From owner-glass Fri Aug 1 09:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: supplier Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:11:06 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what's with Hee Sun Stained Glass? In Finksburg MD - Cec ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 1 10:26:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: direct.ca!qzqyynj0ocv From: "Georgette Woodard" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="BCAD00A8DF0.3.ADCB4_" Subject: ROSEANNE'S pics nvdjyzozc kffqiaaevo Date: Sat, 02 Aug 03 03:42:31 GMT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@direct.ca> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --BCAD00A8DF0.3.ADCB4_ Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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238484 50E4BA54-63AA66AA-6C6C3FAB-2755A784-755EA805 1148589136 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 4 11:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mindspring.com!johncarmichael From: "John Carmichael" To: "Glass List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E4_01C35A78.E8DA1E90" Subject: Two easy questions Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:09:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E4_01C35A78.E8DA1E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good morning: I've got a couple of basic questions that I'm getting from sundial = makers. I'm wondering if you could be so kind to answer. You can tell = I'm not a glass artisan. 1. Aren't most stained glass windows painted on the outside instead of = the inside? 2. Are protective glass or acrylic covers on the outside of stained = glass windows very common? A Japanese glass artisan told me protective = covers are common in Japanese stained glass windows. thanks John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: = http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ------=_NextPart_000_01E4_01C35A78.E8DA1E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good morning:
 
I've got a couple of basic questions that I'm = getting from=20 sundial makers.  I'm wondering if you could be so kind to = answer.  You=20 can tell I'm not a glass artisan.
 
1. Aren't most stained glass windows painted on the = outside=20 instead of the inside?
 
2. Are protective glass or acrylic covers on the = outside of=20 stained glass windows very common?  A Japanese glass artisan told = me=20 protective covers are common in Japanese stained glass = windows.
 
thanks
 
John
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills = Dr.
Tucson=20 Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.c= om
Sundial=20 Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.co= m
Stained=20 Glass Sundials Website: http://advan= ceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
------=_NextPart_000_01E4_01C35A78.E8DA1E90-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 5 15:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mindspring.com!johncarmichael From: "John Carmichael" To: "Glass List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C35B32.8031DDF0" Subject: Pattern Types and Sources? Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:18:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C35B32.8031DDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This question of Stained Glass patterns has just come up in the Sundial = List where the subject of stained glass sundials is being discussed. = Everyone is curious about the following. By the way, I would like to copy and paste your answers into a letter to = the Sundial List, but I won't include your names or addresses, just your = answers. But they are decent people, just like you guys, so I don't = think they'd spam you to death if they did know. But just to be sure I = won't release your names and addresses. 1. What type of paper or paper-like material do the glassers use for = their window patterns (white bond paper, vellum, Mylar, other?). 2. Do most glassers use "light boxes" underneath their patterns? In = other words, does the material that the pattern is printed on have to be = translucent? 3.Do most modern glassers draw their patterns by hand or computer (Adobe = and or CAD). Or do they usually purchase them all done. 4. Are most glassers comfortable with sending and receiving digital = patterns in PDF format for example? John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: = http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ------=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C35B32.8031DDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This question of Stained Glass patterns has just = come up in=20 the Sundial List where the subject of stained glass sundials is being=20 discussed. Everyone is curious about the following.
 
By the way, I would like to copy and paste your = answers into a=20 letter to the Sundial List, but I won't include your names or addresses, = just=20 your answers. But they are decent people, just like you guys, so I don't = think=20 they'd spam you to death if they did know.  But just to be sure I = won't=20 release your names and addresses.
 
1. What type of paper or paper-like material do the = glassers=20 use for their window patterns (white bond paper, vellum, Mylar,=20 other?).
 
2. Do most glassers use "light boxes" underneath = their=20 patterns?  In other words, does the material that the pattern is = printed on=20 have to be translucent?
 
3.Do most modern glassers draw their patterns by = hand or=20 computer (Adobe and or CAD).  Or do they usually purchase them all=20 done.
 
4. Are most glassers comfortable with sending = and=20 receiving digital patterns in PDF format for example?
 
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills = Dr.
Tucson=20 Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.c= om
Sundial=20 Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.co= m
Stained=20 Glass Sundials Website: http://advan= ceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
------=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C35B32.8031DDF0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 5 23:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: ptdprolog.net!suzi1025 From: suzanne albright To: Glass List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Two easy questions Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:50:14 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@ptdprolog.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com>> Precedence: bulk I can't answer the painting question, but yes, lots of windows are covered on the outside with glass or plexi. To reduce weather damage but particularly vandal damage, which would be tragic. Suzanne on 8/4/03 2:09 PM, John Carmichael at johncarmichael@mindspring.com wrote: > Good morning: > > I've got a couple of basic questions that I'm getting from sundial makers. > I'm wondering if you could be so kind to answer. You can tell I'm not a glass > artisan. > > 1. Aren't most stained glass windows painted on the outside instead of the > inside? > > 2. Are protective glass or acrylic covers on the outside of stained glass > windows very common? A Japanese glass artisan told me protective covers are > common in Japanese stained glass windows. > > thanks > > John > > John L. Carmichael Jr. > 925 E. Foothills Dr. > Tucson Arizona, USA > Tel: 520-696-1709 > Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com > Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com > Stained Glass Sundials Website: > http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 5 23:28:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: "John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow|" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Pattern Types and Sources? Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 01:20:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com>> Precedence: bulk --------------020102020706070102090300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: > This question of Stained Glass patterns has just come up in the > Sundial List where the subject of stained glass sundials is being > discussed. Everyone is curious about the following. > > By the way, I would like to copy and paste your answers into a letter > to the Sundial List, but I won't include your names or addresses, just > your answers. But they are decent people, just like you guys, so I > don't think they'd spam you to death if they did know. But just to be > sure I won't release your names and addresses. > > 1. What type of paper or paper-like material do the glassers use for > their window patterns (white bond paper, vellum, Mylar, other?). We generally use a variety of materials. Some people like clear contact paper. Others find just ordinary plain copier paper works well. I also have a roll of very wide art paper which I use when drawing my own patterns, since I like to draw them at 100%. Someday, when I get around to it and have $45 or so, I intend to get a roll of white tyvek - used as insulation/water barrier in house building. Tyvek is practically untearable, so it could be reused. > > 2. Do most glassers use "light boxes" underneath their patterns? In > other words, does the material that the pattern is printed on have to > be translucent? Not only do most of us end up buying or making ourselves light boxes, the more you do, the easier it becomes to not use cut pattern pieces, but instead to lay the pattern on the light table, put the glass on top and cut. This is sometimes referred to as the English method, or Englishing. > > 3.Do most modern glassers draw their patterns by hand or computer > (Adobe and or CAD). Or do they usually purchase them all done. I suspect that the vast majority of glassers use purchased patterns, although they may alter them. There are those who mix and match to create a new design with already established elements. I suspect that the number of hobbiests like me who do their own designs entirely from scratch are maybe less than 20%. That percentage will be much higher for professionals, but even they will use published designs if that is what the client wants. So - if the client wants a replica of Tiffany's Wisteria panel, that's what they get. Needless to say the line at which you are violating copyrights is somewhat shady, but Disney will prosecute the little guy doing Mickey Mouse knockoffs. Some types of design lend themselves to computer generation, especially geometric patterns, or block types like Arts and Crafts. Parts of a design can be built by drawing half, and then mirroring the other half. I did a sandblasted set of panels in which I took the leaves in a customer's wallpaper pattern and (Photoshop) stretched, twisted, curled and otherwise altered them, and then scattered them around on the glass panels. When creating larger designs, I often take them to Kinko's to be reproduced for my cut and assembly copies, and I will have them make me a reduced copy (8.5x11) that can be scanned into my computer. That way I have a good record of the design, even though I like to also photograph finished pieces. I don't go the other direction - taking a small copy and have them enlarge it if the size has to be exact at the blownup size. Nor do I have them scan it on their big equipment - can't afford it. Even professional shops don't do a great deal of computer generation, though that may change as the younger more computer savy people take up glass. > > 4. Are most glassers comfortable with sending and receiving digital > patterns in PDF format for example? I doubt it. Most can't even distinguish between plain text files and html. Unless they have a Mac with OS X, they probably can't create because most don't have a a Postscript printer, don't know that there are little programs that let you create .pdf files without a Postscript printer, and few actually own a copy of Acrobat - they just use the freebie Acrobat readers. More people will be able to handle .jpg or JPEG files, since they master that in order to send photos via email. Even there, many are not able to compress the file size or cut it down so it can be sent or printed easily by email. The number of people who ftp is probably minimal among glassers. By and large, we are not a particularly computer tech people. As I mentioned before, that will probably change somewhat as new young people get involved. But the personalities involved - in a 2 millenia old art/craft involving hands on work - simply may not lend the practitioners enough interest in also conquering the tech skills for computing. - Cec > > > John L. Carmichael Jr. > 925 E. Foothills Dr. > Tucson Arizona, USA > Tel: 520-696-1709 > Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com > > Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com > Stained Glass Sundials Website: > http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass --------------020102020706070102090300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote:
This question of Stained Glass patterns has just come up in the Sundial List where the subject of stained glass sundials is being discussed. Everyone is curious about the following.
 
By the way, I would like to copy and paste your answers into a letter to the Sundial List, but I won't include your names or addresses, just your answers. But they are decent people, just like you guys, so I don't think they'd spam you to death if they did know.  But just to be sure I won't release your names and addresses.
 
1. What type of paper or paper-like material do the glassers use for their window patterns (white bond paper, vellum, Mylar, other?).
We generally use a variety of materials.  Some people like clear contact paper.  Others find just ordinary plain copier paper works well.  I also have a roll of very wide art paper which I use when drawing my own patterns, since I like to draw them at 100%.  Someday, when I get around to it and have $45 or so, I intend to get a roll of white tyvek - used as insulation/water barrier in house building.  Tyvek is practically untearable, so it could be reused.

 
2. Do most glassers use "light boxes" underneath their patterns?  In other words, does the material that the pattern is printed on have to be translucent?
Not only do most of us end up buying or making ourselves light boxes, the more you do, the easier it becomes to not use cut pattern pieces, but instead to lay the pattern on the light table, put the glass on top and cut.  This is sometimes referred to as the English method, or Englishing.
 
3.Do most modern glassers draw their patterns by hand or computer (Adobe and or CAD).  Or do they usually purchase them all done.
I suspect that the vast majority of glassers use purchased patterns, although they may alter them.  There are those who mix and match to create a new design with already established elements.  I suspect that the number of hobbiests like me who do their own designs entirely from scratch are maybe less than 20%.  That percentage will be much higher for professionals, but even they will use published designs if that is what the client wants.  So - if the client wants a replica of Tiffany's Wisteria panel, that's what they get.  Needless to say the line at which you are violating copyrights is somewhat shady, but Disney will prosecute the little guy doing Mickey Mouse knockoffs.

