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subscribe weaver51@teleport.com

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[In the message entitled "subscribe" on Nov  2, 16:04, Elaine Lea Rubin writes:]
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> subscribe weaver51@teleport.com
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I've already subscribed that address.  Did you not want it done yet?
?
Glenna


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-- [ From: Elaine & Howard Rubin * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Hello to you all. This is a test to see if the post and any other ones come
back to me. There seems to be a slow down in incoming posts from the glass
group... Howard

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[In the message entitled "am I missing anything???" on Nov 11, 22:31, Elaine & Howard Rubin writes:]
> -- [ From: Elaine & Howard Rubin * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
> 
> Hello to you all. This is a test to see if the post and any other ones come
> back to me. There seems to be a slow down in incoming posts from the glass
> group... Howard

I got your post ok.  The list has slowed done somewhat.  Everyone must
be doing other things with their time.  I've been renovating the bathroom
myself....

Take Care

Glenna

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On Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:31:24 -0500, weaver51@teleport.com writes:
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>-- [ From: Elaine & Howard Rubin * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
>Hello to you all. This is a test to see if the post and any other ones come
>back to me. There seems to be a slow down in incoming posts from the glass
>group... Howard
>
Hi Howard & Elain,

     Got the post loud and clear. All seems fine.   Talk to you soon.

     Wayne.


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-- [ From: Elaine & Howard Rubin * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

this is Howard...you all are coming in fine....get to work on glass projects
...enjoy


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Your message arrived intact.  The group has not been very active
lately.  I thought maybe the glass news group had absorbed 
some energy from this list.  But that list doesn't appear to 
do much with stained glass.  Anyway, good to hear from you
Howard.  I'm at work on a variety of items for the consignment
shop I found for my stuff.  Mostly small things - candle shelters
suncatchers, and the like.  A couple of small lampshades also.
Bob Cutler

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Hi one and all,
I posted this question on the newsgroup but didn't get any responses, so I
will try here.
I bought a Gryphon band saw a couple of weeks ago.  I have tried double
sticky tape, carpet tape, rubber cement and a few other things to hold the
stack of glass together while I cut.  Tonight I tried my hot glue gun which
worked out pretty well (gotta' keep the glass warm while doing this and a
teeny tiny space between the layers so as to pry them apart after cutting.
There must be a better way....right?  The instructions that came with the
saw really didn't tell me much.  Has anyone got a clue so as to help me?
Thanks in advance!
Sincerely,
Sue

Sue Stewart
A Touch of Glass
Where Glass is Class!



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Nope, Howard,  nothing much is happening on the list, or on the
newsgroup, either, I think. 

 I've been playing with a new soldering iron someone sent me - an Ungar
- and discovering that I can solder much better than I thought I could!
Nice surprise.  Bought the lumber for a new light box a friend is
helping me with, and got the frame together.  Got lessons in wiring
from another friend.  Hope to have the whole thing going by next week. 
Who knows?  Maybe it will speed up the arrival of the back-ordered
glass I've been waiting for,  for my dogwood lamp.

What's everyone else doing?  (Found your web page,  Glenna.  Very nice.
Did you ever finish the lampshade with the jeweled bottom?)   Peggy


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[In the message entitled "Re: Missing anything?" on Nov 12,  9:54, PEGGY M PALM writes:]

> What's everyone else doing?  (Found your web page,  Glenna.  Very nice.
> Did you ever finish the lampshade with the jeweled bottom?)   Peggy

Yes I have finished two lamps which I will be putting pictures of on
our web site.  I have the cd in right now adding the images on..so
it should be long before it's done.  I must say they worked out
very well.  
My next large project may not be until after the xmas season as I'm enrolled
in a lead came class.  I have only worked with copper foil so far and
I have an old panel that was leaded and was given to me to try rescue.

I have cleaned up the pieces and placed it on my light box to try figure
out the pattern.  They panel was in pieces (some were broken as well).
I took it to the teacher I previously had and he thought the glass dated
back to early 1900's.  I decided to do this panel in the lead came class
since I may need his help.

I may do up some quick candle shelters for xmas presents, but that's about
it for now.  What about everyone else?  What are you doing?


