bob ____ Bob Duchesneau Mountain Meadow Stained Glass 92026 *Capt'n, the spell checker canna take this abuse!* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 14:02:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:30:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: netbridge.net!balloch From: Shirley Balloch To: Soraya Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Yen to $$ - currency conversion Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:10:32 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.51032.0> References: <<1999Jan22.18317.0>> Organization: Maiden Concepts Precedence: bulk Soraya wrote: Well this is what I got this time. So I followed Suzanne's advice and went to view and then document source and I got the message. Thanks all Shirley B ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 23 21:42:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:59:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: home.com!leestat7 From: leestat7 To: hotglass@list.bb.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Help with Torch???? Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.185334.0> References: <<000901be471c$7b385ba0$32abfed0@home.primeline.com>> Organization: @Home Network Precedence: bulk Hi All, I finally joined the hotglass e-mail list, have been on the cold glass lists for some time. Now I have a new torch set up (never done this before) and am having trouble with the glass. It is a propane/oxy torch, a Carlisle Mini CC. I am running the torch at 2-3 psi on the propane regulator, Oxy at 5 psi. Medium flame only slightly yellow, as recommended. Starting with soft Moretti glass (going to pyrex later), and have about 20 different colors to play with including clear. I am getting a lot of little bitty bubbles, and brown streaks in all the colors I've tried so far, on cooling (in vermiculite in coffee can) most are turning dirty gray. For learning and practice, I'm just trying to wind on a basic bead of each color to check for color changes. The mandrel winding and glass rod turning is no problem, I get a good shaped round or cylinder bead. I've tried several different oxy/fuel settings, still get the bubbles, brown streaks etc. All the variations I've thought of, are not helping, so will someone take pity on a beginner bead maker with some tips? I have several videos, and books, So have the basic idea, what now? Since I'm new at this, what am I doing wrong? Glass too hot? too far out in the flame? too close/ too much gas (maybe soot?) I've tried a 'blue' flame still same results. Thanks in Advance, Lee Boe Rain-Boe's Creations ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 06:10:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 05:43:36 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ameritech.net!garys From: "GARY SCHROEDER" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: NG Toby's Resolutions Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.34722.0> Precedence: bulk I found these wadded up and deposited in my inbox and believe they must be Toby"s Resolutions. Dogs pick the darndest places to hide things. I will not play tug-of-war with Mom's underwear when she's on the toilet. The garbage collector is NOT stealing our stuff. I do not need to suddenly stand straight up when I'm lying under the coffee table. I will not roll my toys behind the fridge. I must shake the rainwater out of my fur BEFORE entering the house. I will not eat the cats' food, before or after they eat it. I will stop trying to find the few remaining pieces of clean carpet in the house when I am about to throw up. I will not throw up in the car. I will not roll on dead seagulls, fish, crabs, etc. I will not lick my human's face after eating animal poop. "Kitty box crunchies" are not food. I will not eat any more socks and then redeposit them in the backyard after processing. The diaper pail is not a cookie jar. I will not wake Mommy up by sticking my cold, wet nose up her bottom end. I will not chew my human's toothbrush and not tell them. I will not chew crayons or pens, especially not the red ones, or my people will think I am hemorrhaging. When in the car, I will not insist on having the window rolled down when it's raining outside. We do not have a doorbell. I will not bark each time I hear one on TV. I will not steal my Mom's underwear and dance all over the back yard with it. The sofa is not a face towel. Neither is Mom's lap. My head does not belong in the refrigerator. I will not bite the officer's hand when he reaches in for Mom's driver's license and car registration. I will not bite the Irishman above the ankle, glass TuTus arn't digestable ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 06:48:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:11:05 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: fair.net!andor From: "Linda Letscher" To: "bungi.com" Subject: NG just checking to see if my e-mail works Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:09:49 -0500 Message-ID: <199901241410.JAA16087@smtp.america.net> Precedence: bulk Anybody up this morning? I haven't gotten any bungi mail since Saturday, guess some folks have a life. :-) Linda Jo Letscher Jacksonville, Florida ICQ uin #5072431 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 07:54:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 07:13:46 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: dircon.co.uk!bshep From: "Brian Shepherd" To: "Linda Letscher" , "bungi.com" Subject: Re: NG just checking to see if my e-mail works Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:05:16 -0000 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.15516.0> Precedence: bulk Linda As far As I'm concerned everybody over there is a laggard - I usually waste half my day checking for email that isn't there! Are they are all still asleep? Nice to know SOMEBODY gets up at a reasonable hour!(Wispeyblu (SP) is an early riser as well!) Good morning! It's a dull and grey winter day here - brightened by your email of course! Best regards BtB -----Original Message----- From: Linda Letscher To: bungi.com Date: 24 January 1999 14:51 Subject: NG just checking to see if my e-mail works >Anybody up this morning? I haven't gotten any bungi mail since Saturday, >guess some folks have a life. :-) > >Linda Jo Letscher >Jacksonville, Florida >ICQ uin #5072431 > > > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 08:18:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 07:42:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: fair.net!andor From: "Linda Letscher" To: "bungi.com" Subject: LJ met Walter and Rhonda Yesterday Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <199901241542.KAA21941@smtp.america.net> Precedence: bulk Yesterday I went up to Fernandina Beach and met Walter and Rhonda at Glass Safari. Real nice folks. Dan and I had a nice afternoon. It was a fun afternoon, talking glass and stuff. I willingly left a few dollars there. :-) It is just so nice to know of a retail guy close in case of glass emergency i.e. out of flux, out of solder that sort of thing. Thanks Walter and Rhonda. Sure hope you get your computer back up to snuff soon. Linda Jo Letscher Jacksonville, Florida ICQ uin #5072431 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 09:12:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:40:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "GARY SCHROEDER" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: NG Toby's Resolutions Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:40:51 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan23.44051.0> Precedence: bulk Too late for the last one. Like most of us he doesn't keep resolutions. LOL -----Original Message----- From: GARY SCHROEDER To: glass@bungi.com Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:20 AM Subject: NG Toby's Resolutions > > >I found these wadded up and deposited in my inbox and believe they must be >Toby"s Resolutions. Dogs pick the darndest places to hide things. > >I will not play tug-of-war with Mom's underwear when she's on the toilet. > >The garbage collector is NOT stealing our stuff. > >I do not need to suddenly stand straight up when I'm lying under the coffee >table. > >I will not roll my toys behind the fridge. > >I must shake the rainwater out of my fur BEFORE entering the house. > >I will not eat the cats' food, before or after they eat it. > >I will stop trying to find the few remaining pieces of clean carpet in the >house when I am about to throw up. > >I will not throw up in the car. > >I will not roll on dead seagulls, fish, crabs, etc. > >I will not lick my human's face after eating animal poop. > >"Kitty box crunchies" are not food. > >I will not eat any more socks and then redeposit them in the backyard after >processing. > >The diaper pail is not a cookie jar. > >I will not wake Mommy up by sticking my cold, wet nose up her bottom end. > >I will not chew my human's toothbrush and not tell them. > >I will not chew crayons or pens, especially not the red ones, or my people >will think I am hemorrhaging. > >When in the car, I will not insist on having the window rolled down when >it's raining outside. > >We do not have a doorbell. I will not bark each time I hear one on TV. > >I will not steal my Mom's underwear and dance all over the back yard with >it. > >The sofa is not a face towel. Neither is Mom's lap. > >My head does not belong in the refrigerator. > >I will not bite the officer's hand when he reaches in for Mom's driver's >license and car registration. > >I will not bite the Irishman above the ankle, glass TuTus arn't digestable > > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 09:28:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:29:02 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: mail2.nai.net!shad From: Family Account To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: NG just checking to see if my e-mail works Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:27:11 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.62711.0> References: <<1999Jan24.15516.0>> Precedence: bulk Well, you know how I'm spending my weekend? Working on designs and cleaning, cleaning, cleaning my work area. It was SOO bad by the end of the Christmas season that I didn't want to see it, but I've finally hitched up my courange and started tackling it. I had trays with patterns on them piled everywhere! For me, Jan-Mar is a kind of planning and sorting out time. I only do craft fairs Apr-June and Sept-mid Dec, so I'm sort of in relaxation mode. So, here it is, an e-mail fix. Also gray and wet here, but over 50 degrees and there are finally spots on the gound that are not covered with ice! Dorothy Brian Shepherd wrote: > Linda > > As far As I'm concerned everybody over there is a laggard - I usually waste > half my day checking for email that isn't there! Are they are all still > asleep? > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 12:37:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:21:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: erols.com!nadinesfolly From: "Nadine Beth Schneider" To: "Glass Enthusiasts" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Subject: Help! Stuck! Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:21:08 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.7218.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE47AD.2AE02700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I finally bit the bullet and bought a new disc for my Glastar G8 or G9 (I can't remember the number!) and now I can't get the old disc off. It is stuck. I've tried to unscrew it, but the screwdriver threatens to eat up the screwhead. I sprayed it a couple of times with WD-40, but nothing happens. Help! I have $110 disc but no way for it to play! Nadine Nadine's Folly ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE47AD.2AE02700 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Nadine Beth Schneider.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Nadine Beth Schneider.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Schneider;Nadine Beth FN:Nadine Beth Schneider ORG:Nadine's Folly Art Glass Studio TITLE:artist TEL;WORK;VOICE:703.724.7489 TEL;WORK;FAX:703.729.3251 ADR;WORK:;;43874 Amity Place;Ashburn;Virginia;20147-3801;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:43874 Amity = Place=3D0D=3D0AAshburn, Virginia 20147-3801=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL: URL:http://www.nadinesfolly.