Some types of design lend themselves to computer generation, especially geometric patterns, or block types like Arts and Crafts.  Parts of a design can be built by drawing half, and then mirroring the other half.  I did a sandblasted set of panels in which I took the leaves in a customer's wallpaper pattern and (Photoshop) stretched, twisted, curled and otherwise altered them, and then scattered them around on the glass panels.  When creating larger designs, I often take them to Kinko's to be reproduced for my cut and assembly copies, and I will have them make me a reduced copy (8.5x11) that can be scanned into my computer.  That way I have a good record of the design, even though I like to also photograph finished pieces.  I don't go the other direction - taking a small copy and have them enlarge it if the size has to be exact at the blownup size.  Nor do I have them scan it on their big equipment - can't afford it.

Even professional shops don't do a great deal of computer generation, though that may change as the younger more computer savy people take up glass.

 
4. Are most glassers comfortable with sending and receiving digital patterns in PDF format for example?
I doubt it.  Most can't even distinguish between plain text files and html.  Unless they have a Mac with OS X, they probably can't create because most don't have a a Postscript printer, don't know that there are little programs that let you create .pdf files without a Postscript printer, and few actually own a copy of Acrobat - they just use the freebie Acrobat readers.

More people will be able to handle .jpg or JPEG files, since they master that in order to send photos via email.  Even there, many are not able to compress the file size or cut it down so it can be sent or printed easily by email.  The number of people who ftp is probably minimal among glassers.  By and large, we are not a particularly computer tech people.  As I mentioned before, that will probably change somewhat as new young people get involved.  But the personalities involved - in a 2 millenia old art/craft involving hands on work - simply may not lend the practitioners enough interest in also conquering the tech skills for computing. - Cec

 
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com
Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com
Stained Glass Sundials Website: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass

--------------020102020706070102090300-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 6 11:23:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: northlights.co.uk!toby From: "Toby" To: "Patrick Kelly" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Glass List Rules Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:08:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@northlights.co.uk> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@hot.rr.com>> Precedence: bulk Ah, yes!! Memories in deed!! How is the tutu, Patrick? Does it still fit? Was very interested in the sun dial posting John. Will hope to explore your web-site in the next few days, once I have waded through the 1000s of e-mails (and loads of spam!)waiting for me on my return back to UK. Elisabeth 'n Toby in UK www.northlights.co.uk > Oh YES! How can I ever forget.....LOL > > Patrick > Roses and Rainbows > > -----Original Message----- > From: suzanne albright [mailto:suzi1025@ptdprolog.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 PM > To: Glass List > Subject: Re: Glass List Rules > > > Welcome, John! > > I received your e-mail just fine. I don't remember any attachments, but > I did click on your website and read quite a bit about what you do. Very > interesting. > > We had a big discussion on gnomens a while back. Anybody remember? :) > > Suzanne > > on 7/9/03 2:47 PM, John Carmichael at johncarmichael@mindspring.com > wrote: > > > Hello all: > > > > This is my first real letter to the group. I sent one yesterday, but > > it had a photo attachment and was written in HTML format instead of > > plain text. I sent it out but it did not arrive in my inbox, so I > > think it might have violated some List rule. I'm wondering if the > > List has restrictions on attachments and text format and that's why my > > > letter didn't make it to you? > > > > thanks > > > > John > > > > John L. Carmichael Jr. > > Sundial Sculptures > > 925 E. Foothills Dr. > > Tucson Arizona 85718 > > USA > > > > Tel: 520-696-1709 > > Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com > > Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com > > > > > > ---- > > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 6 19:23:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 18:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: northlights.co.uk!toby From: "Toby" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Anyone around or too busy w. projects... Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:41:32 +0100 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@northlights.co.uk> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk Hello friends, Still lurking...... Just returned back to UK after a 5 weeks tour in a campervan to France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Hungary, Austria, Germany! Visited Reims Cathedral in France, plus St.Matthew in Budapest (an old favourite of mine) and am now developing my s.g. pixs from the trip. Firing up for the next lot of commissions that are overdue. Finished the Swan Panel before I left and it has been installed.. (Glenna.... still looking for you, but the antique season is dead for the summer and only kicks off again in October). EliSabeth 'n Toby in UK www.northlights.co.uk > Nope, there's been some posts since then. Several, in fact. > > Maybe people are busy with projects? I'm in the middle of building a window > for my front door. It's the crescent moon & sun pattern from Paned > Expressions. Finished cutting all my glass today and now comes the 'joy' of > foiling it all. Actually, it's not so bad, foiling is rather Zen-like for > me. I'm just not fond of foiling, and even less fond of grinding LOL! > > Jerry > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 8 10:11:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mindspring.com!johncarmichael From: "John Carmichael" To: "Glass List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C35D8B.BB8BE250" Subject: Skylight Sundial Windows Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:02:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C35D8B.BB8BE250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Glassers. I was thinking that it might be possible to have a stained glass sundial = window in the ceiling of a room. The metal rod gnomon would be attached = to the outside of the window, then the window and gnomon would be = protected by a protective bubble (plastic?) skylight on the roof. = Wouldn't that be neat! Here's my big question: I've never seen a stained glass window mounted horizontally. Can it be = done? Or will it's own weight cause it to sag. thanks, John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: = http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C35D8B.BB8BE250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Glassers.
 
I was thinking that it might be possible to have a = stained=20 glass sundial window in the ceiling of a room.  The metal rod = gnomon would=20 be attached to the outside of the window, then the window and gnomon = would be=20 protected by a protective bubble (plastic?) skylight on the roof.  = Wouldn't=20 that be neat!
 
Here's my big question:
 
I've never seen a stained glass window mounted = horizontally.=20 Can it be done?  Or will it's own weight cause it to = sag.
 
thanks,
 
John
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills = Dr.
Tucson=20 Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.c= om
Sundial=20 Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.co= m
Stained=20 Glass Sundials Website: http://advan= ceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C35D8B.BB8BE250-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 8 15:09:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: rcn.com!shad.nai From: "Family Account" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pattern Types and Sources? Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:29:13 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@rcn.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk On the other hand (back from a lovely vacation at the race track in Saratoga Springs).. Although I have a light box, it's built into a storage unit and is too high to cut on, so I do make patterns. We use Glass Eye to create original design work. Rarely is any design work done by hand anymore. No fancy printers here, so we print off a base copy, on regular copy paper and a pattern copy on oak tag. We don't have the room to do too large a piece (I'd say 2 feet by 3 feet is pretty mush our limit), so it's not too much trouble to tape the base pattern together, We do a bit of cut and paste with the pattern pieces, so we don't have a taped seam on the oak tag, if at all possible. And I'm pretty good with a computer, although I'm not young. (I am now off to a horse racing forum to speculate on Gary Stevens's next movie. Go see "Seabiscuit" everyone!) Dorothy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 9 06:14:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 05:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: rcn.com!shad.nai From: "Family Account" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pattern Types and Sources? Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 08:32:12 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@rcn.com> References: <<016f01c35e1c$19010ba0$0200a8c0@BARBARA>> Precedence: bulk We called it oak tag years ago. It's heavy card stock paper. We buy it at a stores like Staples. I love that, using Glass Eye, I can just put it in my printer and get a numbered pattern out of it. I know a lot of people love mylar, however. P.S. Last year, for a few minutes, I spoke to Chris McCarron, who did the race design for "Seabiscuit" and rode "War Admiral". What a charming man. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "BAJABABA" To: "Family Account" Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Pattern Types and Sources? > Hi Dorothy, > > Saw "Seabiscuit"....the best! I just love crying in theatres!! > > What is "oak tag"??? > Guess you can tell I'm pretty new at this hobby. > Thanks, > Barb (in Arizona) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 9 09:10:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 08:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mindspring.com!johncarmichael From: "John Carmichael" To: "Richard Pauli" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ceiling window Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 08:21:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> References: <<5.2.1.1.2.20030809081806.019a5610@mail.speakeasy.net>> Precedence: bulk No, it works. I tried it. Try copying and pasting it into the URL address box. In case it doesn't, go to http://www.stainedartglass.com/index.html and click on Skylight menu button. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pauli" To: "John Carmichael" Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Ceiling window > John, > > > You can see them at: C:\Documents and Settings\Default\My > > Documents\Stained Glass Skylights.htm > > Your reference appears to be a document on your local machine. We need an > Internet location to see this. > > Richard Pauli > Seattle > > > > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 9 16:13:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 15:33:37 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: hisword.com!egriffithag From: "Emmett Griffith" To: tala@bungi.com, glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: V 1 A G R A - cheap Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:25:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@hisword.com> Precedence: bulk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 9 23:10:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: CREATIONmail.com!donacpayne_re From: "Dona C. Payne" To: gladys@bungi.com, glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: As low As $3 a dose Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 06:47:04 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@CREATIONmail.com> Precedence: bulk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 10:15:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mindspring.com!johncarmichael From: "John Carmichael" To: "Sundial List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01C35FEC.89871DC0" Subject: Poor Man's SGS Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:40:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C35FEC.89871DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All: I was thinking that somewhere long ago I have seen a fake, but nice = stained glass window. You know the tinted thin plastic (Mylar?) film that people use on their = home and car windows to cut down on light transmission? Well it's the = same thing, only it has a pretty stained glass patern in full color = printed on it. You buy a pattern that fits your window and you apply it = very easily to the inside of the window using some sort of liquid to = make it adhere, then you press the bubbles out, and it will last several = years. I was thinking that if you could get a pattern custom-made on this = plastic film, then you could have your own quick and easy poor man's = stained glass sundial! Tony's method of using a glass adhesive for the = gnomon would be the perfect solution to gnomon attachment because you = wouldn't have drill destructive holes the window. If you ever want to = get rid of it or change the pattern you just tear it off. Does anybody know where to begin investigating a supplier of custom = printed window film? I definitely want to try one myself. And I think = I'll use the free download of that wonderful stained glass drawing = program to make the drawing, Glass Eye 2000. Also, it'd be good practice for those of you who might build or design = a real one someday. This could be a business in itself. (But the glassers would hang you!) John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: = http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C35FEC.89871DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All:
 
I was thinking that somewhere long ago I have seen a = fake, but=20 nice stained glass window.
 
You know the tinted thin plastic (Mylar?) film = that=20 people use on their home and car windows to cut down on light=20 transmission?  Well it's the same thing, only it has a pretty = stained glass=20 patern in full color printed on it.  You buy a pattern that fits = your=20 window and you apply it very easily to the inside of the window using = some sort=20 of liquid to make it adhere, then you press the bubbles out, and it = will=20 last several years.
 
I was thinking that if you could get a pattern = custom-made on=20 this plastic film, then you could have your own quick and easy poor = man's=20 stained glass sundial! Tony's method of using a glass adhesive = for the=20 gnomon would be the perfect solution to gnomon = attachment because you=20 wouldn't have drill destructive holes the window. If you ever = want to=20 get rid of it or change the pattern you just tear it off.
 
Does anybody know where to begin investigating a = supplier of=20 custom printed window film?  I definitely want to try one = myself.  And=20 I think I'll use the free download of that wonderful stained glass = drawing=20 program to make the drawing, Glass Eye 2000.
 
Also, it'd  be good practice for those of you = who might=20 build or design a real one someday.
 
This could be a business in itself.  (But the = glassers=20 would hang you!)
 