Happy Scoring

Glenna


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On Sun, 12 Nov 1995 07:55:29 PST,  gjr@daver.bungi.com writes:
>
>[In the message entitled "Re: Missing anything?" on Nov 12,  9:54, PEGGY M PALM writes:]
>
>> What's everyone else doing?  (Found your web page,  Glenna.  Very nice.
>> Did you ever finish the lampshade with the jeweled bottom?)   Peggy
>
>Yes I have finished two lamps which I will be putting pictures of on
>our web site.  I have the cd in right now adding the images on..so
>it should be long before it's done.  I must say they worked out
>very well.  
>My next large project may not be until after the xmas season as I'm enrolled
>in a lead came class.  I have only worked with copper foil so far and
>I have an old panel that was leaded and was given to me to try rescue.
>
>I have cleaned up the pieces and placed it on my light box to try figure
>out the pattern.  They panel was in pieces (some were broken as well).
>I took it to the teacher I previously had and he thought the glass dated
>back to early 1900's.  I decided to do this panel in the lead came class
>since I may need his help.
>
>I may do up some quick candle shelters for xmas presents, but that's about
>it for now.  What about everyone else?  What are you doing?
>
>
>Happy Scoring
>
>Glenna
>
>Hi Glenna, Wayne here.

     In reading your post, I have a question.  In your candle shelters, what
do you use to hold the candle?  I have made some in the past with little glass
candle holders that just sat in the base.  Right or wrong?

     I am now looking at the wall type to design and make, but at a loss as to
what or where, or if there is some kind of candle arm that attaches to the
wall plate.

     Thanks. (Right now, I am just doing some craft fair stuff) Mini flower
planters etc.

>-- 
>
>

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Personally, I'm just going out of my mind making Christmas angels and
doing two craft fairs a week.  (Plus a root canal!)

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Hi Howard
I'm replacing my 12x15 hastily-rigged table top lightbox with a 30x40
freestanding table.  Got the design from the Joe Porcelli book on lamp-
making.

> essential for shades. Make sure you wire in a dimmer switch or two if
you
> have multiple circuits. Use ONLY two wire dimmers as the three wire
ones..

Yup.  Got the same good advice from a friend who is an electrical
engineer.  He steered me to an in-line dimmer switch which is spliced
into the cord which plugs into the wall.

> As another hustle for you...do you have a worden lamp holder...also
very
> hard to do without for working on full form molds.

I do have this.  I bought it just after I started soldering my poppy
lamp.  It makes the whole job MUCH easier.

> On the final outside soldering of my 28"d/f. Still 16 wing holes to
close
> and the inside to go...around 20 more hours. No time frame or
pressure,

::::::sigh:::::  Some day I'll be able to say something like this with
such confidence, right?  16 wing holes and the inside to go sounds like
more than 20 hours in my world!  I hope you put this one on a web page
some day.  Red dragonflies sound gorgeous!   

STILL waiting for my glass.  Also found the Egon Neustadt Tiffany lamp
book *on sale* in a catalog and promptly ordered it.  We had 3 inches
of snow here yesterday.  Perfect weather for browsing through a book by
the woodstove, if only this stuff would ARRIVE!    :-)    Peggy


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[In the message entitled "Re: Missing anything?" on Nov 13,  7:54, wayne chase writes:]

>      In reading your post, I have a question.  In your candle shelters, what
> do you use to hold the candle?  I have made some in the past with little glass
> candle holders that just sat in the base.  Right or wrong?
> 
>      I am now looking at the wall type to design and make, but at a loss as to
> what or where, or if there is some kind of candle arm that attaches to the
> wall plate.
> 
>      Thanks. (Right now, I am just doing some craft fair stuff) Mini flower
> planters etc.


Actually I made mine without a bottom.  Just 4 sides.  I use a tin potpourri
candle and put the shelter around it.  I have seen them with bases in the
past made out of wood.  There again I believe it just sits on the wood base.
Hope this helps.

Glenna

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Mail*Link(r) SMTP               RE>am I missing anything???

Personally, I'm just going out of my mind making Christmas angels and
doing two craft fairs a week.  (Plus a root canal!)

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Mail*Link(r) SMTP               RE>Missing anything?

Hi Howard
I'm replacing my 12x15 hastily-rigged table top lightbox with a 30x40
freestanding table.  Got the design from the Joe Porcelli book on lamp-
making.

