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23gjnl@aol.com --E_.E__2FD_F113A-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 8 11:17:23 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:54:24 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: robertson.org.nz!wendy From: Wendy Robertson To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00673845CC256E15_=" Subject: Soldering Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:47:22 +1300 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@robertson.org.nz> Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00673845CC256E15_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, I have just finished soldering a small window panel. I had done the leading up well - all the joins were great. It was the first serious project I had attempted and I was very pleased. Then the problems started when I began soldering. I first.tested the iron on some scraps of lead and it seemed to be OK. After I had soldered the second side however I noticed with some dismay that the iron must have been too hot because on some of the joins tiny holes appeared to have been eaten away from the sides of the lead where the solder was. I checked the tip (the iron is a Weller 100D) and it was an 8 - I have since found out that a 7 would have been better. I feel a little down now as my almost perfect panel has been let down by poor soldering - but I think I should give myself a break as I am a beginner !! Anyway, does anyone know if the slight melting of the leads at the sides of a few joins is a problem or will be a problem? Cheers, Wendy --=_alternative 00673845CC256E15_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,

I have just finished soldering a small window panel.  I had done the leading up well - all the joins were great.  It was the first serious project I had attempted and I was very pleased. Then the problems started when I began soldering.  I first.tested the iron on some scraps of lead and it seemed to be OK.  After I had soldered the second side however I noticed with some dismay that the iron must have been too hot because on some of the joins tiny holes appeared to have been eaten away from the sides of the lead where the solder was.  I checked the tip (the iron is a Weller 100D) and it was an 8 - I have since found out that a 7 would have been better.  I feel a little down now as my almost perfect panel has been let down by poor soldering - but I think I should give myself a break as I am a beginner !!  Anyway, does anyone know if the slight melting of the leads at the sides of a few joins is a problem or will be a problem?

