From owner-glass Sat Sep 2 17:37:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sp30v-0000mYa; Sat, 2 Sep 95 17:34 PDT X-Path: ix.netcom.com!matmbc90 From: matmbc90@ix.netcom.com (Matthew J. McDonnell, Jr.) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Stained Glass Museum Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:31:19 -0700 Message-ID: <199509030031.RAA15673@ix9.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi!!....We're back!! Actually, Terry and I never left, we just haven't logge on in a while. 85 messages to catch up on. Anyway, does anyone know where the stained glass museum in Central Florida is? We've been told that it's outside Orlando, but we're not sure. We're taking a vacation in two weeks and we'd love to write some of it off on business. Thanks in advance. By the way, we agree that working in the heat is unbearable. We've gotten very little glass work done this summer. Which is good, because sales haven't been stellar either. It's good to be back....Matt & Terry From owner-glass Sat Sep 2 18:59:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sp4Ju-0000Z7a; Sat, 2 Sep 95 18:58 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Stained Glass Museum Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:58:52 -0700 Message-ID: <199509030158.AA16310@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk There are a few "Gators" on the list...should be able to give you an address. As a rule the more inventory you have, the more you can sell, so keep building. If you have an access to the newsgroups, try rec.crafts.glass ask if anyone there has the address, I can post it for you with your address to reply to if need be. enjoy...luck...Howard -- From owner-glass Tue Sep 5 02:11:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0spu0n-0000Ora; Tue, 5 Sep 95 02:09 PDT X-Path: mail.prodigy.com!MPGP79B From: MPGP79B@prodigy.com (PEGGY M PALM) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Florida Museum Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 20:39:44 EDT Message-ID: <013.00804118.MPGP79B@prodigy.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Blame it on aging: Was it here that someone asked for an address to a Tiffany museum in Florida? I happened to come across it. Forgive me if you really didn't want to know! Peggy Charles Hosmer Morse Museum of American Art 445 Park Ave N Winter Park, FL Hours 9:30-4 Tues-Sat 1-4 Sunday $2.50 adults, $1 students and children, advance arrangements for groups - call 407-645-5311. No photography allowed. From owner-glass Fri Sep 8 17:41:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0srDwQ-0000LLa; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:38 PDT X-Path: mail.prodigy.com!YJGE26A From: YJGE26A@prodigy.com (MRS ELSIE M TURQMAN) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Change of address Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 20:30:45 EDT Message-ID: <013.01013398.YJGE26A@prodigy.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please change my internet address to: emdt1@aol.com Elsie Turqman From owner-glass Mon Sep 18 08:19:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0suhwJ-0000GIa; Mon, 18 Sep 95 08:16 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Copperfoiling Shells Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 08:16:34 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone has ever copperfoiled sea shells? I'm making a jewellry box out of stained glass and would like to add a couple shells on the lid for a little extra touch. Do I foil them as I would a jewel? I really wondered if the flux would effect them or not... Glenna -- From owner-glass Mon Sep 18 12:01:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sulQV-0000Wja; Mon, 18 Sep 95 12:00 PDT X-Path: ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu!elgarber From: Ellen Garber To: glass@Bungi.com Subject: stained glass Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 13:59:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please add me to the mailing list. Thanks. elgarber@ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu From owner-glass Mon Sep 18 14:19:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0suna4-0000aCa; Mon, 18 Sep 95 14:18 PDT X-Path: beijing.natinst.com!todd From: todd@beijing.natinst.com (Todd Brower) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 16:22:52 CDT Message-ID: <9509182122.AA04513@beijing.natinst.com.noname> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk please unsubscribe me. But please be gentle. From owner-glass Mon Sep 18 17:48:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0suqqf-0000eWa; Mon, 18 Sep 95 17:47 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Copperfoiling Shells Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 17:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: <199509190048.AA24728@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hello, Glenna...guess who...long time no post to the list. Yeah, you can do shells, a thin edge of foil, you can slit some thinner if you need to. Heat, flux, patina, solder has not hurt the nautilius shells I used to do as fan lamps. Enjoy...It is only glass -- From owner-glass Mon Sep 18 18:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sur4u-0000M0a; Mon, 18 Sep 95 18:02 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Copperfoiling Shells Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 18:01:47 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: Copperfoiling Shells" on Sep 18, 17:48, Elaine Lea Rubin writes:] > > Hello, Glenna...guess who...long time no post to the list. > Yeah, you can do shells, a thin edge of foil, you can slit some > thinner if you need to. Heat, flux, patina, solder has not hurt > the nautilius shells I used to do as fan lamps. > Enjoy...It is only glass Thanks for your info Howard. It's greatly appreciated as always I'm anxious to try them, hopefully, this week. Glenna -- From owner-glass Tue Sep 19 06:17:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sv2Us-0000ZDa; Tue, 19 Sep 95 06:14 PDT X-Path: ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu!elgarber From: Ellen Garber To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: stained glass Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:13:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: References: <> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I am curious as to how to charge someone for a window. I have been asked to do a window, about 20 x 36 and haven't actually sold that much. I have been doing glass for about 6 yrs. and only began selling recently. I need to establish some system. Thanks. From owner-glass Tue Sep 19 12:20:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sv89E-0000LUa; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:16 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: stained glass Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:16:37 -0700 Message-ID: <199509191916.AA03399@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Ellen, Howard, here...Need more info on window: came or foil, framed or not, appx of pieces, quality of glass, intricacy of pattern, delivery, installation, and so forth. For myself, I do not usually do windows, but for the sake of scaring and eliminating potential clients, I usually quote around $300.00 per sq/ft. I make sure they understansd that the price can be ammended according to the window.