> essential for shades. Make sure you wire in a dimmer switch or two if
you
> have multiple circuits. Use ONLY two wire dimmers as the three wire
ones..

Yup.  Got the same good advice from a friend who is an electrical
engineer.  He steered me to an in-line dimmer switch which is spliced
into the cord which plugs into the wall.

> As another hustle for you...do you have a worden lamp holder...also
very
> hard to do without for working on full form molds.

I do have this.  I bought it just after I started soldering my poppy
lamp.  It makes the whole job MUCH easier.

> On the final outside soldering of my 28"d/f. Still 16 wing holes to
close
> and the inside to go...around 20 more hours. No time frame or
pressure,

::::::sigh:::::  Some day I'll be able to say something like this with
such confidence, right?  16 wing holes and the inside to go sounds like
more than 20 hours in my world!  I hope you put this one on a web page
some day.  Red dragonflies sound gorgeous!   

STILL waiting for my glass.  Also found the Egon Neustadt Tiffany lamp
book *on sale* in a catalog and promptly ordered it.  We had 3 inches
of snow here yesterday.  Perfect weather for browsing through a book by
the woodstove, if only this stuff would ARRIVE!    :-)    Peggy


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On Sun, 12 Nov 1995 07:55:29 PST,  gjr@daver.bungi.com writes:
>
>[In the message entitled "Re: Missing anything?" on Nov 12,  9:54, PEGGY M PALM writes:]
>
>> What's everyone else doing?  (Found your web page,  Glenna.  Very nice.
>> Did you ever finish the lampshade with the jeweled bottom?)   Peggy
>
>Yes I have finished two lamps which I will be putting pictures of on
>our web site.  I have the cd in right now adding the images on..so
>it should be long before it's done.  I must say they worked out
>very well.  
>My next large project may not be until after the xmas season as I'm enrolled
>in a lead came class.  I have only worked with copper foil so far and
>I have an old panel that was leaded and was given to me to try rescue.
>
>I have cleaned up the pieces and placed it on my light box to try figure
>out the pattern.  They panel was in pieces (some were broken as well).
>I took it to the teacher I previously had and he thought the glass dated
>back to early 1900's.  I decided to do this panel in the lead came class
>since I may need his help.
>
>I may do up some quick candle shelters for xmas presents, but that's about
>it for now.  What about everyone else?  What are you doing?
>
>
>Happy Scoring
>
>Glenna
>
>Hi Glenna, Wayne here.

     In reading your post, I have a question.  In your candle shelters, what
do you use to hold the candle?  I have made some in the past with little glass
candle holders that just sat in the base.  Right or wrong?

     I am now looking at the wall type to design and make, but at a loss as to
what or where, or if there is some kind of candle arm that attaches to the
wall plate.

     Thanks. (Right now, I am just doing some craft fair stuff) Mini flower
planters etc.

>-- 
>
>

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Hi Sue,

I have just the ticket!  Use a poster gum.  I purchased a product called
"Handi-Tak" at a local office supply for $1.  I place this at both ends of
each piece of glass to hold the sandwich together.  It works great!  Try it
out and let me know what you think!

Enjoy,
Stephanie
Delphi Stained Glass  


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Question:

I read something about someone buying a band saw and being able to cut
more than one piece at a time.  That sounds great!  Is it true that
you're able use it to cut several pieces of the same shape at the same
time?  If so, how many can you do at once?   

I have had a lot of requests for a particular piece I do, and would
love to speep up production, but I never knew how. Any other suggestions?
The piece takes me between 5-6 hours to make.

Barbara Muller

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Sue, 
I found the info I was looking for.  Someone on another board suggested
using tacky wax to hold multiple pieces of glass together for cutting
on a bandsaw.  Reheat (hair dryer) if difficult to separate after
cutting.    Hope it works for you!  Peggy


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In a message dated 95-11-13 06:58:12 EST, you write:

>  In reading your post, I have a question.  In your candle shelters, what
>do you use to hold the candle?  I have made some in the past with little
>glass
>candle holders that just sat in the base.  Right or wrong?
>
>
I've made a few of the candle holders in the Glas Designs booklets.  I used
blown glass pieces to hold the candles, like the ones shown in the booklet.
 I got them at Delphi, but because they had a lot of breakage they don't
carry them anymore.  They did say they could special order them for me
though.

Hope this helps.  

p.s.  my first post!