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:nadinesfolly@erols.com REV:19990124T232108Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE47AD.2AE02700-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 13:39:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:09:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!SandyJoh From: "SandyJoh" To: "Suzanne" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: NG we have.... Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:05:33 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.9533.0> Precedence: bulk Ya'll can come to Iowa anytime if that's all it takes to get you so excited!!!! Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne To: glass@bungi.com Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 3:07 AM Subject: NG we have.... >SNOW in Tulsa! Yeeeeeeeha! lol...it was over 70 degrees yesterday! > >My little guy is about fit to be tied! We went out for dinner tonight, >it was sprinkling and cool, we came out of the restaurant, and it looked >like it had been snowing all day! My son literally jumped up and down >with glee saying "It snowing, it snowing!" He has been wanting snow >sooo bad! This is really like his first time, as I don't think he can >remember last years one or two days of snow! ;o) We have 4-6 inches! >This is pretty wierd. > >We went out and played when we got home, and walked to the park. Got em >in the house by 11pm. ;o) Fun! > >Tulsa Suzanne >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 14:50:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:02:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: iconn.net!tbyrnes From: Tim Byrnes To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Thank you Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.12058.0> Organization: QM Stained Glass Precedence: bulk Hi Folks, I just want to say Thank you for all the Info, that I received on my Yen to dollar problem. {3,400 yen =$29.69 in US Dollars} Thank you again, Tim Byrnes ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 15:48:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:25:24 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Linda Campbell Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Non-Sugar Sweetner - Not Glass Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:24:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1999Jan24.72427.0> References: <<1999Jan22.35814.0>> Precedence: bulk Thanks Linda for your information about Stevia. This kind of info is helpful to me because my husband is a diabetic and still wants his coffee and tea sweetened. I had not heard of this substance before. Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 18:12:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:28:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!vlg From: "Vincent LaGreca" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: NG - Testing Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:25:45 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.152545.0> Precedence: bulk Testing! Ciao, Vic ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 19:36:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:25:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ghostman.com!candy From: "Candy Thurman" To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Bullseye glass Date: Sun, 24 Jan 99 20:24:47 Message-ID: <199901250325.UAA29680@mantis.privatei.com> Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone know if Bullseye has an URL yet? Couldn't find a reference to it anywhere.. Candy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 24 20:07:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:46:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: home.net!esavad From: "M. Savad" To: Candy Thurman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Bullseye glass Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.174458.0> References: <<199901250325.UAA29680@mantis.privatei.com>> Precedence: bulk Candy Thurman wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone know if Bullseye has an URL yet? Couldn't find a reference to it > anywhere.. > > Candy > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass http://www.bullseye-glass.com/ but they're not set up yet. ---Mike Savad -- Mike's Stained Glass - Tips Tricks Photos http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141 11-28-98 New Pages Added: 37 New Links in 5 Categories, A sneak preview of the Brilliance Award, A Foiling FAQ, and A Look at Sky City ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 04:37:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:19:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: memach.com!lcbell From: Linda Campbell To: "'GARY SCHROEDER'" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: NG Toby's Resolutions Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.22138.0> Precedence: bulk Don't have a dog at the present but was thouroughly amused by these. Good work. Linda ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 06:38:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:03:29 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: Prodigy.Net!NGRANGER From: NGRANGER To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Stuck Grinder disk Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:12:10 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan24.231210.0> Organization: Prodigy Internet Precedence: bulk I had the same thing happen with my Diamond Max. Try putting some "Liquid Wrench". That is eventually how I got mine off. I had to let the stuff sit on it over a couple of days. When I finally got it off I started to be religious about putting the graphite lubricant on the shaft. Good luck, its not easy. Nancy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 07:34:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:06:55 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: fidnet.com!dawnm From: "Dawn" To: "Tim Byrnes" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: NG/Yen to Dollars Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:59:48 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.05948.0> Precedence: bulk Hi Tim, I may be a little late with my answer since I have been out of town. When I need to convert currency I use a site I have bookmarked: http://www.xe.net/currency/ It is an extremely useful site. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Tim Byrnes To: glass@bungi.com Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 8:09 PM Subject: NG/Yen to Dollars >Hi Folks, >I know this has nothing to do with glass. I just received a catalog from >"KODO" and all there prices are quoted in Yen, and not Dollars. I need >to know how many dollars=3,400 Yen. If someone knows where I can get >this Info, please email me off the list, at tbyrnes@iconn.net > >Thank you, >Tim Byrnes >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 08:04:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:33:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: trellis.net!72867 From: "J&RinMonroe" <72867@trellis.net> To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: glass mosaic tiles-grout Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:32:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.53230.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01BE484E.02F34960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Does anyone out there do mosaics using the little glass tessare tiles? = I do glass mosaics and use cement for the grout. My daughter recently = tried doing mosaics with the tessare and used some kind of latex tile = grout and the grout cracked. Any recommendations on a kind of grout = that won't crack? Is there anything you can buy at your local home = improvement store? Thanks in advance. Roseanne ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01BE484E.02F34960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone out there do mosaics = using the=20 little glass tessare tiles? I do glass mosaics and use cement for = the=20 grout. My daughter recently tried doing mosaics with the tessare = and used=20 some kind of latex tile grout and the grout cracked. Any = recommendations=20 on a kind of grout that won't crack? Is there anything you can buy = at your=20 local home improvement store? Thanks in advance.

Roseanne

------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01BE484E.02F34960-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 10:34:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:59:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: pacifier.com!ptap From: Pamela Burns-Tappan To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------7494BCA9D53622DEDAB7AB74" Subject: glass mosaic tiles-grout Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:57:07 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.1577.0> Organization: Stained Glass Artists/Moswood Mountain Limited Precedence: bulk --------------7494BCA9D53622DEDAB7AB74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roseanne wrote: Hi Does anyone out there do mosaics using the little glass tessare tiles? I do glass mosaics and use cement for the grout. My daughter recently tried doing mosaics with the tessare and used some kind of latex tile grout and the grout cracked. Any recommendations on a kind of grout that won't crack? Is there anything you can buy at your local home improvement store? Thanks in advance. Roseanne What material is your daughter using to glue the tesserae too? Wood? Metal? If it's wood and she is using it outside or in damp conditions she might want to use marine grade/exterior plywood. She might strengthen the grout with acrylic admix. She might just stick to using 3 parts sand to one part cement and coloring it. She might want to use/buy sanded grout for this project. It's the same mix as above you just don't color it yourself, comes that way. Do not use un-sanded grout. She wants the mortar to be pliable but not runny. Cement mortar is usually the base for a mosaic. It secures the mosaic to the base as well as to the grout in between the glass. She could use a cement that has an adhesive added to it for extra strength too. I find if I'm using the admix instead of water I get better results on some projects. If I do the mosaic on a base of cement I don't use the admix just grout. I've had the above problem before on wood base. I think it was because the wood absorbed the water in the grout, therefore making the grout unstable and fall apart. That is the only reason I could think of as to why the grout cracked in the first place. I use exterior grade plywood, sanded grout, acrylic admix instead of water if I'm gluing right to the wood. Hope that helped some. Pam -- ********************************* Pamela Burns-Tappan Executive Director The Stained Glass Artists http://fly.to/The_Stained_Glass_Artists Moswood Mountain Limited http://come.to/moswood_mountain_limited http://start.at/MML_Web_Design1 --------------7494BCA9D53622DEDAB7AB74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roseanne wrote:

Hi
Does anyone out there do mosaics using the little glass tessare tiles?
I do glass mosaics and use cement for the grout. My daughter recently tried doing mosaics with the tessare and used some kind of latex tile grout and the grout cracked. Any recommendations on a kind of grout that won't crack? Is there anything you can buy at your local home improvement store? Thanks in advance.
Roseanne

What material is your daughter using to glue the tesserae too? Wood? Metal? If it's wood and she is using it outside or in damp conditions she might want to use marine grade/exterior plywood. She might strengthen the grout with acrylic admix. She might just stick to using 3 parts sand to one part cement and coloring it. She might want to use/buy sanded grout for this project. It's the same mix as above you just don't color it yourself, comes that way. Do not use un-sanded grout.

She wants the mortar to be pliable but not runny.
Cement mortar is usually the base for a mosaic. It secures the mosaic to the base as well as to the grout in between the glass. She could use a cement that has an adhesive added to it for extra strength too.

I find if I'm using the admix instead of water I get better results on some projects. If I do the mosaic on a base of cement I don't use the admix just grout. I've had the above problem before on wood base. I think it was because the wood absorbed the water in the grout, therefore making the grout unstable and fall apart. That is the only reason I could think of as to why the grout cracked in the first place. I use exterior grade plywood, sanded grout, acrylic admix instead of water if I'm gluing right to the wood. Hope that helped some.