John
 
 
 
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills = Dr.
Tucson=20 Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.c= om
Sundial=20 Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.co= m
Stained=20 Glass Sundials Website: http://advan= ceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C35FEC.89871DC0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 12:09:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:38:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: "John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow|" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Poor Man's SGS Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:30:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com>> Precedence: bulk --------------000307030902090709090400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: > Hello All: > > I was thinking that somewhere long ago I have seen a fake, but nice > stained glass window. > > You know the tinted thin plastic (Mylar?) film that people use on > their home and car windows to cut down on light transmission? Well > it's the same thing, only it has a pretty stained glass patern in full > color printed on it. You buy a pattern that fits your window and you > apply it very easily to the inside of the window using some sort of > liquid to make it adhere, then you press the bubbles out, and it will > last several years. > > I was thinking that if you could get a pattern custom-made on this > plastic film, then you could have your own quick and easy poor man's > stained glass sundial! Tony's method of using a glass adhesive for the > gnomon would be the perfect solution to gnomon attachment because you > wouldn't have drill destructive holes the window. If you ever want to > get rid of it or change the pattern you just tear it off. > > Does anybody know where to begin investigating a supplier of custom > printed window film? I definitely want to try one myself. And I > think I'll use the free download of that wonderful stained glass > drawing program to make the drawing, Glass Eye 2000. > > Also, it'd be good practice for those of you who might build or > design a real one someday. > > This could be a business in itself. (But the glassers would hang you!) > > John If you want to go fake like that, why not just print on transparency film - for overhead projectors? Even cheaper (cheesier) :-) - Cec --------------000307030902090709090400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote:
Hello All:
 
I was thinking that somewhere long ago I have seen a fake, but nice stained glass window.
 
You know the tinted thin plastic (Mylar?) film that people use on their home and car windows to cut down on light transmission?  Well it's the same thing, only it has a pretty stained glass patern in full color printed on it.  You buy a pattern that fits your window and you apply it very easily to the inside of the window using some sort of liquid to make it adhere, then you press the bubbles out, and it will last several years.
 
I was thinking that if you could get a pattern custom-made on this plastic film, then you could have your own quick and easy poor man's stained glass sundial! Tony's method of using a glass adhesive for the gnomon would be the perfect solution to gnomon attachment because you wouldn't have drill destructive holes the window. If you ever want to get rid of it or change the pattern you just tear it off.
 
Does anybody know where to begin investigating a supplier of custom printed window film?  I definitely want to try one myself.  And I think I'll use the free download of that wonderful stained glass drawing program to make the drawing, Glass Eye 2000.
 
Also, it'd  be good practice for those of you who might build or design a real one someday.
 
This could be a business in itself.  (But the glassers would hang you!)
 
John
If you want to go fake like that, why not just print on transparency film - for overhead projectors?  Even cheaper (cheesier) :-)   - Cec


--------------000307030902090709090400-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 14:12:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: TheBells.net!dbell From: Dave Bell To: John Carmichael Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Poor Man's SGS Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@TheBells.net> References: <<007b01c36027$5b0cc360$961d4bab@compaq>> Precedence: bulk On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, John Carmichael wrote: > You know the tinted thin plastic (Mylar?) film that people use on > their home and car windows to cut down on light transmission? Well > it's the same thing, only it has a pretty stained glass patern in full > color printed on it. You buy a pattern that fits your window and you > apply it very easily to the inside of the window using some sort of > liquid to make it adhere, then you press the bubbles out, and it will > last several years. Actuallly, I just saw some of this recently in a Michaels' craft store. I was thinking along similar lines, and looking for one that would be adaptable as a dial. (No luck, but there may be more...) > I was thinking that if you could get a pattern custom-made on this > plastic film, then you could have your own quick and easy poor man's > stained glass sundial! Tony's method of using a glass adhesive for the > gnomon would be the perfect solution to gnomon attachment because you > wouldn't have drill destructive holes the window. If you ever want to > get rid of it or change the pattern you just tear it off. I'm not sure how the adhesive system would work, here. If you attach the gnomon to the film, it would probably just peel it all off the glass. I'd tend to go with some means of mounting it to the frame. Small screw holes could later be filled and painted over. > Does anybody know where to begin investigating a supplier of custom > printed window film? I definitely want to try one myself. And I > think I'll use the free download of that wonderful stained glass > drawing program to make the drawing, Glass Eye 2000. How about color (long life inkjet) printing onto vinyl or acrylic film? Panels up to "A" size (8.5" x 11") could go directly on overhead projector film for printers. Dave 37.406847N 122.027872W (at work) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 15:10:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: 116technologies.com!sbarucco From: "Suzanna Barucco" To: "'suzanne albright'" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Two easy questions Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:21:26 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@116technologies.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@ptdprolog.net>> Precedence: bulk I am not a stained glass artisan, but I have looked at lots of windows as a conservator. Windows are typically painted on the inside-only silver stain is applied on the outside. In my experience, plexiglass should only be installed--and it is installed on the exterior side--if needed to prevent vandalism. Nobody has agreed on a formula for figuring out how much, but most agree that the plexi has to be vented. Installed incorrectly, it can cause more problems than it solves. Suzanna Barucco Associate 1:1:6 Technologies Inc. 103 North Jackson Street Media, PA 19063 ph 610-565-3340 fax 610-565-1192 sbarucco@116technologies.com -----Original Message----- From: suzanne albright [mailto:suzi1025@ptdprolog.net] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:50 PM To: Glass List Subject: Re: Two easy questions I can't answer the painting question, but yes, lots of windows are covered on the outside with glass or plexi. To reduce weather damage but particularly vandal damage, which would be tragic. Suzanne on 8/4/03 2:09 PM, John Carmichael at johncarmichael@mindspring.com wrote: > Good morning: > > I've got a couple of basic questions that I'm getting from sundial makers. > I'm wondering if you could be so kind to answer. You can tell I'm not a glass > artisan. > > 1. Aren't most stained glass windows painted on the outside instead of the > inside? > > 2. Are protective glass or acrylic covers on the outside of stained glass > windows very common? A Japanese glass artisan told me protective covers are > common in Japanese stained glass windows. > > thanks > > John > > John L. Carmichael Jr. > 925 E. Foothills Dr. > Tucson Arizona, USA > Tel: 520-696-1709 > Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com > Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com > Stained Glass Sundials Website: > http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 15:11:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: Glass List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Skylight Sundial Windows Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:21:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk yes it will sag, unless it's a very small panel. you can add some sort of reinforcement (rebar) to prevent this from occurring. i've done this in some skylights. regards, charlie cave creek, az -----Original Message----- From: John Carmichael [mailto:johncarmichael@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:02 AM To: Glass List Subject: Skylight Sundial Windows Hello Glassers. I was thinking that it might be possible to have a stained glass sundial window in the ceiling of a room. The metal rod gnomon would be attached to the outside of the window, then the window and gnomon would be protected by a protective bubble (plastic?) skylight on the roof. Wouldn't that be neat! Here's my big question: I've never seen a stained glass window mounted horizontally. Can it be done? Or will it's own weight cause it to sag. thanks, John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 16:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Two easy questions Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:20:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk 1: painted glass is usually done on the inside, for protection from the elements. look at any church window for examples 2: common for churches, but done only for protection from vandals or elements. usually done with a yellowing material (lexan of some type), so it doesn't look very good for too long, and can't be cleaned without scratching. regards, charlie cave creek, az -----Original Message----- From: John Carmichael [mailto:johncarmichael@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:10 AM To: Glass List Subject: Two easy questions Good morning: I've got a couple of basic questions that I'm getting from sundial makers. I'm wondering if you could be so kind to answer. You can tell I'm not a glass artisan. 1. Aren't most stained glass windows painted on the outside instead of the inside? 2. Are protective glass or acrylic covers on the outside of stained glass windows very common? A Japanese glass artisan told me protective covers are common in Japanese stained glass windows. thanks John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 16:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:33:15 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Poor Man's SGS Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:23:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk look up stained glass overlay in your yellow pages. it won't last for longer than a few years. i know when i create a piece of artwork, i'd like for it to last a bit longer than that. regards, charlie cave creek, az > -----Original Message----- > From: Cecily & Ralph Wood [mailto:cecnralph@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:30 AM > To: John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com > |Bungier/1.0-Allow| > Subject: Re: Poor Man's SGS > > > > --------------000307030902090709090400 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com > |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: > > > Hello All: > > > > I was thinking that somewhere long ago I have seen a fake, but nice > > stained glass window. > > > > You know the tinted thin plastic (Mylar?) film that people use on > > their home and car windows to cut down on light transmission? Well > > it's the same thing, only it has a pretty stained glass > patern in full > > color printed on it. You buy a pattern that fits your > window and you > > apply it very easily to the inside of the window using some sort of > > liquid to make it adhere, then you press the bubbles out, > and it will > > last several years. > > > > I was thinking that if you could get a pattern custom-made on this > > plastic film, then you could have your own quick and easy > poor man's > > stained glass sundial! Tony's method of using a glass > adhesive for the > > gnomon would be the perfect solution to gnomon attachment > because you > > wouldn't have drill destructive holes the window. If you > ever want to > > get rid of it or change the pattern you just tear it off. > > > > Does anybody know where to begin investigating a supplier of custom > > printed window film? I definitely want to try one myself. And I > > think I'll use the free download of that wonderful stained glass > > drawing program to make the drawing, Glass Eye 2000. > > > > Also, it'd be good practice for those of you who might build or > > design a real one someday. > > > > This could be a business in itself. (But the glassers > would hang you!) > > > > John > > If you want to go fake like that, why not just print on transparency > film - for overhead projectors? Even cheaper (cheesier) :-) - Cec > > > > --------------000307030902090709090400 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> > > > > John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| > wrote:
>
> > > >
Hello All:
>
 
>
I was thinking that somewhere long ago I have > seen a fake, but nice stained glass window.
>
 
>
You know the tinted thin plastic > (Mylar?) film > that people use on their home and car windows to cut down on light > transmission?  Well it's the same thing, only it has a > pretty stained > glass patern in full color printed on it.  You buy a > pattern that fits > your window and you apply it very easily to the inside of the window > using some sort of liquid to make it adhere, then you press the > bubbles out, and it will last several years.
>
 
>
I was thinking that if you could get a pattern > custom-made on this plastic film, then you could have your own quick > and easy poor man's stained glass sundial! Tony's method > of using a > glass adhesive for the gnomon would be the perfect > solution to gnomon > attachment because you wouldn't have drill > destructive holes the > window. If you ever want to get rid of it or change the pattern you > just tear it off.
>
 
>
Does anybody know where to begin investigating a > supplier of custom printed window film?  I definitely > want to try one > myself.  And I think I'll use the free download of that wonderful > stained glass drawing program to make the drawing, Glass Eye > 2000.
>
 
>
Also, it'd  be good practice for > those of you who > might build or design a real one someday.
>
 
>
This could be a business in > itself.  (But the > glassers would hang you!)
>
 
>
John
>
> If you want to go fake like that, why not just print on transparency > film - for overhead projectors?  Even cheaper (cheesier) > :-)   - Cec
>
>
> > > > --------------000307030902090709090400-- > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 16:13:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: cox.net!bobfuses From: "Bob D" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1399_01C3601D.9A4DE4A0" Subject: Poor Man's SG Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:31:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1399_01C3601D.9A4DE4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The plastic stuff is sold under the name of "Stained Glass Overlay" = which is a franchise. It has no depth or worthwhile refraction. It is = indeed a poor man's SG. Bob in 92026 The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine! ------=_NextPart_000_1399_01C3601D.9A4DE4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The plastic stuff is sold under the name of "Stained = Glass=20 Overlay" which is a franchise. It has no depth or worthwhile refraction. = It is=20 indeed a poor man's SG.
 