Cheers,
Wendy --=_alternative 00673845CC256E15_=-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jan 8 22:21:24 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:26:37 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry Phibbs To: Wendy Robertson , glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Bungi - Re: Soldering Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:02:19 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@robertson.org.nz>> Precedence: bulk Hi Wendy.. It's a fairly common problem.. there are all sorts of variables that enter into the lead soldering process.. such as the alloy of the lead, the size of the lead, the alloy of the solder, the flux, and of course.. the heat of the soldering iron tip, and how long it was on the joint. Over time, with more hands on experience, you'll begin to improve your soldering technique, you'll find the right "feel" for the process. But your shrinkage of the lead at the joints, probably doesn't really lessen the strength of the panel, and I'll suggest that once you've puttied the panel, and cleaned up all of the excess putty, and brushed it all done very well.. you probably will be the only person who will be able to spot those minor errors. I wouldn't sweat it.. really.. from my own personal experience.. I know there are times when you just have to say.. "well, that's how it turned out", and leave it at that. While we'd all love to do perfect work all of the time, you have to remember that this is an art form.. and I'd suggest that rather than obsessing on those joints, you finish up the panel, and move on to the next panel that you want to create! You'll do the best you can to not make the same mistakes, but surely you'll make others.. it's a learning curve that stays with us all. So, don't fret about it.. as long as the panel's joints are sound, even if they're not all that aesthetic, and the panel is properly puttied.. I doubt there will be any problems with the panel. Move on.. look forward in your chosen media, and just keep working on it! Peace -Gerry, IGGA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 9 19:58:59 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:39 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: connected.bc.ca!jdrich From: "Janet Richardson" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Bungi - Re: Soldering Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:47:30 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@connected.bc.ca> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net>> Organization: JDR Associates Precedence: bulk Thank you, Wendy and Gerry, for this dialog on soldering and perfection. = I am a beginner, and am finally beading a Tiffany lamp that I started eight = years ago. I put it away when I got frustrated with cutting bumpy, layered lamp = glass that had a mind of its own, then bought a Taurus Ring Saw last summer and = carried on. I had this vision in my mind of doing a perfect job; now that I am = beading the outside of the lamp and having trouble making it perfect my dreams of = perfection have been dashed! Your dialog has come just at the right time, and is = the "pep talk" I needed. Thanks again, Janet -----Original Message----- From: Gerry Phibbs [mailto:glasscutter@earthlink.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:02 PM To: Wendy Robertson; glass@bungi.com Subject: Bungi - Re: Soldering Hi Wendy.. It's a fairly common problem.. there are all sorts of variables that = enter into the lead soldering process.. such as the alloy of the lead, the = size of the lead, the alloy of the solder, the flux, and of course.. the heat of the soldering iron tip, and how long it was on the joint.=20 Over time, with more hands on experience, you'll begin to improve your = soldering technique, you'll find the right "feel" for the process. But your shrinkage of the lead at the joints, probably doesn't really = lessen the strength of the panel, and I'll suggest that once you've puttied the = panel, and cleaned up all of the excess putty, and brushed it all done very = well.. you probably will be the only person who will be able to spot those minor = errors. I wouldn't sweat it.. really.. from my own personal experience.. I = know there are times when you just have to say.. "well, that's how it turned out", = and leave it at that. While we'd all love to do perfect work all of the = time, you have to remember that this is an art form.. and I'd suggest that rather = than obsessing on those joints, you finish up the panel, and move on to the = next panel that you want to create!=20 You'll do the best you can to not make the same mistakes, but surely = you'll make others.. it's a learning curve that stays with us all. So, don't fret about it.. as long as the panel's joints are sound, = even if they're not all that aesthetic, and the panel is properly puttied.. I = doubt there will be any problems with the panel. Move on.. look forward in = your chosen media, and just keep working on it! Peace -Gerry, IGGA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 9 20:35:12 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:33:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: holtenwood.bc.ca!studios From: "Timothy Atwood" To: "Bungi" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is Bungi Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:45 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@holtenwood.bc.ca> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Organization: Holtenwood Studios Precedence: bulk I think the question being asked is 'What is the meaning of the name "Bungi"? ' Something myself have wondered off and on for all the years I have been a member of this wonderful group. So could anyone enlighten us? Thanks. By the way - A late belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. My studio is back up and running following the fire that destroyed everything. Seems like I still turn around at least once a day looking for some tool or piece of glass I no longer have. I've replaced enough to be working on a couple of new commissions though. Looking forward to getting involved in the bungi glass community again. Timothy Atwood - Glass and Wood Holtenwood Studios http://www.holtenwood.bc.ca/studios/ (re-sending post since it still does not seem to be going through) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 9 21:58:06 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:20:39 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: robertson.org.nz!wendy From: Wendy Robertson To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00790102CC256E16_=" Subject: Thanks for the advice on soldering Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:01:42 +1300 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@robertson.org.nz> Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00790102CC256E16_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi all, Thanks to everyone for the advice on soldering. I haven't replied personally to everyone but I really have appreciated everyone's kind and helpful words. I am over the moon at my first effort - I never dreamed I could put 52 pieces of glass together with any success. I have to keep rushing out to look at it to remind myself I did it. Anyway, thanks again. Regards, Wendy --=_alternative 00790102CC256E16_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi all,

Thanks to everyone for the advice on soldering.  I haven't replied personally to everyone but I really have appreciated everyone's kind and helpful words.  I am over the moon at my first effort - I never dreamed I could put 52 pieces of glass together with any success.  I have to keep rushing out to look at it to remind myself I did it.  Anyway, thanks again.