Pam
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--------------7494BCA9D53622DEDAB7AB74-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 11:04:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:41:07 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ComCAT.COM!suzy From: "suzy@comcat.com" To: "glass bungi line" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: glass mosaic tiles-grout Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: <199901251839.NAA11482@uz.ComCAT.COM> Precedence: bulk 1/25/99 10:32 AM J&RinMonroe 72867@trellis.net >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01BE484E.02F34960 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi >Does anyone out there do mosaics using the little glass tessare tiles? = >I do glass mosaics and use cement for the grout. My daughter recently = >tried doing mosaics with the tessare and used some kind of latex tile = >grout and the grout cracked. Any recommendations on a kind of grout = >that won't crack? Is there anything you can buy at your local home = >improvement store? Thanks in advance. Hi Roseanne, I buy my grout at Home Depot, unmixed. It's no trouble to mix up a small batch as needed. They basically sell two kinds - sanded & non-sanded. I've found the non-sanded shrinks so then I need to re-grout. The sanded is a bit "sandier" but works the first time. Hope that helps. Suzannah ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 12:35:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:22:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: netbridge.net!balloch From: Shirley Balloch To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: glass mosaic tiles-grout Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:26:08 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.4268.0> References: <<1999Jan25.53230.0>> Organization: Maiden Concepts Precedence: bulk I didn't get this message either til I used Suzanne's advice. I was going to ask something along the same line. That Glass Crafter's flyer that I got last week also sells glass tiles. In 39 colors and 255 of them to a sheet. And they are supposed to be concave on the back so that they will glue to a rounded background. They show a clay pot done up with them and I would like to try a couple. Any idea how to get glass to stick to clay and then what kind of grout to use? Then how long do these last? My clay pots last maybe 2-3 years here on the Oregon Coast. They just soak up too much water and break apart. Would this process lengthen the life of clay? We then to do everything with plastic here. Hey that's a good question. Would it work with plastic and what kind of glue and grout to use with plastic pots? Thanks for your help in advance. Shirley B J&RinMonroe wrote: -- x�>"3� ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 13:03:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:36:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: prodigy.com!YWAH36A From: YWAH36A@prodigy.com ( BOB DUCHESNEAU) To: glass@bungi.com, ellenraper@worldnet.att.net Subject: Squeege oil Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:35:53, -0500 Message-ID: <199901251935.OAA14472@mime3.prodigy.com> Precedence: bulk >>What is squeege oil? Many thanks, Ellen, Raleigh, NC<< Squeegee (correct spelling) oil is a painting medium often used in the silkscreening of glass paints. The medium is the carrier of the components of the glass paint and burns off before the paint has been fired into the glass. Different mediums give different effects. Bob ____ Bob Duchesneau Mountain Meadow Stained Glass 92026 *Capt'n, the spell checker canna take this abuse!* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 14:04:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:28:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: softhouse.com!giapet From: "Karen K." To: "Bungi List" , "Shirley Balloch" Subject: Re: glass mosaic tiles-grout Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.11284.0> Precedence: bulk Shirley, I think you have to seal the clay pot on the outside or it will cause problems with the way the grout cures, the clay will absorb the moisture from the grout and that might also cause the grout to crack. I do mosaic tables on a wood base and seal those for that reason. Karen >I didn't get this message either til I used Suzanne's advice. >I was going to ask something along the same line. That Glass Crafter's >flyer that I got last week also sells glass tiles. In 39 colors and 255 >of them to a sheet. And they are supposed to be concave on the back so >that they will glue to a rounded background. They show a clay pot done >up with them and I would like to try a couple. >Any idea how to get glass to stick to clay and then what kind of grout >to use? >Then how long do these last? My clay pots last maybe 2-3 years here on >the Oregon Coast. They just soak up too much water and break apart. >Would this process lengthen the life of clay? We then to do everything >with plastic here. >Hey that's a good question. Would it work with plastic and what kind of >glue and grout to use with plastic pots? >Thanks for your help in advance. >Shirley B > >J&RinMonroe wrote: > >-- >x�>"3� >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 15:33:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:24:40 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: pacifier.com!ptap From: Pamela Burns-Tappan To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: glass mosaic tiles-grout-clay pots Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:24:16 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.72416.0> Organization: Stained Glass Artists/Moswood Mountain Limited Precedence: bulk If you are going to use a clay pot/terra cotta for mosaics it should be glazed. If your not using a glazed pot you want to waterseal the inside and outside so the pot won't crack. In our climate our pots crack if left outside and are not sealed. If you mosaic the whole outer area with grout you don't have to waterseal that part before grouting. But you should waterseal it after you finish the outer area of the pot. You can waterproof with white glue (outdoor safe) or use the patio paint in clear. I use patio paint for my fountains and pots. Pam -- ********************************* Pamela Burns-Tappan Executive Director The Stained Glass Artists http://fly.to/The_Stained_Glass_Artists Moswood Mountain Limited http://come.to/moswood_mountain_limited http://start.at/MML_Web_Design1 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 16:03:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:51:40 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: pacifier.com!ptap From: Pamela Burns-Tappan To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CD765DEC62479BFDB604D261" Subject: Re: glass mosaic tiles-grout clay pots Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:49:17 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.74917.0> Organization: Stained Glass Artists/Moswood Mountain Limited Precedence: bulk --------------CD765DEC62479BFDB604D261 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any idea how to get glass to stick to clay and then what kind of grout to use? Then how long do these last? My clay pots last maybe 2-3 years here on the Oregon Coast. They just soak up too much water and break apart. Would this process lengthen the life of clay? We then to do everything with plastic here. Hey that's a good question. Would it work with plastic and what kind of glue and grout to use with plastic pots? I forgot to add that you can use the same sanded grout just waterseal it when it's cured. I wouldn't use it on plastic pots the grout won't stick. That has been my experience with plastic. Use "Goop" marine grade adhesive or GE Silicon I believe is what Christie uses. Any product that says cement based tile adhesive will work too. Pam -- ********************************* Pamela Burns-Tappan Executive Director The Stained Glass Artists http://fly.to/The_Stained_Glass_Artists Moswood Mountain Limited http://come.to/moswood_mountain_limited http://start.at/MML_Web_Design1 --------------CD765DEC62479BFDB604D261 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any idea how to get glass to stick to clay and then what kind of grout
to use?
Then how long do these last? My clay pots last maybe 2-3 years here on
the Oregon Coast. They just soak up too much water and break apart.
Would this process lengthen the life of clay? We then to do everything
with plastic here.
Hey that's a good question. Would it work with plastic and what kind of
glue and grout to use with plastic pots?

I forgot to add that you can use the same sanded grout just waterseal it when it's cured.
I wouldn't use it on plastic pots the grout won't stick. That has been my experience with plastic. Use "Goop" marine grade adhesive or GE Silicon I believe is what Christie uses. Any product that says cement based tile adhesive will work too.

Pam

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Moswood Mountain Limited
http://come.to/moswood_mountain_limited
http://start.at/MML_Web_Design1
--------------CD765DEC62479BFDB604D261-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 18:34:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:24:27 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!CWWSLW From: CWWSLW@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: glass mosaic tiles-grout clay pots Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:10:32 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan26.21032.0> Precedence: bulk Any idea how to get glass to stick to clay and then what kind of grout to use? I've done dozens of clay pots with stained glass. Sometimes I cut my glass into little squares, other times I just use odd scraps as they are. I use a glue called "Weld-Bond." I glue my glass to the pot, (sometimes you have to do this a section at a time to keep it from sliding all over the place), let dry for a couple of days, then grout with the same sanded grout I use for my stepping stones. Sometime I tint the grout to match the clay. You can get this coloring agent in a bottle at Lowe's or Home depot. The only problem I've had with that is fading sometimes. I always seal my finished pot with a watered down mixture of the Weld-bond. Of course for the best protection, bring them inside for the winter! I don't see using plastic pots as they can bend and flex. This would cause problems with your grout cracking, as it is not flexible. Susan (Finally, a subject I could respond to!) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 20:04:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:33:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: eatumup.com!byronwells From: byronwells@eatumup.com (Byron Wells) To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Abrasive Blasting Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:40:53 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.154053.0> Precedence: bulk Hey All... I just bought a benchtop blaster to expand my horizons a bit...I blasted a few things to try it out and it works great! I was thinking I might want to do a batch of coffee mugs as "gimme" handouts for my better customers... I'd probably want "Wells Glassworks" and maybe a few graphics.... What is the best way to do this?? Just doing a few,cutting the resist by hand would be ok but for a few dozen that would be time consuming,not to mention worn out hands... Byron... Wells Glassworks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 22:37:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:07:10 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!rbmaaustin54 From: Ray&Mary Austin To: agw@digital.net, BoJack@Juno.com, dk3@netdirect.net, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: New email address Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:05:50 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan25.20550.0> Precedence: bulk Please send all future mail to either Ray or Mary to the address rbmaaustin54@worldnet.att.net We will be closing our account with Juno and hope this does not inconvenience you in any way. Thanks for your help and we look forward to hearing from you all. Ray and Mary Austin ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 23:05:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:30:49 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: mail.island.net!seaspray From: seaspray@mail.island.net (Carol Swann) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: glass engraving Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:28:22 -0800 Message-ID: <199901260628.WAA00451@oceanus.island.net> Precedence: bulk Does anyone on the group do glass engraving? I get several calls a month looking for this service, mainly for trophies, wedding glasses, awards, etc. I'd been referring them to the local trophy place and just found out they've been referring them to the glass studios...I'm wondering what equipment is involved, what the learning curve on this is, and where I can get a book or something on it. Always looking for new opportunities!! Thanks, C. Carol Swann Synergy Glass & Creative http://www.igga.org/synergy seaspray@island.net check out the latest info on Elisabeth's trip at: http://come.to/The_E-Tour ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 25 23:35:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:16:54 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: prodigy.com!YWAH36A From: YWAH36A@prodigy.com ( BOB DUCHESNEAU) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Abrasive Blasting Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:13:24, -0500 Message-ID: <199901260613.BAA10946@mime3.prodigy.com> Precedence: bulk >>I just bought a benchtop blaster to expand my horizons a bit...I blasted a few things to try it out and it works great! I was thinking I might want to do a batch of coffee mugs as "gimme" handouts for my better customers. .. I'd probably want "Wells Glassworks" and maybe a few graphics.... What is the best way to do this?? Just doing a few,cutting the resist by hand would be ok but for a few dozen that would be time consuming,not to mention worn out hands... Byron... Wells Glassworks<< For logos and complex things to be sandblasted repeatively nothing beats photo resist. You can either have the resist made from your master or make it yourself with a kit. The Raysist Co. in Vista, CA, provides this service but do a search and expect to find other companies. Last time I checked the price was about 15 cents a square inch, so crop your masters to small size or you may end up paying for a lot of extra square inches. Four to six square inches should do a coffee cup. A pressure pot sandblasting system is best for use with photo resist because they may not hold up with pressures in excess of 20 psi. Bob ____ Bob Duchesneau Mountain Meadow Stained Glass 92026 New E-mail address: bobdu@prodigy.net forget old address: ywah36a@prodigy.