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Hi

Ummm there were a couple of things that i wanted to comment on...

Sticking multiple pieces of glass together for the band saw:  at the store we
use the "Stick and Stay"...it's like the poster putty stuff that you can buy...
it works good for that type of stuff...I think that it's billed for sticking
your pattern to you glass for tracing but it has alot of other uses.

Candle boxes/shelters....for making wall mounts the blown glass candle holders
look really cool when they are all done.  I think that you can get them if you
ask them to special order them... or I have seen the wall mounts done with a
small platform type piece that sticks out where the candle holder would be and
then a small glass candle holder is siliconed into place.

Just a couple of thoughts.

TTYL
 Lisa


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[In the message entitled "candle holders" on Nov 14,  0:48, GinaJoe@aol.com writes:]
> In a message dated 95-11-13 06:58:12 EST, you write:
> 
> >  In reading your post, I have a question.  In your candle shelters, what
> >do you use to hold the candle?  I have made some in the past with little
> >glass
> >candle holders that just sat in the base.  Right or wrong?

The pot pourri candles I buy come in a tin surround.  It's perfect for
burning them in.  I don't use any other holder.  I just place the
glass shelter over the candle.  It almost resembles a small xmas
light.


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I'm just getting the hang of it, but another great device
for cutting multiple pieces of the same shape is the 
Morton Portable Glass Shop.  This works for straight 
edged pieces.  You can cut a panel lamp in 1/4 to 1/3 of
the time.  It takes a bit of practise to set it up but 
once you do, the pieces fly.  It's cheaper than the 
bandsaw too, but it doesn't do curves.

Cheers,
Deb

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> 
> I'm just getting the hang of it, but another great device
> for cutting multiple pieces of the same shape is the 
> Morton Portable Glass Shop.  This works for straight 
> edged pieces.  You can cut a panel lamp in 1/4 to 1/3 of
> the time.  It takes a bit of practise to set it up but 
> once you do, the pieces fly.  It's cheaper than the 
> bandsaw too, but it doesn't do curves.

Yes - I've got one of these - very handy for geometric shapes, and
the worksurface is handy for catching fragments, too.

I've also seen a jig arrangement for mass producing curved shapes - It was
a while back so I'm a bit hazy on the details, but basically it involved
cutting a piece-shaped hole in a perspex sheet, which was then used to guide
a cutter - I can't remember whether this was a normal cutter or some pantograph
arangement. Sort of like tracing round the inside of a stencil :-).


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>I'm just getting the hang of it, but another great device
>for cutting multiple pieces of the same shape is the 
>Morton Portable Glass Shop.  This works for straight 
>edged pieces.  You can cut a panel lamp in 1/4 to 1/3 of
>the time.  It takes a bit of practise to set it up but 
>once you do, the pieces fly.  It's cheaper than the 
>bandsaw too, but it doesn't do curves.

>Cheers,
>Deb

Deb,

So the band saw cuts multiple pieces including curves, it sounds
like.  What are you using it for?   I have a complicated piece of
about 30 pieces.

Barb Muller




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>So the band saw cuts multiple pieces including curves, it 
sounds
>like.  What are you using it for?   I have a complicated 
piece of
>about 30 pieces.
>
>Barb Muller

I'm not lucky enough (or rich enough) to own a bandsaw.
I've seen some neat stuff done with it though.  The store
in our area cut pieces shaped like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
A bandsaw would allow you to cut all those wonderful curves
you could only dream would be possible using traditional
methods.  On the down side, I hear it kinda takes away that 
moment of apprehension you feel as you make that break ;^)  
It does save on glass though. 

For now I'll have to be satisfied with the Glass Shop to 
speed up my production.  Someone else mentioned the wonderful
surface it uses (looks like a giant mini icecube tray) for
catching glass bits.  I agree, it's absolutely wonderful, 
in fact, I bought that before I knew about the wonders of
the Glass Shop. 