Bob in 92026
The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All=20 Mine!
------=_NextPart_000_1399_01C3601D.9A4DE4A0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 19:14:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: yahoo.com!texpenguin From: Sherry Greer To: GlassList Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: poor man's stained glass Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk You could also have custom 'static window clings' made, the type of plastic that just seals itself onto the glass by static electricity. You see these at holidays--you know, the snowflakes and penguins in store windows, etc. There are companies that print these custom, like for school sports teams and the like, who could probably print larger more complicated ones. They would dry out and get brittle over time, but they would also be very cheap, relatively speaking. BTW, I'm a Lead Sales Assoc. at Michael's and I've never seen the type of overlay that was mentioned. All I've seen are the 'faux' stained glass supplies--leading blanks, lead line paint, and translucent glass paint. You draw your design onto the blank with the lead paint, let it dry, fill in with the glass paint, let it dry, then peel and stick, just like the static clings. It's extremely limited, and the leading is hard to use. Also, several of the colors fade to clear over time. Sherry ===== Sherry Greer Lady Penguinevere Designs ladypenguin@tsgreer.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 11 20:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: "Suzanna Barucco sbarucco-at-116technologies.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow|" <2hfehjh7gv0t@sneakemail.com>, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Two easy questions Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:16:00 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@116technologies.com>> Precedence: bulk /The Standards and Guidelines for the Preservation of Historic Stained Glass/ $10 /Conservation and Restoration of Stained Glass: An Owner's Guide $6 The Stained Glass Association of America did a very interesting multi-year research project on preservation methods used in the last century and found a great many methods actually cooked the glass, the lead, or trapped moisture which then precipitated out in weathering, causing leaks and other problems and leading to earlier and more extensive restoration than would be normal. The reasons for not using lexan or plexiglass or whatever you want to call it are it is softer than glass and will get scratched by wind and other irritants becoming opaque, and it yellows. Because the research HAS been done and done well, it behooves anyone trying to preserve historic glass to do the homework. The first title listed above (available from the SGAA bookstore) is detailed and intended for the professional. The second title (also from their bookstore) is a nice pamphlet that I would encourage any sg window designer to include with the window itself as a normal part of the purchase. - Cec/ Suzanna Barucco sbarucco-at-116technologies.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: >I am not a stained glass artisan, but I have looked at lots of windows >as a conservator. >Windows are typically painted on the inside-only silver stain is applied >on the outside. > >In my experience, plexiglass should only be installed--and it is >installed on the exterior side--if needed to prevent vandalism. Nobody >has agreed on a formula for figuring out how much, but most agree that >the plexi has to be vented. Installed incorrectly, it can cause more >problems than it solves. > >Suzanna Barucco >Associate >1:1:6 Technologies Inc. >103 North Jackson Street >Media, PA 19063 >ph 610-565-3340 >fax 610-565-1192 >sbarucco@116technologies.com > > > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 13 07:09:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 06:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: "Sherry Greer texpenguin-at-yahoo.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow|" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: poor man's stained glass Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:39:48 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<20030813032036.15445.qmail@web10802.mail.yahoo.com>> Precedence: bulk --------------070302090405060504010202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes I think so - didn't see it in my Bungi folder - Cec Sherry Greer texpenguin-at-yahoo.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: >Yes, I did. Why, did I re: it to just you >instead? Someone asked Bungi where to get this >sort of thing. >Sherry > >--- CecWood wrote: > > >>Did you intend this to go to Bungi? - Cec >> >> >>Sherry Greer texpenguin-at-yahoo.com >>|Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: >> >> >> >>>You could also have custom 'static window >>> >>> >>clings' >> >> >>>made, the type of plastic that just seals >>> >>> >>itself >> >> >>>onto the glass by static electricity. You see >>>these at holidays--you know, the snowflakes >>> >>> >>and >> >> >>>penguins in store windows, etc. There are >>>companies that print these custom, like for >>>school sports teams and the like, who could >>>probably print larger more complicated ones. >>>They would dry out and get brittle over time, >>> >>> >>but >> >> >>>they would also be very cheap, relatively >>>speaking. BTW, I'm a Lead Sales Assoc. at >>>Michael's and I've never seen the type of >>> >>> >>overlay >> >> >>>that was mentioned. All I've seen are the >>> >>> >>'faux' >> >> >>>stained glass supplies--leading blanks, lead >>> >>> >>line >> >> >>>paint, and translucent glass paint. You draw >>>your design onto the blank with the lead >>> >>> >>paint, >> >> >>>let it dry, fill in with the glass paint, let >>> >>> >>it >> >> >>>dry, then peel and stick, just like the static >>>clings. It's extremely limited, and the >>> >>> >>leading >> >> >>>is hard to use. Also, several of the colors >>> >>> >>fade >> >> >>>to clear over time. >>>Sherry >>> >>> >>>===== >>>Sherry Greer >>>Lady Penguinevere Designs >>>ladypenguin@tsgreer.com >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web >>> >>> >>site design software >> >> >>>http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >>>---- >>>For subscription changes, please mail to: >>> >>> >>glass-request@bungi.com >> >> >>>To send to the list, please mail to: >>> >>> >>glass@bungi.com >> >> >>>Archives available at >>> >>> >>http://www.bungi.com/glass >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >===== >Sherry Greer >Lady Penguinevere Designs >ladypenguin@tsgreer.com > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > --------------070302090405060504010202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes I think so - didn't see it in my Bungi folder - Cec
Sherry Greer texpenguin-at-yahoo.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote:
Yes, I did.  Why, did I re: it to just you
instead?  Someone asked Bungi where to get this
sort of thing.
Sherry

--- CecWood <oo2kk6001@sneakemail.com> wrote:
  
Did you intend this to go to Bungi? - Cec


Sherry Greer texpenguin-at-yahoo.com
|Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote:

    
You could also have custom 'static window
      
clings'
    
made, the type of plastic that just seals
      
itself
    
onto the glass by static electricity.  You see
these at holidays--you know, the snowflakes
      
and
    
penguins in store windows, etc.  There are
companies that print these custom, like for
school sports teams and the like, who could
probably print larger more complicated ones. 
They would dry out and get brittle over time,
      
but
    
they would also be very cheap, relatively
speaking.  BTW, I'm a Lead Sales Assoc. at
Michael's and I've never seen the type of
      
overlay
    
that was mentioned.  All I've seen are the
      
'faux'
    
stained glass supplies--leading blanks, lead
      
line
    
paint, and translucent glass paint.  You draw
your design onto the blank with the lead
      
paint,
    
let it dry, fill in with the glass paint, let
      
it
    
dry, then peel and stick, just like the static
clings.  It's extremely limited, and the
      
leading
    
is hard to use.  Also, several of the colors
      
fade
    
to clear over time.
Sherry


=====
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Lady Penguinevere Designs
ladypenguin@tsgreer.com

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--------------070302090405060504010202-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 13 07:31:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 06:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Fwd: Searching] Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:42:23 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> Precedence: bulk I think she meant to post this on Bungi - Cec -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Searching Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:27:51 EDT From: SandraSmithGill-at-aol.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| <0ntdhjk83o0t@sneakemail.com> To: cecnralph@comcast.net I am trying to locate a vendor from whom I purchased raku pottery at an art fair in Santa Fe NM on 8/02/03. I cannot find their business card. The charge slip receipt is for Alcamo Studios in Lakeside NM. In my internet searches, I have brought up several pages from your glass-request with references to,from, or by Len and.or Lynn Alcamo. I think they are the artists for whom I am searching, but all my searches have failed to yield contact information. I understand you may not be able to give out information about your participants/members. However, if you know how to contact these artists, I would really appreciate your forwarding this to them, so they can contact me. Thankyou. Sandra Smith-Gill ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 16 03:16:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 03:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!UserDusty From: UserDusty@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_155.22d7faf0.2c6f5a4f_boundary" Subject: Re: Poor Mans Stained Glass Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 05:58:39 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_155.22d7faf0.2c6f5a4f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! All, Been lurking for a while. I say this mylar stuff for the first time last year at a craft show. It didn't look to bad but they wanted about the same money as it would cost to have an actual panel done. I'm just guessing on the size, but I'm not to far off. I think for a 12" x 24" Panel they wanted $250.00 for it. If I'm going to pay that much for it why not go for the real thing. Felt like a slap in the face to an artisan who develops and builds a design for a customer. Just my opinion. Ken O. Decorative Glass --part1_155.22d7faf0.2c6f5a4f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! All,

Been lurking for a while.  I say this mylar stuff for the first time la= st year at a craft show.  It didn't look to bad but they wanted about t= he same money as it would cost to have an actual panel done.  I'm just=20= guessing on the size, but I'm not to far off.  I think for a 12" x = ; 24" Panel they wanted $250.00 for it.  If I'm going to pay that much=20= for it why not go for the real thing.  Felt like a slap in the face to=20= an artisan who develops and builds a design for a customer. Just my opinion.=

Ken O.
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How can a sheet of plastic cost so much I wonder? = But I still want to practice with the plastic to hone my Glass Eye 2000 = designing skills and for stained glass sundial testing. Maybe I'll just = use cheaper acetate for my experiments. Next year in Oxford, we are holding the first International conference = of Sundial Societies. We are putting together a display table devoted = to stained glass sundials. One of my British colleagues had the idea of = copying photos of historical sundial windows onto clear acetate and then = putting them on a light box for public viewing. We think that this = would be the best way for people to "experience" a stained glass sundial = if the actual window is not available. Do you guys do this in your = conferences? thanks John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: = http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ----- Original Message -----=20 From: UserDusty@aol.com=20 To: glass@bungi.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Poor Mans Stained Glass Hi! All, Been lurking for a while. I saw this mylar stuff for the first time = last year at a craft show. It didn't look to bad but they wanted about = the same money as it would cost to have an actual panel done. I'm just = guessing on the size, but I'm not to far off. I think for a 12" x 24" = Panel they wanted $250.00 for it. If I'm going to pay that much for it = why not go for the real thing. Felt like a slap in the face to an = artisan who develops and builds a design for a customer. Just my = opinion. Ken O. 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Hi Ken:
 
I agree with you.  How can a sheet of plastic = cost so=20 much I wonder?  But I still want to practice = with the=20 plastic to hone my Glass Eye 2000 designing skills and for stained glass = sundial=20 testing.  Maybe I'll just use cheaper acetate for my=20 experiments.
 