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 06:34:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:25:13 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!summitstudio From: Mike Peck To: BOB DUCHESNEAU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:25:24 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan26.22524.0> References: <<199901260613.BAA10946@mime3.prodigy.com>> Organization: Summit Stained Glass (http://www.summitstudio.com) Precedence: bulk Byron, I agree with Bob ... photo resist is best for small images, text and repetition. For coffee mugs, however, I have not had much luck blasting ceramic mugs. The glazing is so thin that you can go through it quickly which exposes the inner fired clay (bisque?). Then, the slightest bump will chip your image away. Look for solid glass mugs, or even metal mugs .... they'll be much more durable with a sandblasted image. Mike Peck BOB DUCHESNEAU wrote: > > >>I just bought a benchtop blaster to expand my horizons a bit...I > blasted a > few things to try it out and it works great! I was thinking I might > want to > do a batch of coffee mugs as "gimme" handouts for my better customers. > .. I'd > probably want "Wells Glassworks" and maybe a few graphics.... What is > the > best way to do this?? Just doing a few,cutting the resist by hand > would be > ok but for a few dozen that would be time consuming,not to mention > worn out > hands... > > Byron... > Wells Glassworks<< > > For logos and complex things to be sandblasted repeatively nothing > beats photo resist. You can either have the resist made from your > master or make it yourself with a kit. The Raysist Co. in Vista, CA, > provides this service but do a search and expect to find other > companies. > > Last time I checked the price was about 15 cents a square inch, so > crop your masters to small size or you may end up paying for a lot of > extra square inches. Four to six square inches should do a coffee cup. > > A pressure pot sandblasting system is best for use with photo resist > because they may not hold up with pressures in excess of 20 psi. > > Bob > > ____ > Bob Duchesneau Mountain Meadow Stained Glass 92026 > New E-mail address: bobdu@prodigy.net forget old address: > ywah36a@prodigy.com > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 07:03:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:42:34 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!summitstudio From: Mike Peck To: Carol Swann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: glass engraving Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:42:05 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan26.2425.0> References: <<199901260628.WAA00451@oceanus.island.net>> Organization: Summit Stained Glass (http://www.summitstudio.com) Precedence: bulk Carol, I was faced with this one, too. We seemed to get several calls for small intricate engraving, but our sandblasting capabilities were geared for much bigger stuff and it seemed we were always passing on some "opportunity". I looked into the Photobrasive line of products and even experimented with a couple of their test kits, but when I sat down and did the numbers on investment into all the developing equipment vs the projected income, the "opportunity" really wasn't much. You can even fax Photobrasive an image and (for a fee) they'll work up the artwork and send you fully developed mask. But, you really need a big order to make it worth your while. Don't take this wrong ... I thought the photo resists worked extremely well and there's no way you can beat them if you're cutting resists by hand. I just didn't see enough of a market to justify the expense ... might be different in your area. Photobrasive has a website at www.photobrasivesystems.com. You can ask for a catalogue and price things out for yourself. Good Luck Mike Peck Carol Swann wrote: > > Does anyone on the group do glass engraving? I get several calls a month > looking for this service, mainly for trophies, wedding glasses, awards, etc. > I'd been referring them to the local trophy place and just found out they've > been referring them to the glass studios...I'm wondering what equipment is > involved, what the learning curve on this is, and where I can get a book or > something on it. Always looking for new opportunities!! > > Thanks, > C. > > Carol Swann > Synergy Glass & Creative > http://www.igga.org/synergy > seaspray@island.net > > check out the latest info on Elisabeth's trip at: > http://come.to/The_E-Tour > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 07:27:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:27:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: uniserve.com!cpesonen From: cpesonen@uniserve.com (Cindy Pesonen) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:25:35 -0800 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Forgot to mention, Photo Abrasive in Duluth MN. 218.628.2002... The product I use is Aicello fron Japan, haven't got a # for the USA, but if you want can give for Canada. All these products you can make in house resists or have them sent out. Also there's a liguid SBX emulsion for large flat surfaces, with the same quality detail. > >Check out http://www.rayzist.com > >Great detail with photomask as a resist...and no hand cuttting! >Not the best for all, great for engravings. >It's real neat stuff. And they'll send you an info package. >Cindy >And enjoy your blaster. > > > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 07:44:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:55:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: uniserve.com!cpesonen From: cpesonen@uniserve.com (Cindy Pesonen) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: glass engraving Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:55:26 -0800 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Start up costs can be high. Requires a compressor, sandblasting equipment and like Bob said pressure pot system. Aicello can be blasted with siphon system at 30lb.psi. Also you need developing equipment for the resist and the product isn't cheap. The film resist is light sensitive and you use black and white camera ready art or halftones. It is developed and then wash out and dried. It's applied to the glass with adhesive, but you can get it already with adhesive backed, but I still do apply it myself. You can be sure to ruin a *sheet* working out the techniques prior to success. I can't seem to wash out Photo Abrasive well, the color is dust rose and hard to see. Mine is a blue and washes out well. Cindy >Does anyone on the group do glass engraving? I get several calls a month >looking for this service, mainly for trophies, wedding glasses, awards, etc. >I'd been referring them to the local trophy place and just found out they've >been referring them to the glass studios...I'm wondering what equipment is >involved, what the learning curve on this is, and where I can get a book or >something on it. Always looking for new opportunities!! > >Thanks, >C. > > > > >Carol Swann >Synergy Glass & Creative >http://www.igga.org/synergy >seaspray@island.net > >check out the latest info on Elisabeth's trip at: >http://come.to/The_E-Tour > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 08:36:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:08:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: uniserve.com!cpesonen From: cpesonen@uniserve.com (Cindy Pesonen) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting ceramics and more Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:06:20 -0800 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Hi Mike, I've done only afew ceramic mugs and it is different! The glazing is alot harder than the bisque... It was kinda like blasting flashed glass, as not to over-blast. Thought maybe vinyl cutting would be better. What I don't like is the tempered coffee mugs...wow I've had troubles with them with film resist. So many do not turn out, so I guess I should go to a thicker micron. I don't blast deep (tempered). Also I wanted to get a second blasting pot, just for engraving with film resist. Went to check out a smaller pot than the 100 lb. one I have, and they were just as much $$$. It's a real pain...when I've just freshened the pot and an engraving comes in. Also I just shake like a leaf when I get crystal to blast...grin. Cindy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 10:04:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:52:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Cindy Pesonen Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: glass engraving Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:52:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1999Jan26.1520.0> References: <> Precedence: bulk Several weeks ago the Skill Development Center where I teach purchased a laser printer/engraver. It has the capability of engraving any design on glass that can be scanned or developed through corel draw or whatever. Its pretty awesome. I felt rather deflated in terms of all the efforts I have been going through to hone my sand blasting skills. Of course the printer/engraver comes with a price tag of 28K or better. But they hope to get their money back by making trophies and awards in glass. All they have to do is put glass in the designated spot instead of paper...and no mistakes. Deflated indeed! Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 10:34:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: prodigy.com!YWAH36A From: YWAH36A@prodigy.com ( BOB DUCHESNEAU) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting ceramics and more Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:06:58, -0500 Message-ID: <199901261706.MAA10804@mime3.prodigy.com> Precedence: bulk Cindy writes, in part: >>Also I wanted to get a second blasting pot, just for engraving with film resist. Went to check out a smaller pot than the 100 lb. one I have, and they were just as much $$$.<< I have seen 50# capacity pressure pots at an import tool house called Harbor Freight for less than $100.00. That sure beats the $600.00 plus I paid for my 100# pressure pot. So......... check the discount tool houses in your area. Using two different blasting mediums on the same project can add a lot to the finished effect. If you use a fine grade of crystal garnet for the secondary blast it can be "lost" to the same cabinet that has your coarser primary blasting medium. Saves on cleanup when changing blasting media. Bob ____ Bob Duchesneau Mountain Meadow Stained Glass 92026 New E-mail address: bobdu@prodigy.net forget old address: ywah36a@prodigy.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 15:34:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:05:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: trellis.net!72867 From: "J&RinMonroe" <72867@trellis.net> To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: mosaic birdbath Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:04:03 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan26.1343.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BE4956.4212DC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everyone who responded to my grout questions and all the = helpful advice-my daughter used a wood base that wasn't sealed or marine = grade which was probably the problem. =20 I would like to graduate from stain glass stepping stones to doing the = interior of a cement birdbath in mosaic. The only book I have has = rather confusing directions calling for a direct and indirect method of = laying out the design. Has anyone ever done one of these-any advice = would be appreciated. Thanks, Roseanne ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BE4956.4212DC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks to everyone who responded to = my grout=20 questions and all the helpful advice-my daughter used a wood base that = wasn't=20 sealed or marine grade which was probably the problem. =

I would like to graduate from stain = glass=20 stepping stones to doing the interior of a cement birdbath in=20 mosaic. The only book I have has rather confusing directions = calling for a=20 direct and indirect method of laying out the design. Has = anyone ever=20 done one of these-any advice would be appreciated. = Thanks, =20 Roseanne