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On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:48:55 -0500,  GinaJoe@aol.com writes:
>
>In a message dated 95-11-13 06:58:12 EST, you write:
>
>>  In reading your post, I have a question.  In your candle shelters, what
>>do you use to hold the candle?  I have made some in the past with little
>>glass
>>candle holders that just sat in the base.  Right or wrong?
>>
>>
>I've made a few of the candle holders in the Glas Designs booklets.  I used
>blown glass pieces to hold the candles, like the ones shown in the booklet.
> I got them at Delphi, but because they had a lot of breakage they don't
>carry them anymore.  They did say they could special order them for me
>though.
>
>Hope this helps.  
>
>p.s.  my first post!
>
 Thanks for the reply...Much appreciated, 


   Wayne
>

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Okay, here's an elementary question.  I've never used tacky wax,
although I picked some up once because I heard it was useful.  How do
you get it to hold stuff together?

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If you do use those tin contained votive type candles, be real
careful where you put them down.  The bottoms can get quite hot when
the candle is burning.  If you have a glass bottom in your candle shelter/
holder, whatever, put some protection between the votive candle and the
glass, such as a piece of felt, otherwise, you might crack the glass
from the heat.

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Is there a mailing list for stained glass enthusiasts ? Could you add
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Dorothy asked:
Okay, here's an elementary question.  I've never used tacky wax,
although I picked some up once because I heard it was useful.  How do
you get it to hold stuff together?

Tacky wax is normally heated to a liquid state and then painted on
Odyssey lamp forms.  When cool, it is sticky to the touch and will hold
cut glass pieces on the form without resorting to pins [as with the
styrofoam forms from Worden].  Because it is designed to allow glass to
stick to it temporarily, but be removable, you can use bits of it to
hold glass together for cuttting on the bandsaw, for one example. 
Should the pieces hold a little more firmly than expected, warming them
with a hair dryer should persuade them to part company.  

Actually, I think the stuff that Stephanie suggested would be less
messy for this purpose, and hold just as well. Tacky wax seems to stick
to your fingers as readily as to lamp forms - did you find that, too?  
   :-)       Peggy





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Thanks everyone for the help you gave me regarding the lamp I was
making, It turned out beautiful and my brother and his new wife loved
it.  They were a little concerned with how hot the glass got when they 
turned it on high.  This is a tri-light bulb which goes to 150 watt and
we worried the glass might break.  Has this ever happened to anyone?  I
told them to use a smaller watt tri-light bulb, but is this necessary?
                                                           Donna!!!

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Donna asked about:
>>>how hot the glass got when they  turned it on high.  This is a tri-
light bulb which goes to 150 watt and we worried the glass might break.

You were right to tell them to use a smaller bulb.  The usual rule of
thumb is:  if the glass feels too hot to touch where the shade is
nearest the bulb, then the wattage is too high for the shade.  Stained
glass shades are not intended to provide bright room light, such as you
might want for reading or close handwork.  Sometimes a lower wattage
bulb will make the shade look better as well, by eliminating "hot
spots" of light near the bulb which can make that area of the glass
look lighter than the others.

I haven't had this happen, but the books tell you that too much heat
inside the shade will eventually soften and weaken the solder lines. 
Does your shade have a vented cap?  That also helps to reduce the heat
build-up.

Hope this helps!  If Howard hasn't been attacked by his dragonflies, he
might know more about this.  He's made over a thousand of these, I
believe...  :-)   Peggy


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this is howard...having trouble with the e-mail connection software...answers to heat coming.
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Hi everyone.

Just wondering if anyone had any ideas for making stained glass
christmas ornaments ...other than the typical angels.
I would like to use up my scrap pieces.  Any ideas will be 
appreciated.

Thanks

Glenna

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Hi Glenna,
        I am new to stained glass and don't have any ideas for you but I
would appreciate it if you would forward some of the responses you get to me.
Thanks,

At 07:16 AM 11/22/95 PST, you wrote:
>Hi everyone.
>
>Just wondering if anyone had any ideas for making stained glass
>christmas ornaments ...other than the typical angels.
>I would like to use up my scrap pieces.  Any ideas will be 
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Glenna
>
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>
>
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>Hi everyone.
>
>Just wondering if anyone had any ideas for making stained glass
>christmas ornaments ...other than the typical angels.
>I would like to use up my scrap pieces.  Any ideas will be 
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Glenna
>
>-- 
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>gjr@bungi.com
>
>
=======================================================
I have made nice mosaics that are foil wrapped with my
spare pieces. The variations in colors look excellent next to
a tree light! They actually sell well, too!