Regards,
Wendy --=_alternative 00790102CC256E16_=-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jan 9 22:07:31 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:58:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: gjr From: gjr@bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass Subject: Bungi meaning Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:54:41 PST Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Aloha everyone, Bungi is just the name of our server,...no big deal to it.... -- Glenna Rand gjr@bungi.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 10 01:58:18 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:16:38 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: glastar.com!lmitchell From: Lori J. Mitchell To: Wendy Robertson , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: re: Soldering Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:20:59 -0800 Message-ID: Organization: Glastar Corporation Precedence: bulk Dear Bungi friend,=20 I have used the Weller 100, and they claim an internal thermostat control = however I have found that it doesn't work well for leaded glass. May I suggest = that what ever iron you choose you also invest in a thermostat control device. = Of course I am going to tell you that Glastar makes the best but what ever you = choose a thermostat control will improve you level of temperature control to a = smaller variance and prevent this type of problem. Good Luck!=20 Thank you,=20 Lori Mitchell Chief Executive Officer Glastar Corporation www.glastar.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 10 02:41:09 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:19:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: glastar.com!lmitchell From: Lori J. Mitchell To: Glass Listserv for Lori , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: re[2]: What is Bungi Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:14:51 -0800 Message-ID: Organization: Glastar Corporation Precedence: bulk Dear Group, Does anyone know where to buy engraving machines and wheels? Thank you, Lori Mitchell Chief Executive Officer Glastar Corporation www.glastar.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 10 10:41:42 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:10:23 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: peak.org!inhockdeep From: "InHockDeep" To: "Janet Richardson" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bungi - Re: Soldering Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:13:00 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@peak.org> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@connected.bc.ca>> Precedence: bulk from an experienced solderer...... use a HOT IRON and move quickly...IMHO most of the irons are not enough at the tip, but do prove adequate if not time effective. do not go back and forth like you are painting,,,,,,it only confuses the solder If there is a lot of oxidation on the foil it makes it a lot harder to run an unbroken bead.......use a plastic pot scrubber to bring up new copper, of course being careful not to tear the foil. it takes practice to learn to run a clean bead....... h as an aside (tout here) I have some lamp stuff and glass strips on ebay.....here is one link...then check out my other auctions: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3652406084 To Email Elaine or Howard USE: weaver51@peak.org To Email Howard ONLY USE: inhockdeep@peak.org My shades are back: http://www.webjacks.com/rubin ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jan 10 17:12:11 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:51:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: yahoo.com!ixfssha From: "Ladonna Hudson" To: ghufran@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Home Loans as low as 2.95% Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:59:48 -0700 Message-ID: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:10:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Bergjuca From: Bergjuca@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_boundary" Subject: Fwd: What is Bungi Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:15:49 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_alt_boundary" --part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ah, good question! and also wanted to wish all a merry christmas and happy new year! its been a long while since i've posted, almost as long as it has been since i've done glass work. finished my peacock window and it turned out fab! i can't seem to get a good pic of it as it keeps turning out looking purple instead of the beautiful cobalt blue and green that it is...anyway, will post a pic when i can get a good one. moving in a few months, bought a house with a garage and a work room already built! can hardly wait to get my operation out of the basement and into its own place for a change!!! anyway, what the heck IS a bungi? lol jules oshawa ontario, formerly longview texas --part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ah, goo= d question!  and also wanted to wish all a merry christmas and happy ne= w year!  its been a long while since i've posted, almost as long as it=20= has been since i've done glass work.  finished my peacock window and it= turned out fab!  i can't seem to get a good pic of it as it keeps turn= ing out looking purple instead of the beautiful cobalt blue and green that i= t is...anyway, will post a pic when i can get a good one.  moving in a=20= few months, bought a house with a garage and a work room already built! = ; can hardly wait to get my operation out of the basement and into its own p= lace for a change!!!  anyway, what the heck IS a bungi? lol