------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BE4956.4212DC60-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 18:35:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:14:09 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: eatumup.com!byronwells From: byronwells@eatumup.com (Byron Wells) To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:22:11 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan26.142211.0> Precedence: bulk Thanks Larry... I just bought thier new book they put out...It's well worth the money... Lotsa good info... Byron... Wells Glassworks -----Original Message----- From: Larry Goga To: Byron Wells Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 4:59 AM Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting >Check with Professional Glass Consultants (Norm and Ruth Dobbins) in Santa >Fe, New Mexico. I took a seminar at their place about a year ago. I know >they have the capabilities to make computer pre-cut stencils (not photo >resisit) and if memory serves me right, it was cheaper than photo resist. > >Phone: 505-473-9203 >Fax: 505-473-9218 >web: www.etchmaster.com > >Good luck. > >Larry > > >>Hey All... >> >>I just bought a benchtop blaster to expand my horizons a bit...I blasted a >>few things to try it out and it works great! I was thinking I might want to >>do a batch of coffee mugs as "gimme" handouts for my better customers... I'd >>probably want "Wells Glassworks" and maybe a few graphics.... What is the >>best way to do this?? Just doing a few,cutting the resist by hand would be >>ok but for a few dozen that would be time consuming,not to mention worn out >>hands... >> >>Byron... >>Wells Glassworks >> >>---- >>For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >>To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >>Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 19:08:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:27:58 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: eatumup.com!byronwells From: byronwells@eatumup.com (Byron Wells) To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:36:03 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan26.14363.0> Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: BOB DUCHESNEAU To: glass@bungi.com Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 7:42 PM Subject: Abrasive Blasting Thanks Bob... I'll check out Razist... I've also got a pressure blaster I can use for them... I bought it a couple years ago and just never seemed to get around to getting a box to use it in.. > >For logos and complex things to be sandblasted repeatively nothing >beats photo resist. You can either have the resist made from your >master or make it yourself with a kit. The Raysist Co. in Vista, CA, >provides this service but do a search and expect to find other >companies. > >Last time I checked the price was about 15 cents a square inch, so >crop your masters to small size or you may end up paying for a lot of >extra square inches. Four to six square inches should do a coffee cup. > > >A pressure pot sandblasting system is best for use with photo resist >because they may not hold up with pressures in excess of 20 psi. > >Bob > >____ >Bob Duchesneau Mountain Meadow Stained Glass 92026 >New E-mail address: bobdu@prodigy.net forget old address: >ywah36a@prodigy.com > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 20:08:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:47:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: hotmail.com!mrsdesigns From: "Michele Spruill" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Stained Glass in Italy Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:47:20 PST Message-ID: <1999Jan27.34720.0> Precedence: bulk Hello all- I'm planning a trip to Rome and Florence later this year. I plan to visit many galleries and buildings while there. Are there any particular stained glass works that are worth seeking out? I'm sure there's plenty to see, but most of my art history books note gothic stained glass in France. Thanks, Michele ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jan 26 21:07:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:46:23 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ior.com!glshorse From: Elizabeth Arakelian To: Byron Wells Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:27:37 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.122737.0> References: <<1999Jan26.142211.0>> Organization: Elizabeth Arakelian Precedence: bulk B > > > >>Hey All... > >> > >>I just bought a benchtop blaster to expand my horizons a bit...I blasted a > >>few things to try it out and it works great! I was thinking I might want > to > >>do a batch of coffee mugs as "gimme" handouts for my better customers... > I'd > >>probably want "Wells Glassworks" and maybe a few graphics.... What is the > >>best way to do this?? Just doing a few,cutting the resist by hand would be > >>ok but for a few dozen that would be time consuming,not to mention worn > out > >>hands... > >> > >>Byron... > >>Wells Glassworks > >> > >>---- > > a dumb question: how exactly does sandblasting work? I know how etching creams work, put them over the design and the exposed glass is etched away...but how does it work with sandblasting? My guess is a stream of high pressure sand squirting thru a pattern like the etching patterns wears away the glass in the same way? But how do they get things like veins in leaves and such? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 06:44:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:08:37 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: InfoAve.Net!ctombro From: Carol Tombro To: Michele Spruill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Stained Glass in Italy Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:55:04 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.0554.0> References: <<1999Jan27.34720.0@[207.126.97.2]>> Organization: SBWSA Precedence: bulk Michele, The book "Cortona - City of Art" might be helpful. Cortona is about 45 minutes from Florence and well worth the side trip imho. It's more or less a guide to churches and museums, written by Carmelita Setteposte and Mario Belardi. Carol T Michele Spruill wrote: > Hello all- > > I'm planning a trip to Rome and Florence later this year. I plan to > visit many galleries and buildings while there. Are there any > particular stained glass works that are worth seeking out? I'm sure > there's plenty to see, but most of my art history books note gothic > stained glass in France. > > Thanks, Michele > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 07:44:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:24:41 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: mosaic birdbath Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:22:28 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.52228.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by "J&RinMonroe" >I would like to graduate from stain glass stepping stones to doing the =3D= interior of a cement birdbath in mosaic. The only book I have has =3D rather confusing directions calling for a direct and indirect method of = =3D laying out the design. Has anyone ever done one of these-any advice =3D would be appreciated. < I make these for sale. I've used both cement and terra cotta bases. I use the direct method of laying out the design inside the birdbath bowl. That is, I just draw freehand the design using pencil. Then go straight to glueing in the mosaic pieces. Then grout. Then waterproof. If you are not comfortable drawing freehand, then design your pattern on a piece of paper, put some carbon paper behind it, and then trace it onto the birdbath's bowl. Christie A. Wood Art Glass Ensembles, 4013 Skippack Pike, Bldg B, P.O. Box 903, Skippack, PA 19474-0903 http://www.igga.org/wood/ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 08:12:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:24:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: glass mosaic tiles-grout Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.52218.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by "J&RinMonroe" >Does anyone out there do mosaics using the little glass tessare tiles? = =3D I do glass mosaics and use cement for the grout. My daughter recently =3D= tried doing mosaics with the tessare and used some kind of latex tile =3D= grout and the grout cracked. Any recommendations on a kind of grout =3D that won't crack? Is there anything you can buy at your local home =3D improvement store? Thanks in advance.< I use glass tiles which I hand-cut. But I do quite a lot of mosaic work.= I have used 2 different glues...GE Silicon II clear and Red Devil, both of which you can purchase at your local home improvement store. Both bond glass to almost anything dry and clean. As for the grout, I normally use non-sanded bathroom tile grout, which I also purchase at the home improvement store. Non-sanded for works in which the gap between the pieces of glass tessare is 1/8" or less. I use sanded tile grout for works with larger gaps. Do not get the grout too soupy or it will tend to crack when drying. The consistency of toothpaste is good. On one very large mosaic work I completely did away with the grout, and just used the Red Devil as filler between the tiles. To see a photo of this mosaic work, go to my web site at http://www.igga.org/wood/ and it's the 5th photo in. It's titled "Children's Hospital of Philadelphia". All stained glass mosaic pieces put together with Red Devil and no grout. Christie A. Wood Art Glass Ensembles, 4013 Skippack Pike, Bldg B, P.O. Box 903, Skippack, PA 19474-0903 http://www.igga.org/wood/ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 08:13:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:03:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Witchdoc3 From: Witchdoc3@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: beginner tools Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:58:43 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan27.155843.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/21/99 7:31:16 PM, PDRUSS@aol.com wrote: >Someone asked me today if there was a web site for beginners in Stained Glass. >They were interested in what tools they needed for getting started. > >We have so many tools and gadgets I don't remember what we started with. > >Dianne "How to Do Stained Glass" by Randy Wardell: http://www.thestorefinder.com/wardell.html Someone else had asked about the history of stained glass; here's a concise one: http://www.thestorefinder.com/history/history.html I just lo-o-o-o-ove the Web! Sparks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 09:25:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:00:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: uniserve.com!cpesonen From: cpesonen@uniserve.com (Cindy Pesonen) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:59:50 -0800 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Hi Elizabeth, I don't think that's a dumb question at all and I'm sure you'll get alot of replies. Here's my 2 cents: Exposing glass to a mixture of; air (under pressure) and a abrasive *grit* material (and there are many types of abrasive materials) will erode glass like etching cream (but etching creams on the market really don't eat up the glass like sand blasting, only marr the surface.) Stenciling out a pattern by masking (and also there's many different masking materials) will protect different areas that you don't want to be eroded. Like the stencils used for etching creams. The neat *thing* about blasting is, the techniques that can be learnt. 1)etchings can be shaded, producing varies shades from solid white to clear. And can take on the look of shaded air brushing. Etchings are not done to any real depth. 2)engravings are alot like etching but you can feel the edge of the design eroded into the glass...you start to get more depth in the design as it lets in more light around the edges. 3)carvings are done by even deeper cuts into the glass, and they can be single staged or multi staged and this can be were you have seen more elements of a design characterized. This process is way more complicated and that's time to learn. 4)sculpturing is alot like multi staged carving, but you learn to shape out a design as it looks in real life...like a flower. It takes even more knowledge of understanding and learning. Hope that gives you abit more understanding of sandblasting. I think it was a great question because I find alot people have no idea of the difficulties in learning and when they think "sandblasting" they think it's really nothing at all. Cindy:) PS...a purple Barney would be cute, grin! ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 09:55:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:17:10 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: pacifier.com!ptap From: Pamela Burns-Tappan To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Chicago Studios Please Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:15:33 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.11533.0> Organization: Stained Glass Artists/Moswood Mountain Limited Precedence: bulk Hi all, I am searching for Chicago studios that teach stained glass. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Pam -- ********************************* Pamela Burns-Tappan Executive Director The Stained Glass Artists http://fly.to/The_Stained_Glass_Artists Moswood Mountain Limited http://come.to/moswood_mountain_limited http://start.at/MML_Web_Design1 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 10:28:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:10:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: infinet.com!glasscat From: Carolyn Noel To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Pattern Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:09:12 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.7912.0> Organization: The Stained Glass Place Precedence: bulk Was wondering if anyone knew of any patterns that had to do with skydiving? Can't find anything in my library, but figured someone out there could help me. Thanks in advance. Carolyn ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 12:14:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:43:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: compuserve.com!103462.2164 From: Ray <103462.2164@compuserve.com> To: Pamela Burns-Tappan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Chicago Studios Please Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:40:42 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.94042.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by Pamela Burns-Tappan >I am searching for Chicago studios that teach stained glass. Any help will be appreciated. < Greetings Pamela: Delta Stained Glass in Wheeling, Illinois. Ask for Pat 847-541-4526= From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 14:58:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:08:01 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Mar333Wood From: Mar333Wood@aol.com To: glasscat@infinet.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Pattern Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:59:05 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan27.21595.0> Precedence: bulk Hi Carolyn, I too had trouble finding skydiving patterns so I made one up for a commission finished not long ago for the Temple Skydiving Club. I used their logo, a parachute, and the State of Texas. If you are interested in seeing the picture, I will be glad to e-mail it to you personally. Just let me know. Marti WOODMAR Custom Stained Glass Stained Glass Artists Killeen Civic Art Guild ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 18:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:57:46 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: eudoramail.com!admarket From: Webmaster To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Advertisement: New Pets Directory Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:56:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <419.436187.87172859admarket@eudoramail.com> Precedence: bulk Visit http//www.1st-media.com/pets to enter your directory entry. If a category/sub-category you would like is missing please let us know. Add your name to our What's New Mailing List. Every so often we send updates by email telling people what's new in our directory. 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Only if you visit our site and add your email address to our what's new list will you receive a future mailing. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 20:14:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:11:03 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: eatumup.com!byronwells From: byronwells@eatumup.com (Byron Wells) To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:19:04 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.15194.0> Precedence: bulk Hi Elizabeth... No such thing as a dumb question as far as I know... We can all learn something from each other...I dont know of anyone who actually does 'know it all'....Anyway Cindy already did a great job of explaining so the only thing I will add is a great book suggestion if your interested... I just bout the new Norm and Ruth Dobbins book called "Etched Glass,Techniques and Designs" and it has all the info a beginner at blasting could possibly want or need including some starter paterns and step by step techniques for cream etching,blast etching,shading,carving and much more.....Well worth the few dollars! Byron... Wells Glassworks -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Arakelian To: Byron Wells Cc: glass@bungi.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question > >a dumb question: how exactly does sandblasting work? I know how etching >creams work, put them over the design and the exposed glass is etched >away...but how does it work with sandblasting? My guess is a stream of >high pressure sand squirting thru a pattern like the etching patterns >wears away the glass in the same way? But how do they get things like >veins in leaves and such? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 21:53:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:38:02 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: hotmail.com!katmath From: "Kathy Mather" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: pattern Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:37:33 PST Message-ID: <1999Jan28.43733.0> Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I need to pick your collective brains. I need to do a saxophone for a friend of mine, does anyone know if there is such a pattern around. I have tried to draw one but you would not believe what it comes out looking like. Thanks for any help you folks can give me. Kathy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 27 23:03:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:00:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: "glass bungi com" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Conure Pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:02:32 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.18232.0> Precedence: bulk I think I have sent if to every one who has asked. You should have received it by now (except maybe our friends in Canada .... the dog sled may have be diverted due to lack of snow :-) ) If I missed anybody or if somebody else wants a copy email me with your snail mail address. No charge ... happy to help. Patrick Roses and Rainbows ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 00:49:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:13:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: pacifier.com!ptap From: Pamela Burns-Tappan To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Restoration Process Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:09:44 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan27.15944.0> Organization: Stained Glass Artists/Moswood Mountain Limited Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have posed this question to Julie Sloan and thought I would ask some of you as well. Here is the question: I have had an inquiry about the Koln Cathedral and the restorative process of the glass painting. Do you know of a product called "cyclododecan" in restoring fragile glass paint? A paper was written on this at the Koln Cathedral in Germany. Any info on this paper or any reference books that discuss this method? I have searched till I can search no more! I've even spent hours in the Koln Library searching for information on the Cathedral at least, to no avail. Any help would sure be appreciated and a big thanks! Pam -- ********************************* Pamela Burns-Tappan Executive Director The Stained Glass Artists http://fly.to/The_Stained_Glass_Artists Moswood Mountain Limited http://come.to/moswood_mountain_limited http://start.at/MML_Web_Design1 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 06:17:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 05:36:48 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Kath8284 From: Kath8284@aol.com To: byronwells@eatumup.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:34:49 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan28.133449.0> Precedence: bulk Hi Byron, Is this a new book? I looked in my Delphi Catalog and there are 2 books by Norm Dobbins.......Glass Etching- Surface Techniques and Designs and there is Glass Etching 2- Carving Techniques and Designs. I have both on my order list. I have a blasting cabinet (siphon method at this time) and I am interested in learning to use it. Should I buy both book or is one better than the other for a beginner. Any advise that anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kathy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 06:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 05:49:03 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: mail.island.net!seaspray From: seaspray@mail.island.net (Carol Swann) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: saxophone pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 05:47:52 -0800 Message-ID: <199901281347.FAA22429@oceanus.island.net> Precedence: bulk >Hi folks, > I need to pick your collective brains. I need to do a saxophone for a >friend of mine, does anyone know if there is such a pattern around. I >have tried to draw one but you would not believe what it comes out >looking like. > Thanks for any help you folks can give me. > Kathy Like a trumpet having a bad tube day? Seriously, get yourself a photo from the library or a jazz album cover, trace it, enlarge it or whatever and you'll probably be okay. Once you've got the overall shape correct, you can simplify for cut lines as needed. C. Carol Swann Synergy Glass & Creative http://www.igga.org/synergy seaspray@island.net check out the latest info on Elisabeth's trip at: http://come.to/The_E-Tour ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 07:22:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:47:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: erols.com!deethom From: Dee Thompson To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: creating a pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990128095739.0075003c@pop.erols.com> Precedence: bulk Sometimes if I need a pattern that I can't do on my own...(I don't have the foggiest what a saxaphone looks like in detail!) I go to a source for that topic. A music store, in this case. Look for magazines and sheet music that have pictures of saxaphones on then. You can trace the outline, enlarge and add details as you wish. If you have lots of buttons sticking out of the instrument, maybe you can add the 5 music lines through the background to catch and shorten cut lines. Dee ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 08:17:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:35:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Luki314 From: Luki314@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Looking for a pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:33:54 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan28.153354.0> Precedence: bulk Hello, Has anyone seen or does anyone have a pattern of a (male) lion, a real masc.- looking guy with a big mane? I have tried fruitlessly to draw one. Thanks. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 09:17:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:01:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: home.net!esavad From: "M. Savad" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: cutter's mate Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.7154.0> Precedence: bulk does anyone know the address for the cutter's mate? the one i have is now bad. ---Mike Savad -- Mike's Stained Glass - Tips Tricks Photos http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141 11-28-98 New Pages Added: 37 New Links in 5 Categories, A sneak preview of the Brilliance Award, A Foiling FAQ, and A Look at Sky City ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 10:45:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:29:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: vdot.net!shyguy From: Bob the Dinosaur To: Candy Thurman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Bullseye glass Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:27:26 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.52726.0> References: <<199901250325.UAA29680@mantis.privatei.com>> Precedence: bulk Dear Bungi's - this is Mrs. Shyguy. I am so sorry to inform you but Bob "Shyguy" died suddenly on Sunday. Thank you for the enjoyment he got from being a part of your group. Goodbye! Candy Thurman wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone know if Bullseye has an URL yet? Couldn't find a reference to it > anywhere.. > > Candy > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 11:14:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:41:52 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ComCAT.COM!suzy From: "suzy@comcat.com" To: "glass bungi line" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Looking for a pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:34:26 -0500 Message-ID: <199901281835.NAA22956@uz.ComCAT.COM> Precedence: bulk 1/28/99 10:33 AM Luki314@aol.com Luki314@aol.com >Hello, Has anyone seen or does anyone have a pattern of a (male) lion, a >real >masc.- looking guy with a big mane? I have tried fruitlessly to draw one. >Thanks. "Reflections by Alee", Alee Soderman, page 47. Lots of testosterone! Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 12:14:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:49:19 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: mail.island.net!seaspray From: seaspray@mail.island.net (Carol Swann) To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Looking for a pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:48:11 -0800 Message-ID: <199901281948.LAA20307@oceanus.island.net> Precedence: bulk Try going to the kids' section of your local library. I know I've suggested this before...I find it a wonderful source of simply drawn images from which I can create my own. C. Carol Swann Synergy Glass & Creative http://www.igga.org/synergy seaspray@island.net check out the latest info on Elisabeth's trip at: http://come.to/The_E-Tour ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 12:45:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:31:52 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Mosfunland From: Mosfunland@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Bob/Shyguy Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:21:49 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan28.202149.0> Precedence: bulk I met Bob on the Warner Criv trip to the mountains of west PA.... He provided so much warmth, and humor, and full of information too! I met him again this summer back at Warners again, full of laughs and stories and purchases!!!! I just feel such a loss of a truly nice guy, he is truly missed here in my little world, and thanks to the glass, I was able to meet him and laugh with him. Maureen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 13:14:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:36:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Bob the Dinosaur Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:45:30 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.84530.0> References: <<1999Jan28.52726.0>> Precedence: bulk I so sad, and will really miss Bob. Does anyone have his wife's name and snail mail address, so that I can send her a *real* card? I didn't even know Bobs real last name. Tulsa Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 13:44:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:12:09 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: fair.net!andor From: "Linda Letscher" To: "bungi.com" Subject: Bob/Shyguy Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:09:41 -0500 Message-ID: <199901282110.QAA04940@smtp.america.net> Precedence: bulk I am relatively new to this list, but hearing that Bob/Shyguy died Sunday just made me so sad. I am a widow and my value of life is far greater now after having someone I love dearly, die. My heart goes out to his family. I have been on the internet for 4 years and this is the first time that someone from my internet family has died. Linda Jo ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 14:43:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:25:25 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: GSA-ORSP.CROWN.NWU.EDU!kaye From: "Kaye Sodt" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Bob/Shyguy Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:58:59 CST 6CDT Message-ID: <199901282159.PAA20576@relay.acns.nwu.edu> Organization: GSA-ORSP Precedence: bulk I never had the pleasure of meeting him, but was none-the- less stunned by the news. It's amazing how "involved" we can be with people we know only from a mailing list. His warmth, humor and giving nature came through in his posts, and I know I'll miss his contributions. Kaye I met Bob on the Warner Criv trip to the mountains of west PA.... He provided so much warmth, and humor, and full of information too! I met him again this summer back at Warners again, full of laughs and stories and purchases!!!! I just feel such a loss of a truly nice guy, he is truly missed here in my little world, and thanks to the glass, I was able to meet him and laugh with him. Maureen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 15:13:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:45:03 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: netbridge.net!balloch From: Shirley Balloch To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Stained Glass Email Forum Inquiry Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:48:59 -0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.64859.0> References: <<199901281835.NAA01433@ns3.recycle.net>> Organization: Maiden Concepts Precedence: bulk If you all got this, sorry for the duplication. Anil Bhatnagar wrote: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > As a subscriber to the House of Glass Email Forum > you receive e-mail messages which are submitted to the > Stained Glass forum. > The following inquiry/message was made to the forum. > > If this message is of no interest to you, simply disregard it > > ---START OF MESSAGE----------------------- > > RE: Stained glass - schools > Anil Bhatnagar (abhatna@hotmail.com) sent the following message to this forum... > > I am looking for a reputed school or training centre where I can learn the craft in Stained glass in vaious applications. Preferred area are Sweden, or Washington DC, New York or Indianapolis in the United States. If not feasible in these areas, I will consider other areas as well. I will be thankful to any one providing this information Thanking you Anil Bhatnagar > > ---END OF MESSAGE---------------- > > THANK YOU FOR USING House of Glass !!! > > http://www.fiberglass.com/fiberglass > > Contact George or Paul with any questions regarding > the services provided by House of Glass > Tel. 519-767-2913 Email. sales@recycle.net > > VALUE ADDED SERVICES AVAILABLE > For more information on House of Glass 's Services, > see http://www.cooksmill.com/cooksmill/glass/web/index.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- x�>"3� ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 15:46:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:54:07 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!CncptThnkr From: CncptThnkr@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Bio #88 Blake Young Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:48:19 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan28.224819.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/23/99 1:04:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, pkelly@n-link.com writes: > 'IA' (cncptthnkr) offered the dubious wisdom of citing criminal activity in > a bio. While this is TEMPTING, and would no doubt make for a more exciting > read... alas, I find myself unequipped for the challenge. > IA... rest assured that I'm working on it! (not!) I think I'll knock over > a glass truck... cleverly disguised as Patrick! (wearing a tutu). THAT > should allow me bungi bragging rights for the next bio update. (probably > from behind bars, teaching stained glass in the local pokey) Hey Blake, Oooppppssss.....was only trying to help. Is criminal activity a bad thing to mention? I think you have a wonderful criminal mind, keep up the good work. In prison they don't let you work with real glass, so think twice before you commit the crime of the century. Any reason I can't look at your www? Using Microsoft Internet Explorer, will try Netscape when I remember where it is hidden on the hard drive. IA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 16:08:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:03:38 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: pop3.nildram.co.uk!glass From: "Toby" To: Bob the Dinosaur Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Bob Shyguy Summary: Authenticated sender is Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:50:56 +0000 Message-ID: <199901282301.XAA04987@saturn.nildram.co.uk> Precedence: bulk Dear "Mrs. Shyguy" How I wish I knew your first name! I too remember well Bob's sincerity, warmth and knowledge over the years in the Bungi Group. Naturally, I had also hoped that he would be one of the many people I would meet on my forthcoming visit to USA. I am immensely saddened by his death and would like to add my own voice, as well as that from Bungi colleagues here in Europe. I don't know if you yourself are a stained glass devotee, but hope that you will dip into Bungi, where we will always remember Bob with affection and all of us will now be thinking of YOU during this very difficult period. My heartfelt condolences Elisabeth Roberg of North Lights Stained Glass in United Kingdom > Dear Bungi's - this is Mrs. Shyguy. I am so sorry to inform you but Bob > "Shyguy" died suddenly on Sunday. Thank you for the enjoyment he got > from being a part of your group. Goodbye! > ---- As my grandmother said "...there is only nobility of mind" North Lights Stained Glass - homepage http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/kris/northlights/index.htm ---- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 16:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:55:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: compuserve.com!103462.2164 From: Ray <103462.2164@compuserve.com> To: Ray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Cut Short Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.135440.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by Ray >Greetings Pamela: Delta Stained Glass in Wheeling, Illinois. Ask for Pat 847-541-4526= =3D< Bungi sysop, do you know why my reply get cut short ? Did I do somethin= g wrong ? Thanks, Ray Creator's Stained Glass Mfg. Cutter's Mate = http://www.rscreations.com/csglass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 16:43:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:21:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Kath8284@aol.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:19:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1999Jan28.81933.0> References: <<1999Jan28.133449.0>> Precedence: bulk Hi Kathy: You asked about Norm Dobbin's book on etching. I would suggest that rather than the books, you may want to invest in his videos. They do a really great job demonstrating exactly what he is talking about. Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 17:14:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:35:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Kathy Mather Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: pattern Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:35:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1999Jan28.8355.0> References: <<1999Jan28.43733.0>> Precedence: bulk Kathy: There is a 'stylized' saxophone in one of the Judy Miller books. I will look for it and get back to you. Peggy On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Kathy Mather wrote: > Hi folks, > I need to pick your collective brains. I need to do a saxophone for a > friend of mine, does anyone know if there is such a pattern around. I > have tried to draw one but you would not believe what it comes out > looking like. > Thanks for any help you folks can give me. > Kathy > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 17:33:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:48:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!Kath8284 From: Kath8284@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Abrasive Blasting.......Dobbin's Video's Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:45:02 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan29.0452.0> Precedence: bulk I have looked throught some of my catalogs and have not found any info on the video's. Could someone please let me know how I can get the info about these so I can consider ordering them. Thanks for all the help!! Kathy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 18:13:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:36:59 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: webtv.net!stainglasborzoi From: stainglasborzoi@webtv.net (GLORIA DRAG) To: shyguy@vdot.net (Bob the Dinosaur), glass@bungi.com Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Subject: We willmiss you Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:35:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1999Jan28.153528.0> References: <> Precedence: bulk Mrs. Shyguy, Our condolences.. I and my family will miss the warm informative replies Bob had given to the members of Bungi. To me, he will be missed.. He often replied information to many lines.. Thank you Bob, Gloria ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 18:41:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:13:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: eatumup.com!byronwells From: byronwells@eatumup.com (Byron Wells) To: , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:21:19 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.142119.0> Precedence: bulk Yes,according to the glass mags etc it's supposed to be thier latest book... I dont have the others so I cant tell you which would be better... I can tell you tho that after a couple nights reading this one I did a couple quick projects with no problem... Byron.. Wells Glassworks -----Original Message----- From: Kath8284@aol.com To: byronwells@eatumup.com ; glass@bungi.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting/dumb question >Hi Byron, > > Is this a new book? I looked in my Delphi Catalog and there are 2 books >by Norm Dobbins.......Glass Etching- Surface Techniques and Designs and >there is Glass Etching 2- Carving Techniques and Designs. I have both on my >order list. I have a blasting cabinet (siphon method at this time) and I am >interested in learning to use it. Should I buy both book or is one better >than the other for a beginner. > > Any advise that anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Kathy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 19:11:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:20:39 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: compuserve.com!103462.2164 From: Ray <103462.2164@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:esavad@home.