Kathleen McMahon                           kmcmahon@craftweb.com
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Subject: stained glass ornaments
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:56:53 -0500 (EST)
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Do you make these mosaics in the shape of an ornament?

I have also made ornaments that are very easy to make.  They are
in the shape of traditional ornaments, they use only 4 pieces of
glass and then I decorate them with filigree.  I'd be glad
to send the pattern.

Barb Muller


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I play with the shapes and use much smaller pieces of glass than
just 4 pieces. I like having unusual shapes for these ornaments.
It's a little more intricate work, but the results are much more
pleasing.

>Do you make these mosaics in the shape of an ornament?
>
>I have also made ornaments that are very easy to make.  They are
>in the shape of traditional ornaments, they use only 4 pieces of
>glass and then I decorate them with filigree.  I'd be glad
>to send the pattern.
>
>Barb Muller
>
>


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> I have made nice mosaics that are foil wrapped with my
> spare pieces. The variations in colors look excellent next to
> a tree light! They actually sell well, too!

Hi Kathleen,

Did you make a panel with them or hang them singlely on the tree?


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[In the message entitled "stained glass ornaments" on Nov 22, 11:56, MULLER%ADMIN@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU writes:]
> Do you make these mosaics in the shape of an ornament?
> 
> I have also made ornaments that are very easy to make.  They are
> in the shape of traditional ornaments, they use only 4 pieces of
> glass and then I decorate them with filigree.  I'd be glad
> to send the pattern.

Sure,..I'd love the pattern..can you send it electronically?
If so, send it to ftp://ftp.bungi.com/pub/incoming/glass
If not you can mail it to G. Rand   15864 Highland Drive  San Jose
CA  95127-1743

Thanks!


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Barb, I would very much like to have a copy of the pattern, and would be
happy to reimburse you for any expenses.  Please let me know how we might
work this out.  Thanks, Laurie in Virginia

lbl@virginia.edu

At 11:56 AM 11/22/95 -0500, you wrote:

>I have also made ornaments that are very easy to make.  They are
>in the shape of traditional ornaments, they use only 4 pieces of
>glass and then I decorate them with filigree.  I'd be glad
>to send the pattern.
>
>Barb Muller
>
>
>


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UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003
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Here's something else I've been toying with (I see it in my brain,but
haven't yet made it!).  I have lots of green scrap.  cut out two
pieces that when fitted together are wreath shaped -- maybe about two
inches across.  Now, at the "top" on the back, put a hanging loop
you'll have seam there) and on the front put another little loop.
Use that loop to tie on red ribbon and all kinds of other pretty
stuff.  (PS, I forgot to mention foiling and soldering before you
put the loops on!).  Cranberries on the brain, fer sure.
Happy Thanksgiving.

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I seem to somehow tranmitted an empty message to the list...(actually
my provider threw me off while I was transmitting, so I guess that's
it, but I'm not sure which message it was that disappeared, so I
guess you'll have to wait for my words of wisdom until Friday...when
my other words of wisdom have shown up.)  Are we clear on this?

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Hello,

This address was mentioned in a postig from the
rec.crafts.glass newsgroup as a good group to learn
and discuss ideas on stained glass.  
How does this group work?

Thanks in advance,

Tara Tynan
tynan@ihgp.att.com


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I've got two pattern books with lots of small projects that could use 
up all your scrap glass.  The first is Dimensions of Christmas by Teny 
Nudson--besides the usual angels, there are toy drums, candles, 
stockings, etc. to hang on the tree.  The second is Easy to Make 
Christmas and Holiday Lightcatchers by Ed Sibbett Jr.  This one has 
bells, stars, round ornaments, wrapped gifts.  Lots of ideas and easy 
to make.  Hope they help.  Janet

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I've just put some of Glenna's stained glass work up for you to have a
look at.  If anyone else would like to put some up, please let me or Glenna
know...

See it at http://www.bungi.com/glass.


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Okay, here's what didn't get transmitted, I think.
I cut circles and ovals out of my scrap.
1) take some of that fancy scalloped brass edging and wrap it around
the circles and ovals, solder it together with a hanging ring.  I have
to hold it all together in a vise to make it fit snugly because I
only come with two hands.
2) Even easier.  Use super glue to glue narrow ribbon around your
(ground) circles and ovals.  Decorate with glass paint, ribbon, tiny
ornaments, lace, whatever you have.

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