jules
oshawa ontario, formerly longview texas --part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_alt_boundary-- --part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yj03.mx.aol.com (rly-yj03.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.163]) by air-yj03.mail.aol.com (v97.14) with ESMTP id MAILINYJ34-8023fff815d249; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:37:18 -0500 Received: from daver.bungi.com (daver.bungi.com [207.126.97.2]) by rly-yj03.mx.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYJ32-8023fff815d249; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:36:52 -0500 Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:33:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: holtenwood.bc.ca!studios From: "Timothy Atwood" To: "Bungi" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is Bungi Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:45 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@holtenwood.bc.ca> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Organization: Holtenwood Studios Precedence: bulk X-AOL-IP: 207.126.97.2 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I think the question being asked is 'What is the meaning of the name "Bungi"? ' Something myself have wondered off and on for all the years I have been a member of this wonderful group. So could anyone enlighten us? Thanks. By the way - A late belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. My studio is back up and running following the fire that destroyed everything. Seems like I still turn around at least once a day looking for some tool or piece of glass I no longer have. I've replaced enough to be working on a couple of new commissions though. Looking forward to getting involved in the bungi glass community again. Timothy Atwood - Glass and Wood Holtenwood Studios http://www.holtenwood.bc.ca/studios/ (re-sending post since it still does not seem to be going through) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass --part1_129.38fcc174.2d317125_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 11 00:09:34 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:59:15 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: connected.bc.ca!jdrich From: "Janet Richardson" To: "'InHockDeep'" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Bungi - Re: Soldering Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:43:38 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@connected.bc.ca> References: <<026f01c3d730$0913cb00$6401a8c0@peak.org>> Organization: JDR Associates Precedence: bulk Comments from all you experienced solderers much appreciated! Janet -----Original Message----- From: InHockDeep [mailto:inhockdeep@peak.org]=20 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:13 PM To: Janet Richardson; glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Bungi - Re: Soldering from an experienced solderer...... use a HOT IRON and move quickly...IMHO most of the irons are not enough = at the tip, but do prove adequate if not time effective. do not go back and = forth like you are painting,,,,,,it only confuses the solder If there is a lot of oxidation on the foil it makes it a lot harder to = run an unbroken bead.......use a plastic pot scrubber to bring up new copper, = of course being careful not to tear the foil. it takes practice to learn to run a clean bead....... h as an aside (tout here) I have some lamp stuff and glass strips on ebay.....here is one link...then check out my other auctions: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3652406084 To Email Elaine or Howard USE: weaver51@peak.org To Email Howard ONLY USE: inhockdeep@peak.org My shades are back: http://www.webjacks.com/rubin ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jan 11 00:10:19 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:12:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: "Eder Christoph" To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Fa. Waldboth, Eder Christoph Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:54:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20040110165437.SKNX3280.fep01-svc.swip.net@Leimer-Eder> Precedence: bulk Dear Team ! We are Austrias biggest producer of Energydrinks with own label. If you are interested, you should contact me. With best regards out of Enns Eder Christoph Sales Manager energy@tele2.at www.waldboth-energy.at 00436769355612 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 12 05:10:57 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 05:06:13 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!WaynLinda From: WaynLinda@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1073826416" Subject: new address Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:06:56 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk -------------------------------1073826416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to change my email address, but i really want to stay on the list. 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-------------------------------1073826416-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jan 12 10:09:03 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:34:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: verizon.net!n.granger From: "n.granger" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3D85E.753467C0" Subject: Picture Frames Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:17:49 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@verizon.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3D85E.753467C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have cut the glass for a 5x7 picture frame. When I lay it out it looks fine until I put on the channel. The channel shows through the glass. Do I need to cut the clear glass a differently (larger or smaller). Or is there something else that I need to do to fix this? ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3D85E.753467C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have cut the = glass for a 5x7 picture frame. When I lay it out it

looks fine until I = put on the channel.  The channel shows through the

glass. Do I need to = cut the clear glass a differently (larger or

smaller). Or is = there something else that I need to do to fix this?

 

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Mitchell To: n.granger , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: re: Picture Frames Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:25:00 -0800 Message-ID: Organization: Glastar Corporation Precedence: bulk Dear N., I don't have a mental picture of what you are doing but if I think I understand = what you are saying, just grouting the piece would solve the problem. Maybe = you had not intended to grout the piece. You could use two pieces of single = strength glass and some clear silicon seal, or you might consider the copper = foil method. Good Luck! Thank you,=20 Lori Mitchell Chief Executive Officer Glastar Corporation www.glastar.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jan 14 13:10:09 2004 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:31:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: wideopenwest.com!dvansickle3437 From: "dvansickle" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DAB2.8D2F0A50" Subject: Spam on list Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:24:49 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@wideopenwest.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DAB2.8D2F0A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear owner of the wonderful Bungi glass list, =20 Can something be done about the level and content of spam? I truly enjoy reading of others work and accomplishments. It is a thrill to hear of a project that turned out even better than the artist expected. I enjoy looking at a picture of completed projects that have a link to view. = The questions that are asked, along with replies, are truly insightful. They = are a pleasure to read. But I must say I don't look forward to seeing advertisements that are promoting sexual products, refinancing scams. = Can something be done? Can a filter be placed on the list? Can the messages = be moderated, or just plain rejected from non list members? =20 Once again I do truly enjoy what the list has to offer and feel others = might enjoy it more if there was less spam. =20 Sincerely, =20 David =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DAB2.8D2F0A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear owner of the wonderful Bungi = glass list,

 

Can something be done about the = level and content of spam? I truly enjoy reading of others work and = accomplishments. It is a thrill to hear of a project that turned out even better than the = artist expected. I enjoy looking at a picture of completed projects that have a = link to view.  The questions that are asked, along with replies, are = truly insightful. They are a pleasure to read. But I must say I don’t = look forward to seeing advertisements that are promoting sexual products, refinancing = scams… Can something be done? Can a filter be placed on the list? Can the = messages be moderated, or just plain rejected from non list members?

 

Once again I do truly enjoy what = the list has to offer and feel others might enjoy it more if there was less = spam…

 

Sincerely,

 

David  

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