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: cutter's mate Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.16203.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by INTERNET:esavad@home.net >mainly i need the web page, i'm updating my links page, and the address i have is bad. eventually i'll probably wind up with one, one way or another. this is the address i have http://www.aboutrtown.com/~rs/csglass/< Greetings: Glad to have the link, my friend. Your site is excellent ! Well thought out. My designer changed the address to an easier, shorter one. This is the new address for Creator's Stained Glass Mfr. Cutter's Mat= e. http://www.rscreations.com/csglass Give me an e-mail when you arrive. = Thanks again, Ray ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 19:47:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:30:20 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!vlg From: "Vincent LaGreca" To: , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Abrasive Blasting.......Dobbin's Video's Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:29:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.172931.0> Precedence: bulk I have all of his tapes and his books including his latest. They are worth owning. Norms web site is http://www.etchmaster.com/ Here you will find all the necessary ordering and contact info. Ciao Vic -----Original Message----- From: Kath8284@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 8:59 PM Subject: Abrasive Blasting.......Dobbin's Video's > I have looked throught some of my catalogs and have not found any info on >the video's. Could someone please let me know how I can get the info about >these so I can consider ordering them. > >Thanks for all the help!! > >Kathy >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 20:12:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:31:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ipa.net!gecko From: "Blake, Wayne, & Susan" To: "Bungi" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: quick question re: came shears Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:33:24 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.153324.0> Precedence: bulk I'm just curious as to what others do in regards to cutting patterns for lead came. I've been using a regular pair of scissors, and doing two cuts... trying to cut out about 1/16th of an inch. Is this what most people have success with? It seems so labor intensive, that I would imagine there's got to be an easier way. I've heard of came shears, but haven't found any in the only glass store around. (Hobby Lobby... ain't that the saddest thing you've ever heard?!) I'm thinking of ordering a pair from Delphi, but decided to get a little quick feedback first. Are they helpful? Is it a one size fit's all kind of thing? Or will I need to buy a pair for every type size H came I'm using? Blake :-) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 20:52:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:12:07 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: juno.com!jroey From: jerri m Roey To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: We willmiss you Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:46:17 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.174617.0> References: <>> Precedence: bulk I thought it must sound funny, that I'm saddened over the loss of someone I didn't even know, but I'm so glad to read you folks are feeling it too. I enjoyed Bob's posts very much, on and off list. If anyone has his wife's address, I'd like to send a *real* card too. Jerri On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:35:28 -0500 (EST) stainglasborzoi@webtv.net (GLORIA DRAG) writes: >Mrs. Shyguy, >Our condolences.. I and my family will miss the warm informative >replies Bob had given to the members of Bungi. To me, he will be >missed.. He often replied information to many lines.. >Thank you Bob, >Gloria > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 21:05:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:16:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ghostman.com!candy From: "Candy Thurman" To: "glass@bungi.com" , "Wayne Parks" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Bob the Dinosaur Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 21:15:04 Message-ID: <199901290415.VAA10070@mantis.privatei.com> Precedence: bulk Wayne, & everyone... > Hi, > does anyone know if Bullseye has an URL yet? Couldn't find a reference to it > anywhere.. > > Candy > > ---- No, that's the first post I've ever made.. I think the poor woman just wanted to tell everyone and picked mine randomly.. I never met him, but will still miss him, after reading all you folks' condolences... You know, she may not be very computer literate and may not even be able to 'get' the messages.... is it possible we should give names and addresses to those we email most? Candy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 21:48:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:14:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: home.com!kristc From: "Kris" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: We willmiss you Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:14:05 -0500 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.19145.0> Precedence: bulk Just because we didn't meet face to face doesn't mean we didn't know him. It doesn't sound funny at all to be sad. I still can't quite believe it myself, that I'm not going to be reading his posts any more. My heart goes out to his wife and family. This must be very hard for them. He's going to be missed by a lot of people. Kris >I thought it must sound funny, that I'm saddened over the loss of someone >I didn't even know, but I'm so glad to read you folks are feeling it too. > I enjoyed Bob's posts very much, on and off list. If anyone has his >wife's address, I'd like to send a *real* card too. > >Jerri ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 22:02:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:30:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: aol.com!PDRUSS From: PDRUSS@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Bob the Dinosaur Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:26:30 EST Message-ID: <1999Jan29.52630.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 1/29/99 12:06:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, candy@ghostman.com writes: << > I'm so very sorry. ~~~~~~~~ I have thought about this for several years since I first got online. What would happen if something happened to me? Would my cyber friends know or care? I hope so. I told my husband last year (when I had my operation to remove an ovarian cyst) what to do with my web site and mailing lists, if something happened to me. I just want everyone to know, that even if I don't post much here, I have really enjoyed reading all your post and appreciate all the great info on glass. I will miss Bob too. And I'll say a prayer for his family. Dianne Jacksonville, FL ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 28 22:21:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:07:03 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: n-link.com!pkelly From: "Pat Kelly" To: , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Looking for a pattern Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:08:29 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.18829.0> Precedence: bulk Hello Luki314, caught ya. How about a bio. Here's the deal you send me your bio for posting and I'll check my thousand or so patterns for a macho lion. -----Original Message----- From: Luki314@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:31 AM Subject: Looking for a pattern >Hello, Has anyone seen or does anyone have a pattern of a (male) lion, a real >masc.- looking guy with a big mane? I have tried fruitlessly to draw one. >Thanks. >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 29 00:26:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:41:54 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: tm.net.my!shakeel From: "Shakeel Abedi" To: "Bungi Group" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: To BOB SHYGUY with LOVE Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:58:31 +0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan29.235831.0> Precedence: bulk Dear Mrs Bob Shyguy Bob has passed away. To a better place, who knows. But one thing is certain. It will be a better place now that he is there. As he made this world of ours a better place while he was here. At least to me. At least to the group of Bungi. Bob the Dinosaur, Bob, where ever you have gone, our love, our regards go with you. Dear Ma'm, accept our condolences. Your husband was a great man, a good man, and who better than you will know how lovable he was. And lovable he will always be. Love and regards, Shakeel Abedi shakeel@tm.net.my Shakeel Abedi Rainbow Stained Glass 104, Jalan Mersing 86000 Kluang Malaysia Tel: +607-7722212, 7729489 Fax: +607-7733313 -----Original Message----- From: Bob the Dinosaur To: Candy Thurman Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 3:20 AM Subject: Re: Bullseye glass >Dear Bungi's - this is Mrs. Shyguy. I am so sorry to inform you but Bob >"Shyguy" died suddenly on Sunday. Thank you for the enjoyment he got >from being a part of your group. Goodbye! > >Candy Thurman wrote: >> >> Hi, >> does anyone know if Bullseye has an URL yet? Couldn't find a reference to it >> anywhere.. >> >> Candy >> >> ---- >> For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >> To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >> Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 29 00:59:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:16:52 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: tm.net.my!shakeel From: "Shakeel Abedi" To: "Bungi Group" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Bob the Dinosaur's Bio Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:24:55 +0800 Message-ID: <1999Jan30.02455.0> Precedence: bulk Pat, Is it possible for you to trace Bob's bio and re-post it on Bungi. Many of us have read his mail, on and off bungi, and many may not have read his bio. Just a thought. Regards Shakeel Abedi shakeel@tm.net.my Shakeel Abedi Rainbow Stained Glass 104, Jalan Mersing 86000 Kluang Malaysia Tel: +607-7722212, 7729489 Fax: +607-7733313 -----Original Message----- From: Pat Kelly To: Luki314@aol.com ; glass@bungi.com Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Looking for a pattern >Hello Luki314, caught ya. How about a bio. Here's the deal you send me your >bio for posting and I'll check my thousand or so patterns for a macho lion. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Luki314@aol.com >To: glass@bungi.com >Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:31 AM >Subject: Looking for a pattern > > >>Hello, Has anyone seen or does anyone have a pattern of a (male) lion, a >real >>masc.- looking guy with a big mane? I have tried fruitlessly to draw one. >>Thanks. >>---- >>For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >>To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >>Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass >> > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 29 01:29:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:53:29 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #9 built 1998-Oct-12) X-Path: ictc.com!bankers From: "Dale Bentley" To: "Blake, Wayne, & Susan" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: quick question re: came shears Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:50:04 -0600 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.20504.0> Precedence: bulk Blake- I have used the old came shears and a pair for copper foil too. They had regular scissors handles on them.... didn't cut to well, and the paper ripped and jammed..... they needed to be babied along taking only short cuts... and using only the part of the blade closest to the handle.... then I found the new "James Easy Cut" pattern shears. They make one for foil, and one for lead (you only need one of each) I don't have the lead one yet.... as I do more lamps. Anyway I LOVE the foil shears... it has a unique spring loaded handle that has an adjustable tension setting, and because the handle is below the paper, it doesn't jam or rip the pattern. I paid 14.95 retail.... I am sure you can find them elsewhere cheaper. Hope that helps! Dale Bentley -----Original Message----- From: Blake, Wayne, & Susan To: Bungi Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:31 PM Subject: quick question re: came shears >I'm just curious as to what others do in regards to cutting patterns for >lead came. > >I've been using a regular pair of scissors, and doing two cuts... trying to >cut out about 1/16th of an inch. >Is this what most people have success with? It seems so labor intensive, >that I would imagine there's got to be an easier way. I've heard of came >shears, but haven't found any in the only glass store around. (Hobby >Lobby... ain't that the saddest thing you've ever heard?!) > >I'm thinking of ordering a pair from Delphi, but decided to get a little >quick feedback first. >Are they helpful? >Is it a one size fit's all kind of thing? 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