(Forgot...how about art work-you or them?) A general question usually leads to more questions. Enjoy -- From owner-glass Wed Sep 20 06:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0svOsv-0000OQa; Wed, 20 Sep 95 06:08 PDT X-Path: ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu!elgarber From: Ellen Garber To: Elaine Lea Rubin Subject: Re: stained glass Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:07:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: References: <<199509191916.AA03399@ednet1.osl.or.gov>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Thanks. It is foil, framed, about 90-100 pieces. Not too intricate, a local client, it will be hung in an existing window, not installed. It is an existing pattern that I will use, so art work is not mine. I have sold a number of pieces but I need to be more consistent with priceing and appreciate your input.On Tue, 19 Sep 1995, Elaine Lea Rubin wrote: > > > Hi Ellen, Howard, here...Need more info on window: came or foil, > framed or not, appx of pieces, quality of glass, intricacy of pattern, > delivery, installation, and so forth. For myself, I do not usually > do windows, but for the sake of scaring and eliminating potential > clients, I usually quote around $300.00 per sq/ft. > I make sure they understansd that the price can be ammended according > to the window.(Forgot...how about art work-you or them?) > A general question usually leads to more questions. > Enjoy > > -- > > > > > From owner-glass Fri Sep 22 19:12:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0swK1Z-0000X7a; Fri, 22 Sep 95 19:09 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: renewed.... Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 19:09:45 -0700 Message-ID: <199509230209.AA06983@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk This is Howard....Classes started for me last week, and I even have some motivated students...looking forward to the big "tiffany". First time that I have gotten enquirers about youg students, around 9 years old...left that thought open to the maturity of the individual. Wondering if I have night care class....Pointed out that I insisted and expected at least one parent or guardian to be there and stay there. Any special lamp projects that need assistance. Odyssey has out some new patterns, and I will be starting on a 28" dragonfly in about 2 weeks...need to finish a 16" Poppy first. Weather beginning to cool a bit, no excuses for too hot....get going on that project. Enjoy.... -- From owner-glass Sat Sep 23 09:00:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0swWwx-0000N7a; Sat, 23 Sep 95 08:57 PDT X-Path: pop01.ny.us.ibm.net!mcpter From: Marie Caroline Peters To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 10:50:13 PDT Message-ID: <1995Sep23.175013.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please remove me from the mailing list. From owner-glass Sat Sep 23 09:12:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0swX9T-0000W0a; Sat, 23 Sep 95 09:10 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed.... Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:09:23 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "renewed...." on Sep 22, 19:09, Elaine Lea Rubin writes:] > > Any special lamp projects that need assistance. Odyssey has out some > new patterns, and I will be starting on a 28" dragonfly in about > 2 weeks...need to finish a 16" Poppy first. Weather beginning to cool > a bit, no excuses for too hot....get going on that project. Hi Just wondering how many panel lamps I should make beore I tackle a form lamp. ?? They are quite time consuming aren't they? Glenna -- From owner-glass Sat Sep 23 22:30:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0swjc7-0000Lqa; Sat, 23 Sep 95 22:28 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed.... Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 22:28:20 -0700 Message-ID: <199509240528.AA26310@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk hi Glenna, Howard here, what type of dome do you have in mind. The cones arethe easiest, and you probably have enough skills from the panels to tackle a dome. Worden are more versatile, but odyssey are more accurate tiffany repros. both have + and- features...let me know -- From owner-glass Sun Sep 24 08:10:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0swsew-0000Kwa; Sun, 24 Sep 95 08:08 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed.... Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 08:07:28 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: renewed...." on Sep 23, 22:28, Elaine Lea Rubin writes:] > > hi Glenna, Howard here, what type of dome do you have in mind. The cones > arethe easiest, and you probably have enough skills from the panels to > tackle a dome. Worden are more versatile, but odyssey are more accurate > tiffany repros. both have + and- features...let me know I was thinking of Worden but not sure yet. I also am interested in the Bradley bases. (Bottom lights up as well) Very nice. I think I may actually try buy this one eventually. Any experience with those? I'm very happy with the panel lamps I made. Glenna -- From owner-glass Sun Sep 24 16:42:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sx0er-00001Ta; Sun, 24 Sep 95 16:40 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed.... Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 16:41:07 -0700 Message-ID: <199509242341.AA14213@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Glenna, have not tried a Bradley, but see no major problems arising that we cannot solve...If you have the option to order the hardware for electrifying the base (light) buy it as well, as it will be hard for you to locate the special socket that allows you to light the base, shade, and both. I do keep them around, but to explain it may be difficult. Should have directions and hardware included with package for base (may be an option to buy). Usually the base does not take a lot of watts, so plan on using some less dense opals for the base glass, and see where the buld will be so as not to go too thin in that area(density of glass). Yell if you need help...Howard -- From owner-glass Sun Sep 24 18:54:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sx2j2-0000RIa; Sun, 24 Sep 95 18:52 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed.... Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 18:52:31 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: renewed...." on Sep 24, 16:41, Elaine Lea Rubin writes:] > > Hi Glenna, have not tried a Bradley, but see no major problems > arising that we cannot solve...If you have the option to order the > hardware for electrifying the base (light) buy it as well, as it will > be hard for you to locate the special socket that allows you to light > the base, shade, and both. I do keep them around, but to explain it > may be difficult. Should have directions and hardware included with > package for base (may be an option to buy). Usually the base does not > take a lot of watts, so plan on using some less dense opals for the > base glass, and see where the buld will be so as not to go too thin > in that area(density of glass). Yell if you need help...Howard > Thanks Howard, I'll let you know if I purchase one. Glenna -- From owner-glass Mon Sep 25 08:06:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sxEHE-0000XMa; Mon, 25 Sep 95 07:13 PDT X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 From: HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed...No longer hot Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 09:39:51 EDT Message-ID: <950925.094621.EDT.HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> References: <<199509230209.AA06983@ednet1.osl.or.gov>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Yup, no longer too hot to do stained glass. My husband has just strained his back, however, which leaves all the stained glass making this week to me...had a decent craft fair last weekend and have to remake lots of stuff, plus special orders...I'm tired just thinking about it. He should be able to solder by Wednesday, I hope! (And you should see my shopping list. Low on solder, low on foil, out of nightlights, out of all shades of opal blue!) Thank you--I feel better now. -- Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (860) 679-2940 FAX (860) 679-4046 UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu From owner-glass Mon Sep 25 10:08:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sxGzh-0000Wsa; Mon, 25 Sep 95 10:07 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed...No longer hot Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:06:26 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: renewed...No longer hot" on Sep 25, 9:39, HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu writes:] > Yup, no longer too hot to do stained glass. My husband has just strained > his back, however, which leaves all the stained glass making this week to > me...had a decent craft fair last weekend and have to remake lots of > stuff, plus special orders...I'm tired just thinking about it. He > should be able to solder by Wednesday, I hope! (And you should see > my shopping list. Low on solder, low on foil, out of nightlights, > out of all shades of opal blue!) Thank you--I feel better now. Wow, you sound busy! -- From owner-glass Tue Sep 26 10:22:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sxdeL-0000Kda; Tue, 26 Sep 95 10:18 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: renewed...No longer hot Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:18:45 -0700 Message-ID: <199509261718.AA17014@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hello, to Dorothy, glad you did well at the craft fair. A problem in doing well is that you have to replace the inventory( this means work). My outlets sold four large lamps in August, and I, too have to produce a few more. If you have not yet bought your nightlights, and can order about 50 of them, let me know, and I may be able to save you some $$$$$. I had some shipped to Matt in NJ and they were pleased with the brand and the price. I can broker them and have them shipped to you and billed to me...let me know and I will quote you a current price for 50. -- From owner-glass Wed Sep 27 17:21:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sy6go-0000gPa; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:19 PDT X-Path: dlr From: dlr (Dave Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: web page up Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:18 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk You can now access the stained glass archives via ftp, or the world wide web. ftp://ftp.bungi.com/pub/glass http://www.bungi.com If you have some digitized pictures of work that you have done, please send it to us for inclusion on the page! From owner-glass Fri Sep 29 09:18:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0syi2p-0000TNa; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:12 PDT X-Path: ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu!elgarber From: Ellen Garber To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk To carol-ann- I use elmer's spray glue for my patterns. I cut out the pattern and spray the back of it and place it on the glass. I grind down to the paper (if I can't cut exact). It seems to stay on the glass well and then I peel it off once I have it ground to perfection. Water or water and dish soap clean it up nicely. From owner-glass Fri Sep 29 16:11:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0syoWF-0000jEa; Fri, 29 Sep 95 16:07 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Gatewayed mail message Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 16:07:49 -0700 Message-ID: <199509292307.AA11296@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk This is Howard...To Carol Ann, and????? I find that when doing multiple repeat patterns such a 9 repeat dragonfly, the paste method ain't to good. Try, before you cut your pattern apart, laminate it with clear shelf contact paper, both sides. Then cut it apart, trace the pattern on your glass (use a sharpie ULTRA or EXTRA fine point). AS you get better, cut the pattern line off the glass when you cut it out...this will eliminate heavy grinding. The lamin- ation makes the pattern waterproof and re-useable, too. Enjoy...Howard --