Next year in Oxford, we are holding the first = International=20 conference of Sundial Societies.  We are putting together a display = table=20 devoted to stained glass sundials.  One of my British colleagues = had the=20 idea of copying photos of historical sundial windows onto clear acetate = and then=20 putting them on a light box for public viewing.  We think that this = would=20 be the best way for people to "experience" a stained glass sundial if = the actual=20 window is not available.  Do you guys do this in your=20 conferences?
 
thanks
 
John
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills = Dr.
Tucson=20 Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com
Sundial=20 Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com
Stained Glass=20 Sundials Website: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 UserDusty@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 = 2:58=20 AM
Subject: Re: Poor Mans Stained=20 Glass

Hi! = All,

Been lurking=20 for a while.  I saw this mylar stuff for the first time last year = at a=20 craft show.  It didn't look to bad but they wanted about the same = money=20 as it would cost to have an actual panel done.  I'm just guessing = on the=20 size, but I'm not to far off.  I think for a 12" x  24" = Panel they=20 wanted $250.00 for it.  If I'm going to pay that much for it why = not go=20 for the real thing.  Felt like a slap in the face to an artisan = who=20 develops and builds a design for a customer. Just my = opinion.

Ken=20 O.
Decorative Glass = ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C363C4.E95E7F50-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 16 23:12:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: "John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow|" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Poor Mans Stained Glass Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 01:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com>> Precedence: bulk --------------030509000204060504090404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For practice with Glass Eye and for display, I still think printing to transparencies is the simplest and cheapest, and then use an overhead projector for display. Transparencies are not as cheap as paper, but still not all that expensive and certainly are easy to do since almost any ink jet or color laser printer can print on them. - Cec John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote: > Hi Ken: > > I agree with you. How can a sheet of plastic cost so much I wonder? > But I still want to practice with the plastic to hone my Glass Eye > 2000 designing skills and for stained glass sundial testing. Maybe > I'll just use cheaper acetate for my experiments. > > Next year in Oxford, we are holding the first International conference > of Sundial Societies. We are putting together a display table devoted > to stained glass sundials. One of my British colleagues had the idea > of copying photos of historical sundial windows onto clear acetate and > then putting them on a light box for public viewing. We think that > this would be the best way for people to "experience" a stained glass > sundial if the actual window is not available. Do you guys do this in > your conferences? > > thanks > > John > > John L. Carmichael Jr. > 925 E. Foothills Dr. > Tucson Arizona, USA > Tel: 520-696-1709 > Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com > > Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com > Stained Glass Sundials Website: > http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* UserDusty@aol.com > *To:* glass@bungi.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:58 AM > *Subject:* Re: Poor Mans Stained Glass > > Hi! All, > > Been lurking for a while. I saw this mylar stuff for the first > time last year at a craft show. It didn't look to bad but they > wanted about the same money as it would cost to have an actual > panel done. I'm just guessing on the size, but I'm not to far > off. I think for a 12" x 24" Panel they wanted $250.00 for it. > If I'm going to pay that much for it why not go for the real > thing. Felt like a slap in the face to an artisan who develops > and builds a design for a customer. Just my opinion. > > Ken O. > Decorative Glass > --------------030509000204060504090404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For practice with Glass Eye and for display, I still think printing to transparencies is the simplest and cheapest, and then use an overhead projector for display. Transparencies are not as cheap as paper, but still not all that expensive and certainly are easy to do since almost any ink jet or color laser printer can print on them.  - Cec

John Carmichael johncarmichael-at-mindspring.com |Bungier/1.0-Allow| wrote:
Hi Ken:
 
I agree with you.  How can a sheet of plastic cost so much I wonder?  But I still want to practice with the plastic to hone my Glass Eye 2000 designing skills and for stained glass sundial testing.  Maybe I'll just use cheaper acetate for my experiments.
 
Next year in Oxford, we are holding the first International conference of Sundial Societies.  We are putting together a display table devoted to stained glass sundials.  One of my British colleagues had the idea of copying photos of historical sundial windows onto clear acetate and then putting them on a light box for public viewing.  We think that this would be the best way for people to "experience" a stained glass sundial if the actual window is not available.  Do you guys do this in your conferences?
 
thanks
 
John
 
John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com
Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com
Stained Glass Sundials Website: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Poor Mans Stained Glass

Hi! All,

Been lurking for a while.  I saw this mylar stuff for the first time last year at a craft show.  It didn't look to bad but they wanted about the same money as it would cost to have an actual panel done.  I'm just guessing on the size, but I'm not to far off.  I think for a 12" x  24" Panel they wanted $250.00 for it.  If I'm going to pay that much for it why not go for the real thing.  Felt like a slap in the face to an artisan who develops and builds a design for a customer. Just my opinion.

Ken O.
Decorative Glass

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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3666B.109EEB10-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 15:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="RAK15681.1061328644/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308192130.RAK15681@rly-xn02.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --RAK15681.1061328644/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:29:56 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xn02.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --RAK15681.1061328644/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xn02.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; erhodes110@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xn02.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:30:44 -0400 (EDT) --RAK15681.1061328644/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xn02.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN26-6323f4296c9340; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:29:45 2000 From: To: Subject: Re: Your application Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:37:11 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_25824A99" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308191729.6323f4296c9340@rly-xn02.mx.aol.com> --RAK15681.1061328644/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 15:37:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="RAG18016.1061326920/rly-xn04.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308192102.RAG18016@rly-xn04.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --RAG18016.1061326920/rly-xn04.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:01:33 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xn04.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --RAG18016.1061326920/rly-xn04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xn04.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; userdusty@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xn04.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:02:00 -0400 (EDT) --RAG18016.1061326920/rly-xn04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xn04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN43-6433f42901b3bd; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:01:15 -0400 From: To: Subject: Your details Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:08:42 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_25683449" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308191701.6433f42901b3bd@rly-xn04.mx.aol.com> --RAG18016.1061326920/rly-xn04.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 15:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="RAB25539.1061327111/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308192105.RAB25539@rly-xb03.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --RAB25539.1061327111/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:04:35 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xb02.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --RAB25539.1061327111/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xb03.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; gailchat1@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xb02.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:05:11 -0400 (EDT) --RAB25539.1061327111/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xb03.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB36-9c3f4290e11d4; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:04:34 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: Details Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:12:00 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_256B3A36" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308191704.9c3f4290e11d4@rly-xb03.mx.aol.com> --RAB25539.1061327111/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 16:40:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:55:20 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="RAH21516.1061329352/rly-xh06.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308192142.RAH21516@rly-xh06.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --RAH21516.1061329352/rly-xh06.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:41:55 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xh03.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --RAH21516.1061329352/rly-xh06.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xh06.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; beveler4@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xh03.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:42:32 -0400 (EDT) --RAH21516.1061329352/rly-xh06.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xh06.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXH65-70f3f42999d319; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:41:49 -0400 From: To: Subject: Thank you! Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:49:16 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_258D5855" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308191741.70f3f42999d319@rly-xh06.mx.aol.com> --RAH21516.1061329352/rly-xh06.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 18:42:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Seahorse73 From: Seahorse73@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6a.3434a0a1.2c741170_boundary" Subject: Please remove me from your list Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:49:04 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_6a.3434a0a1.2c741170_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit seahorse73@aol.com I've been getting mail all day regarding fatal errors, I have enough mail, don't need that too! --part1_6a.3434a0a1.2c741170_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable seahorse73@aol.com

I've been getting mail all day regarding fatal errors, I have enough mail, d= on't need that too! --part1_6a.3434a0a1.2c741170_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 18:42:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="TAA13767.1061336877/rly-xb06.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308192347.TAA13767@rly-xb06.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --TAA13767.1061336877/rly-xb06.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:47:45 -0400 (EDT) from mail07c.vwh1.net [207.201.152.68] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xb01.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --TAA13767.1061336877/rly-xb06.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xb06.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; jdtorrey@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xb01.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:47:57 -0400 (EDT) --TAA13767.1061336877/rly-xb06.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from mail07c.vwh1.net (mail07c.vwh1.net [207.201.152.68]) by rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB66-6c83f42b7202dd; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:47:44 -0400 Received: from dnvr-dsl-gw9-c171.dnvr.uswest.net (63.227.46.171) by mail07c.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.86vs) with SMTP id 3-0392646843 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:47:25 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: Re: Approved Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:31 --0600 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_001F629B" X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-AOL-IP: 207.201.152.68 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308191947.6c83f42b7202dd@rly-xb06.mx.aol.com> --TAA13767.1061336877/rly-xb06.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 18:44:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Seahorse73 From: Seahorse73@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_boundary" Subject: Fwd: Disallowed attachment type found in sent message "Thank you!" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:49:35 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_alt_boundary" --part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here comes another one. --part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here comes another one. --part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_alt_boundary-- --part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v95.12) with ESMTP id MAILINZD42-3ad3f426d73342; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:34:01 -0400 Received: from daver.bungi.com (daver.bungi.com [207.126.97.2]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZD41-3ad3f426d73342; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:33:48 -0400 Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: "System Anti-Virus Administrator" To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Subject: Disallowed attachment type found in sent message "Thank you!" Date: 19 Aug 2003 16:03:25 -0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@ywing.primedia.com> Precedence: bulk X-AOL-IP: 207.126.97.2 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Attention: glass@bungi.com A Disallowed attachment type was found in an Email message you sent. This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message reaching its destination. The Disallowed attachment type was reported to be: PIF files not allowed per Company security policy Please contact your I.T support personnel with any queries regarding this policy. Your message was sent with the following envelope: MAIL FROM: glass@bungi.com RCPT TO: JMASK@ABOUT-INC.COM ... and with the following headers: --- MAILFROM: glass@bungi.com Received: from unknown (HELO D18GPC11) (67.168.138.104) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Aug 2003 16:03:20 -0000 From: To: Subject: Thank you! Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 9:06:42 --0700 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_00AB7436" --- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass --part1_181.1f5ceda3.2c74118f_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 20:50:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="UAF18085.1061337746/rly-yc03.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200002.UAF18085@rly-yc03.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --UAF18085.1061337746/rly-yc03.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:01:56 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-yc03.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --UAF18085.1061337746/rly-yc03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-yc03.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; mguerrie@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-yc03.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:02:26 -0400 (EDT) --UAF18085.1061337746/rly-yc03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC36-1c83f42ba723a3; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:01:55 -0400 From: To: Subject: Your details Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:09:21 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_260D9808" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308192001.1c83f42ba723a3@rly-yc03.mx.aol.com> --UAF18085.1061337746/rly-yc03.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 20:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200102.VAC17074@rly-xd04.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xd04.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xd04.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; gailchat1@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xd04.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:02:34 -0400 (EDT) --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xd04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXD44-11c3f42c8842d6; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:57 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: Your application Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:09:22 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_26448D03" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308192101.11c3f42c8842d6@rly-xd04.mx.aol.com> --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 20:51:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="VAC04505.1061341469/rly-yb05.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200104.VAC04505@rly-yb05.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --VAC04505.1061341469/rly-yb05.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:04:04 -0400 (EDT) from st-mail2.yahoo.com [216.136.224.113] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-yb02.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --VAC04505.1061341469/rly-yb05.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-yb05.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; objectsofenvy@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-yb02.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT) --VAC04505.1061341469/rly-yb05.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from mail101.store.yahoo.com (st-mail2.yahoo.com [216.136.224.113]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB59-1a33f42c9032ad; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:04:03 -0400 Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by mail101.store.yahoo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7K1405Y013833 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from GLASS@BUNGI.COM) Message-Id: <200308200104.h7K1405Y013833@mail101.store.yahoo.com> From: To: Subject: Re: Thank you! Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:11:26 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_26467107" X-AOL-IP: 216.136.224.113 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 --VAC04505.1061341469/rly-yb05.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 20:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200102.VAC17074@rly-xd04.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xd04.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xd04.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; gailchat1@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xd04.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:02:34 -0400 (EDT) --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xd04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXD44-11c3f42c8842d6; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:57 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: Your application Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:09:22 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_26448D03" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308192101.11c3f42c8842d6@rly-xd04.mx.aol.com> --VAC17074.1061341354/rly-xd04.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 22:40:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="WAF00065.1061348228/rly-xl03.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200257.WAF00065@rly-xl03.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --WAF00065.1061348228/rly-xl03.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:56:34 -0400 (EDT) from nts-179.11-185-64.nts-online.net [64.185.11.179] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xl01.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --WAF00065.1061348228/rly-xl03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xl03.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; normsc0600@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xl01.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:57:07 -0400 (EDT) --WAF00065.1061348228/rly-xl03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from computer (nts-179.11-185-64.nts-online.net [64.185.11.179]) by rly-xl03.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXL310-5c83f42e35b168; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:56:28 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: My details Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:56:27 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_012C9BBF" X-AOL-IP: 64.185.11.179 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308192256.5c83f42e35b168@rly-xl03.mx.aol.com> --WAF00065.1061348228/rly-xl03.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 19 22:44:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="XAB15681.1061349092/rly-xb04.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200311.XAB15681@rly-xb04.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --XAB15681.1061349092/rly-xb04.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:11:15 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xb03.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --XAB15681.1061349092/rly-xb04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xb04.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; mikie771@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xb03.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:11:32 -0400 (EDT) --XAB15681.1061349092/rly-xb04.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB45-a53f42e6d22a1; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:11:14 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:18:40 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_26BAEA97" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308192311.a53f42e6d22a1@rly-xb04.mx.aol.com> --XAB15681.1061349092/rly-xb04.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 01:57:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="BAD13811.1061356598/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200516.BAD13811@rly-xb03.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --BAD13811.1061356598/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:16:20 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xb02.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --BAD13811.1061356598/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xb03.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; wayside53@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xb02.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:16:38 -0400 (EDT) --BAD13811.1061356598/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xb03.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB310-a03f430421335; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:16:17 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: Thank you! Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 0:23:43 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_272D67B0" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308200116.a03f430421335@rly-xb03.mx.aol.com> --BAD13811.1061356598/rly-xb03.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 04:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="BAF17819.1061358794/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200553.BAF17819@rly-xn02.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --BAF17819.1061358794/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:38 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xn01.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --BAF17819.1061358794/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xn02.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; blued5@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xn01.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:53:14 -0400 (EDT) --BAF17819.1061358794/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xn02.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN22-62e3f430ca3284; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:36 2000 From: To: Subject: Re: Thank you! Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 1:00:01 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_274EA4AF" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308200152.62e3f430ca3284@rly-xn02.mx.aol.com> --BAF17819.1061358794/rly-xn02.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 05:32:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virus Warning Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200644.AVJ59473@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk The message you emailed to 20support@landmarkdata.com, dated 08/20/03 02:44:17, contains the W32/Sobig-F virus in the application.pif attachment. Action taken: deleted ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 05:32:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="BAA15778.1061358770/rly-yc06.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200552.BAA15778@rly-yc06.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --BAA15778.1061358770/rly-yc06.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:25 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-yc01.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --BAA15778.1061358770/rly-yc06.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-yc06.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; borrowers@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-yc01.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:50 -0400 (EDT) --BAA15778.1061358770/rly-yc06.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-yc06.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC67-6ed3f430c98276; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:52:24 -0400 From: To: Subject: Re: That movie Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 0:59:49 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_274E76B8" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308200152.6ed3f430c98276@rly-yc06.mx.aol.com> --BAA15778.1061358770/rly-yc06.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 05:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: System Administrator To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C366D9.6B358C96" Subject: Undeliverable: Re: That movie Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:10:48 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@dexmedia.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C366D9.6B358C96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Your message To: igcs@qwest.com Subject: Re: That movie Sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:12:43 -0600 did not reach the following recipient(s): IGCS on Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:10:48 -0600 The recipient was unavailable to take delivery of the message The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=usw;l=DENIMS010308200510P78YK9MA MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:NORTHAMERICA:DENEX01 ------_=_NextPart_000_01C366D9.6B358C96 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Message-ID: <200308200510.h7K5Acav004513@uswgco33.uswest.com> From: glass@bungi.com To: igcs@qwest.com Subject: Re: That movie Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:12:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C366D9.6B358C96" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C366D9.6B358C96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please see the attached file for details. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C366D9.6B358C96 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT449897.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT449897.txt" [Filename: your_document.pif, Content-Type: application/octet-stream] One or more of the attachment file(s) in this message have been = removed. Attachments of the file types .hta,.ceo,.vbe, .rar, .bat, = .scr, .pif, .exe, .com, .vbs, .shs, .asf and .dll may not be sent or = received via Qwest corporate e-mail due to virus risks. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C366D9.6B358C96-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C366D9.6B358C96-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 05:44:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) Sender: owner-glass X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Content Filter <> To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Undeliverable message returned to sender Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:26:23 +0000 (UCT) Message-ID: <20030820062623.54A3A3337DB@mail5-ny2-R.bigfish.com> Precedence: bulk This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. Delivery failed for the following recipients(s): suggestions@maximizer.com The message you sent contained an attachment which the recipient has chosen to block. Usually these sort of attachments are blocked to prevent malicious software from being sent to the recipient in question. The name(s) of the blocked file(s) follow: movie0045.pif To send this file, please place it in a compressed archive using WinZip (http://www.winzip.com) or the archive software of your choice. ----- Original Message Header ----- Received: by mail5-ny2 (MessageSwitch) id 1061360783301105_15778; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:26:23 +0000 (UCT) Received: from computer (nts-179.11-185-64.nts-online.net [64.185.11.179]) by mail5-ny2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D9E7833365F for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:26:11 +0000 (UCT) From: To: Subject: Re: Re: My details Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 1:26:11 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_01ECA213" Message-Id: <20030820062611.D9E7833365F@mail5-ny2.bigfish.com> ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 06:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 05:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="AVN95692.1061361861/mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200644.AVN95692@mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --AVN95692.1061361861/mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com The original message was received at Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:21 -0400 (EDT) from [216.248.176.137] ----- The following addresses had permanent delivery errors ----- <20support@landmarkdata.com> --AVN95692.1061361861/mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; landmarkdata.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; 20support@landmarkdata.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: X-Unix; mirapoint Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.1.1 User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:21 -0400 (EDT) --AVN95692.1061361861/mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com ([216.248.176.137]) by mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AVN95689; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BBELLITT (dnvr-dsl-gw9-c171.dnvr.uswest.net [63.227.46.171]) by mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AVJ59431; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308200644.AVJ59431@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com> From: To: <20support@landmarkdata.com> Subject: Re: Re: My details Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 0:46:10 --0600 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MIRAPOINT_PART2_3f4318c1" X-Mirapoint-Virus: VIRUSDELETED; host=mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com; attachment=[2.2]; virus=W32/Sobig-F --AVN95692.1061361861/mailsvr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 06:30:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="CAC03196.1061361107/rly-xn03.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200631.CAC03196@rly-xn03.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --CAC03196.1061361107/rly-xn03.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:31:33 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xn04.mail.aol.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. 554 ... Service unavailable --CAC03196.1061361107/rly-xn03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xn03.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; sophisir@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xn04.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has not been sent. Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:31:47 -0400 (EDT) --CAC03196.1061361107/rly-xn03.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xn03.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN35-63b3f4315c11e5; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:31:30 2000 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: My details Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 1:38:55 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_277240FE" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308200231.63b3f4315c11e5@rly-xn03.mx.aol.com> --CAC03196.1061361107/rly-xn03.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 06:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 05:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: newidea.atis.net!postmaster From: postmaster@newidea.atis.net To: glass@bungi.com Subject: VIRUS IN YOUR MAIL Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:36:16 -0400 Message-ID: <200308200436.h7K4aGes025868@newidea.atis.net> Precedence: bulk V I R U S A L E R T Our viruschecker found the W32/Sobig.f@MM virus(es) in your email to the following recipient(s): -> yostsw Please check your system for viruses, or ask your system administrator to do so. For your reference, here are the headers from your email: ------------------------- BEGIN HEADERS ----------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from BBELLITT (dnvr-dsl-gw9-c171.dnvr.uswest.net [63.227.46.171]) by newidea.atis.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h7K4ZrAP025546 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200308200435.h7K4ZrAP025546@newidea.atis.net> From: To: Subject: Re: That movie Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:40:27 --0600 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_0129BE2B" -------------------------- END HEADERS ------------------------------ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 07:35:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="DAI00651.1061363919/rly-xi02.mx.aol.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200718.DAI00651@rly-xi02.mx.aol.com> Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message --DAI00651.1061363919/rly-xi02.mx.aol.com The original message was received at Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:18:14 -0400 (EDT) from [209.184.126.66] *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to air-xi04.mail.aol.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 ... User unknown --DAI00651.1061363919/rly-xi02.mx.aol.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xi02.mx.aol.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; thompkl@aol.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xi04.mail.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:18:39 -0400 (EDT) --DAI00651.1061363919/rly-xi02.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Received: from MONICAP ([209.184.126.66]) by rly-xi02.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXI26-4ca3f43209d220; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:17:49 -0400 From: To: Subject: Your details Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 2:25:14 --0500 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_279CAA71" X-AOL-IP: 209.184.126.66 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Message-ID: <200308200318.4ca3f43209d220@rly-xi02.mx.aol.com> --DAI00651.1061363919/rly-xi02.mx.aol.com-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 07:38:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virus Warning Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308200746.BGX89924@mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk The message you emailed to 20support@landmarkdata.com, dated 08/20/03 03:46:21, contains the W32/Sobig-F virus in the thank_you.pif attachment. Action taken: deleted ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 08:39:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: AFRC.AF.MIL!NAVMSE-FSYKLF03 From: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-FSYKLF03 To: "'Glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C366F9.18617B7C" Subject: Norton AntiVirus detected a virus in a message you sent. The inf Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:57:33 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@AFRC.AF.MIL> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C366F9.18617B7C Content-Type: text/plain Recipient of the infected attachment: AFRC/DP SEU\Inbox Subject of the message: Your details One or more attachments were deleted Attachment document_9446.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Sobig.F@mm was found. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C366F9.18617B7C Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IiMIAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQWAAwAOAAAA0wcIABQABAA5ACEAAwBXAQEggAMADgAAANMHCAAU AAQAOQAiAAMAWAEBCYABACEAAABBMTFCNzdBMkI2QzhBRTRGOTM4QkQxMjZGOTNFRkFGMwBzBwEE gAEAXwAAAE5vcnRvbiBBbnRpVmlydXMgZGV0ZWN0ZWQgYSB2aXJ1cyBpbiBhIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91 IHNlbnQuICBUaGUgaW5mZWN0ZWQgYXR0YWNobWVudCB3YXMgZGVsZXRlZC4AHyIBDYAEAAIAAAAC AAIAAQOQBgC8BQAAIQAAAAIBCRABAAAAPAEAADgBAAC7AQAATFpGdX16uM6HAAoBDQNDdGV4dAH3 /wKkA+QF6wKDAFAC8wa0AoMmMgPFAgBjaArAc2XYdDAgBxMCgH0KgAjP/wnZAoAKhAs3EsIB0Afw BZAHBSAIkAIwIG9mIHRoaGUgC4BmBZAO8GRsIGECQADQaAeAAjA6AiAT4EZSQy9EUIEGAEVVXFxJ bgbghngKowqAU3ViahkRQxhmB4FzYWdlGhFZfQhhIAEAAZADEBMwG3RPfm4YwAWxBGAVQBlpBCB3 dwSQGMABAGwTsAmACqMKRxohGYcdoG9jdRnSX2A5NDQ2LhgQGIB36mEEIEQgdCACEAXAGKKNAhBs FNAD8G5nIBVAcyMwAiBzOhtlGiAaIFYIaXJ1BCBXMzIuAFNvYmlnLkZADG1tIxMCEHVuZC4FG2V9 KKADAP0/5AQAAEAAOQAwz2MY+WbDAQMA8T8JBAAAHgAxQAEAAAAQAAAATkFWTVNFLUZTWUtMRjAz AAMAGkAAAAAAHgAwQAEAAAAQAAAATkFWTVNFLUZTWUtMRjAzAAMAGUAAAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAA AcNm+RhjKW1MpJ9jTKewBOxOy8d+2wAAAwAmAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAB4AcAABAAAAXwAAAE5vcnRv biBBbnRpVmlydXMgZGV0ZWN0ZWQgYSB2aXJ1cyBpbiBhIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91IHNlbnQuICBUaGUg aW5mZWN0ZWQgYXR0YWNobWVudCB3YXMgZGVsZXRlZC4AAAsA8hABAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAoAAAAYz1V UzthPURNUztsPUZTWUtMRjAzLTAzMDgyMDA4NTczM1otMzU5AAIB+T8BAAAAWAAAAAAAAADcp0DI wEIQGrS5CAArL+GCAQAAAAAAAAAvTz1PUkdBTklaQVRJT04vT1U9SFEgQUZSQy9DTj1SRUNJUElF TlRTL0NOPU5BVk1TRS1GU1lLTEYwMwAeAPg/AQAAACQAAABOQVYgZm9yIE1pY3Jvc29mdCBFeGNo YW5nZS1GU1lLTEYwMwAeADhAAQAAABAAAABOQVZNU0UtRlNZS0xGMDMAAgH7PwEAAABYAAAAAAAA ANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPU9SR0FOSVpBVElPTi9PVT1IUSBBRlJDL0NOPVJF Q0lQSUVOVFMvQ049TkFWTVNFLUZTWUtMRjAzAB4A+j8BAAAAJAAAAE5BViBmb3IgTWljcm9zb2Z0 IEV4Y2hhbmdlLUZTWUtMRjAzAB4AOUABAAAAEAAAAE5BVk1TRS1GU1lLTEYwMwBAAAcwfHthGPlm wwFAAAgwAFN5GPlmwwEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgAdDgEAAABfAAAATm9ydG9uIEFudGlWaXJ1 cyBkZXRlY3RlZCBhIHZpcnVzIGluIGEgbWVzc2FnZSB5b3Ugc2VudC4gIFRoZSBpbmZlY3RlZCBh dHRhY2htZW50IHdhcyBkZWxldGVkLgAAHgA1EAEAAABAAAAAPDBCNjEzREUwQ0UyQkZDNDVBQTUy RjA1OTMxNUM5QzEyMDE0QUY1NzBAZnN5a2xmMDMuYWZyYy5hZi5taWw+AAsAKQAAAAAACwAjAAAA AAADAAYQRaYViwMABxDBAAAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAQAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAFJFQ0lQSUVOVE9G VEhFSU5GRUNURURBVFRBQ0hNRU5UOkFGUkMvRFBTRVVJTkJPWFNVQkpFQ1RPRlRIRU1FU1NBR0U6 WU9VUkRFVEFJTFNPTkVPUk1PUkVBVFRBQ0hNRU5UU1cAAAAAAgF/AAEAAABAAAAAPDBCNjEzREUw Q0UyQkZDNDVBQTUyRjA1OTMxNUM5QzEyMDE0QUY1NzBAZnN5a2xmMDMuYWZyYy5hZi5taWw+AH1s ------_=_NextPart_000_01C366F9.18617B7C-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 20 08:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: ruizhomes.com!NAVMSE-SRV From: "NAVMSE-SRV" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Norton AntiVirus detected a virus in a message you sent. The infected attachment was deleted. Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@ruizhomes.com> Precedence: bulk Recipient of the infected attachment: SRV, First Storage Group\Mailbox = Store (SRV), Rodolfo De Hoyos/Inbox Subject of the message: Re: Wicked screensaver One or more attachments were deleted Attachment application.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Sobig.F@mm was found. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 14:56:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: thewilliammanncompany.com!kmp From: "Kristin Prizer" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: remove me from list Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:16:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@thewilliammanncompany.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@optonline.net>> Precedence: bulk Please remove me as well. Thank you, Kristin -----Original Message----- From: Paula Stark [mailto:pstark26@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:04 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: remove me from list Remove me from list ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 14:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:03:39 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: judicial.state.co.us!NAIJUDICIALMAILJUD2 From: "GroupShield for Exchange (MAILJUD2)" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C36827.3EBC0AB0" Subject: ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OA860_1061499626_MAILJUD2_1 wa Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:00:26 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C36827.3EBC0AB0 Content-Type: text/plain Action Taken: The attachment was quarantined from the message and replaced with a text file informing the recipient of the action taken. To: cheryl.taylor@judicial.state.co.us From: glass@bungi.com Sent: -741154304,29583348 Subject: Re: Your application Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: your_document.pif File: your_document.pif Infected? Yes Repaired? No Blocked? No Deleted? 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C3681F.BEF18500 Content-Type: text/plain Action Taken: The attachment was quarantined from the message and replaced with a text file informing the recipient of the action taken. To: cheryl.taylor@judicial.state.co.us From: glass@bungi.com Sent: 1498584064,29583341 Subject: Re: Re: My details Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: document_9446.pif File: document_9446.pif Infected? Yes Repaired? No Blocked? No Deleted? 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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:04:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = glass@bungi.com Recipient(s) = Ken Sage Subject = [SPAM:SA] Re: Re: My details Scanning time = 08/21/2003 15:04:28 Action on file blocking: The attachment document_all.pif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 15:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: inklineglobal.com!support From: inKline Global Support Auto Reply To: glass@bungi.com Subject: RE: Your Support Inquiries -- Attention Required Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: <200308212105.h7LL5YN00758@inklineglobal.com> References: <<200308212105.h7LL5O300541@inklineglobal.com>> Precedence: bulk Dear Customer, This is an auto-reply for the support e-mail you have sent to us at inKline Global, Inc. If you have written to us at this e-mail address, please resubmit your questions at http://www.inklineglobal.com/support/ as we no longer accept e-mail questions due to incomplete information furnished by our customers. Our web based support form will help streamline the information required by our technical support team in order to serve you promptly. Alternatively, please refer to one of the FAQs listed below. Our FAQs cover most of the commonly asked questions and they are updated frequently. You can access our FAQ page at http://www.inklineglobal.com/support/ For sales and registration related matters, the FAQ is located at http://www.inklineglobal.com/support/ Thank you. Technical Support Team inKline Global, Inc. http://www.inklineglobal.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 15:34:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry Phibbs To: bungi glasss discussion list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Please do NOT remove me! Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:58:18 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> Precedence: bulk Dave and Glenna.. I understand the incredible volume of virus laden emails and I also understand that such viruses glean names from other's address books, so the viruses appear to be sent from a "legitimate" source, even though they're not. I've had some 260 of such emails in the past few days.. many were notifications that some email that I'd sent contained these ".pif" attachments.. but since I run an arcane Mac, there is absolutely NO way those emails could have legitimately come from me. What I've also noticed.. is just how many people on the bungi list, are asking to be remved.. evidently in the false belief that all of this garbage is somehow your fault. Of course the ones that I've seen, have addressed to the entire group.. not to the proper email address to unsubscribe. Well, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm no wuss.. I've got a lot of patience, as most glass artists must have. While I don't post here regularly.. I admire the sense of "community" that you folks have helped foster, and I'm not going to allow these virtual terrorists to affect my association with said community. This exodus of "sunshine patriots" bothers me considerably, and I wanted to let you know that regardless of the hassles, I still support this discussion group, and hold you and Glenna in good standings, as I do anyone who is determined to "stay the course" in spite of some minor inconveniences. Peace -Gerry Phibbs, IGGA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 15:39:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: System Administrator To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C3682D.0EBC93C4" Subject: Undeliverable: Thank you! Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:42:02 +1200 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@kmr.ll.mit.edu> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C3682D.0EBC93C4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Your message To: David-------dethlefs@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu Subject: Thank you! Sent: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:39:53 +1200 did not reach the following recipient(s): david-------dethlefs@msnexch1.kmr.ll.mit.edu on Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:27:48 +1200 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=kls;l=MSNEXCH10308212127RH7K0CPC MSEXCH:IMS:KLS:MSN:MSNEXCH1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ------_=_NextPart_000_01C3682D.0EBC93C4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Message-ID: <200308212139.RAA05433@newlink.kmr.ll.mit.edu> From: glass@bungi.com To: David-------dethlefs@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu Subject: Thank you! Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:39:53 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C3682D.0EBC93C4" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C3682D.0EBC93C4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please see the attached file for details. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C3682D.0EBC93C4 Content-Type: text/plain; name="DELETED0.TXT" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DELETED0.TXT" File attachment: document_9446.pif The file attached to this email was removed because files of this type are not accepted for delivery by your email gateway. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C3682D.0EBC93C4-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C3682D.0EBC93C4-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 16:38:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: judicial.state.co.us!NAIJUDICIALMAILJUD2 From: "GroupShield for Exchange (MAILJUD2)" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C36833.3F668510" Subject: ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OA907_1061504781_MAILJUD2_1 wa Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:26:21 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C36833.3F668510 Content-Type: text/plain Action Taken: The attachment was quarantined from the message and replaced with a text file informing the recipient of the action taken. To: cheryl.taylor@judicial.state.co.us From: glass@bungi.com Sent: -680761856,29583360 Subject: Thank you! Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: document_9446.pif File: document_9446.pif Infected? Yes Repaired? No Blocked? No Deleted? 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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:27:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net>> Precedence: bulk I too wish that the sunshine folks would use glass-request@bungi.com to make their subscription requests. I plan to be here for a long time. I am quoting your entire message because I liked it so much. Bob in 92026 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Phibbs" To: "bungi glasss discussion list" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: Please do NOT remove me! > Dave and Glenna.. > > I understand the incredible volume of virus laden emails and I also > understand that such viruses glean names from other's address books, so > the viruses appear to be sent from a "legitimate" source, even though > they're not. > I've had some 260 of such emails in the past few days.. many were > notifications that some email that I'd sent contained these ".pif" > attachments.. but since I run an arcane Mac, there is absolutely NO way > those emails could have legitimately come from me. > What I've also noticed.. is just how many people on the bungi list, > are asking to be remved.. evidently in the false belief that all of > this garbage is somehow your fault. Of course the ones that I've seen, > have addressed to the entire group.. not to the proper email address to unsubscribe. > Well, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm no wuss.. I've got a lot of > patience, as most glass artists must have. While I don't post here > regularly.. I admire the sense of "community" that you folks have helped > foster, and I'm not going to allow these virtual terrorists to affect my > association with said community. > This exodus of "sunshine patriots" bothers me considerably, and I > wanted to let you know that regardless of the hassles, I still support > this discussion group, and hold you and Glenna in good standings, as I > do anyone who is determined to "stay the course" in spite of some minor inconveniences. > > Peace -Gerry Phibbs, IGGA > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 17:42:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Bergjuca From: Bergjuca@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_150.22ffc14b.2c76afc4_boundary" Subject: bungi: a glass question Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:29:08 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_150.22ffc14b.2c76afc4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit same here. i don't even have the windows program that can be affected, but i have been getting a ton of garbage email, it will pass i'm sure. i really enjoy this list so will just delete all those emails that say things like "email not deliverable" etc... i have a question. i've done a little goof and am thinking of different ways to correct a window i've made. its about a quarter inch too large for the opening (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a straight edge on it and cut the whole thing down to size or what? any suggestions from the bungier's who've stuck out the worms and viruses? --part1_150.22ffc14b.2c76afc4_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xi05.mx.aol.com (rly-xi05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.10]) by air-xi02.mail.aol.com (v95.12) with ESMTP id MAILINXI22-4e93f4548ff40; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:36:41 -0400 Received: from daver.bungi.com (daver.bungi.com [207.126.97.2]) by rly-xi05.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXI57-4e93f4548ff40; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:36:06 -0400 Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry Phibbs To: bungi glasss discussion list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Please do NOT remove me! Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:58:18 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> Precedence: bulk X-AOL-IP: 207.126.97.2 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave and Glenna.. I understand the incredible volume of virus laden emails and I also understand that such viruses glean names from other's address books, so the viruses appear to be sent from a "legitimate" source, even though they're not. I've had some 260 of such emails in the past few days.. many were notifications that some email that I'd sent contained these ".pif" attachments.. but since I run an arcane Mac, there is absolutely NO way those emails could have legitimately come from me. What I've also noticed.. is just how many people on the bungi list, are asking to be remved.. evidently in the false belief that all of this garbage is somehow your fault. Of course the ones that I've seen, have addressed to the entire group.. not to the proper email address to unsubscribe. Well, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm no wuss.. I've got a lot of patience, as most glass artists must have. While I don't post here regularly.. I admire the sense of "community" that you folks have helped foster, and I'm not going to allow these virtual terrorists to affect my association with said community. This exodus of "sunshine patriots" bothers me considerably, and I wanted to let you know that regardless of the hassles, I still support this discussion group, and hold you and Glenna in good standings, as I do anyone who is determined to "stay the course" in spite of some minor inconveniences. Peace -Gerry Phibbs, IGGA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass --part1_150.22ffc14b.2c76afc4_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 17:43:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: judicial.state.co.us!NAIJUDICIALMAILJUD2 From: "GroupShield for Exchange (MAILJUD2)" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C36837.25C4CB90" Subject: ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OA922_1061506456_MAILJUD2_1 wa Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:54:16 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C36837.25C4CB90 Content-Type: text/plain Action Taken: The attachment was quarantined from the message and replaced with a text file informing the recipient of the action taken. To: cheryl.taylor@judicial.state.co.us From: glass@bungi.com Sent: -1130631040,29583364 Subject: Your details Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: thank_you.pif File: thank_you.pif Infected? Yes Repaired? No Blocked? No Deleted? 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Date: Thu Aug 21 17:27:44 2003 Any infected parts of the message (details.pif) have not been delivered. This message is simply to warn you that your computer system may have a virus present and should be checked. The virus detector said this about the message: Report: details.pif contains Worm.Sobig.F Shortcuts to MS-Dos programs are very dangerous in email (details.pif) -- MailScanner Email Virus Scanner www.mailscanner.info Mailscanner thanks transtec Computers for their support ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 18:44:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!GR82SK8408 From: GR82SK8408@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: remove me from list Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:57:23 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk sorry, things are too scary with all of the worms. can we start again without all of the garbage floating around? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 19:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Virus Warning Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308220059.AVQ52553@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk VGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91IGVtYWlsZWQgdG8gc3VwcG9ydEBsYW5k bWFya2RhdGEuY29tLCBkYXRlZCAwOC8yMS8wMyAyMDo1OTowNiwg Y29udGFpbnMgdGhlIFczMi9Tb2JpZy1GIHZpcnVzIGluIHRoZSBh cHBsaWNhdGlvbi5waWYgYXR0YWNobWVudC4NCkFjdGlvbiB0YWtl bjogZGVsZXRlZA0KDQo= ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 19:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:53:28 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: midlandengineering.com!Administrator From: To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:13:27 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = glass@bungi.com Recipient(s) = Ken Sage Subject = Re: Thank you! Scanning time = 08/21/2003 20:13:24 Action on file blocking: The attachment document_all.pif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 20:32:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!CncptThnkr From: CncptThnkr@aol.com To: Bergjuca@aol.com, Glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1061516182" Subject: Window too large for the opening Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:36:22 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk -------------------------------1061516182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/21/2003 8:43:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bergjuca@aol.com writes: its about a quarter inch too large for the opening (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a straight edge on it and cut the whole thing down to size or what? There's no way to adjust the size of the opening? What type of framing is this window being set into? Is it lead or copper foil? Is there going to be something around the perimeter of the glass? -------------------------------1061516182 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 8/21/2003 8:43:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bergjuca= @aol.com writes:
its about a quarter inch too large for the ope= ning (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a straight edge on it and= cut the whole thing down to size or what?
There's no way to adjust the size of the opening?  What type of fr= aming is this window being set into?  Is it lead or copper foil? =20= Is there going to be something around the perimeter of the glass? 
-------------------------------1061516182-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 21:30:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: ptdprolog.net!suzi1025 From: suzanne albright To: Gerry Phibbs , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please do NOT remove me! Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:51:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@ptdprolog.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net>> Precedence: bulk My feelings exactly. Thanks, Gerry. ron 8/21/03 9:58 AM, Gerry Phibbs at glasscutter@earthlink.net wrote: > Dave and Glenna.. > > I understand the incredible volume of virus laden emails and I also > understand that such viruses glean names from other's address books, so > the viruses appear to be sent from a "legitimate" source, even though > they're not. > I've had some 260 of such emails in the past few days.. many were > notifications that some email that I'd sent contained these ".pif" > attachments.. but since I run an arcane Mac, there is absolutely NO way > those emails could have legitimately come from me. > What I've also noticed.. is just how many people on the bungi list, > are asking to be remved.. evidently in the false belief that all of > this garbage is somehow your fault. Of course the ones that I've seen, > have addressed to the entire group.. not to the proper email address to > unsubscribe. > Well, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm no wuss.. I've got a lot of > patience, as most glass artists must have. While I don't post here > regularly.. I admire the sense of "community" that you folks have helped > foster, and I'm not going to allow these virtual terrorists to affect my > association with said community. > This exodus of "sunshine patriots" bothers me considerably, and I > wanted to let you know that regardless of the hassles, I still support > this discussion group, and hold you and Glenna in good standings, as I > do anyone who is determined to "stay the course" in spite of some minor > inconveniences. > > Peace -Gerry Phibbs, IGGA > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 21:31:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: midlandengineering.com!Administrator From: To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:52:43 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = glass@bungi.com Recipient(s) = Ken Sage Subject = Re: Approved Scanning time = 08/21/2003 21:52:41 Action on file blocking: The attachment thank_you.pif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 21:37:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bounced email Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> Precedence: bulk Some of these bounces are not caused by the viruses, but by people who have left on vacation and have tied ALL their email to their out-of-the-office message. The netiquette way is to either temporarily remove yourself from the list, OR filter your mail and apply vacation messages only to business or personal email, not to lists. Particularly at this time of year we see this happening a lot. Depending on the server software, some servers can identify bounces and immediately remove the offender from the list. However, with today's viruses where address spoofing happens so it looks like someone else sent the mail, it is difficult to do this without inconvieniencing legit members. - Cec ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 22:32:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry Phibbs To: Bergjuca@aol.com, glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bungi: a glass question Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:38:14 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Hi Berg, As for just using a straight edge and trying to cut a 1/4" off your finished panel.. I suspect that's not going to work at all. First.. what did you use for the edges of the panel? If you used the typical H lead came, you may well be able to trim off the outside portion of that "H", and get the clearance you need. Zinc H came can also be trimmed, but it's a much bigger pain in the rump. If the panel is foiled, about the only suggestion that I can make.. is first to measure EXACTLY the opening where the panel is going to be mounted. You can't deal with this "about 1/4" too big, you need to know exactly. And measure all six dimensions.. width top and bottom, height left and right, and then the diagonals. You may well find that the opening itself is not square, and in that case, you may either be able to remove less material in one area, rather than across the entire panel. Lay out those dimensions right on the panel.. magic marker (fine point) works fine, and it'll come off easily. This way, you can get an idea of just where the measurements are off, and what portion of your panel you're willing to sacrifice to make it fit. Frankly, before I started cutting on any panel, I'd take a real good look at the opening. What's the frame made out of? If you have a wooden frame that's thick enough, you may well find that you can use a very sharp chisel, and pare off 1/8" off each side of the frame, to allow your panel to fit, without having to disassemble the panel at all. I have done exactly that on more than one occasion, where there was enough material to work with without compromising it. But, if that's not an option.. metal or rock framing, then after you've laid out the dimensions, and decided what to cut off, use your straight edge and marker to mark off the cuts on the individual pieces of glass, before disassembly. For most of us, cutting off 1/4" isn't usually a problem, but much depends on the glass and your skill. You can also grind off 1/4", it's a lot more work, but sometimes it's all you can do. Actually, if the panel was 1/4" too big, I'd suggest cutting off at least 5/16" of an inch, just to allow you a little "wiggle room" in the final installation. Once you've got your cut lines established on the glass, go ahead and disassemble the panel, and cut each piece of glass one at a time, then replace them into their positions in the panel. If foiled.. you'll have more hassle getting the pieces out.. but it can be done.. I usually hang a portion of the panel off my work table, and use a hot iron from the underside.. the solder runs down and out of the joint a bit better that way, so there's less to deal with when you go at it with the Xacto knife to cut and remove the existing foil. At any rate.. good luck.. and see if you can look at modifying the frame before you get too deep into redoing the panel.. what's a 1/4" among friends? (grin) Peace -Gerry ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 22:34:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: cox.net!bobfuses From: "Bob D" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bungi: a glass question Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:02:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Yes, I have cut many windows by placing a straight edge on them and using it as a guide for my cutter. In the case of a leaded window I use my dikes to cut the lead from the top and bottom and then use pliers to break out the individual scores. Once you get the hang of it it is easy. Bob in 92026 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: bungi: a glass question > same here. i don't even have the windows program that can be affected, but i > have been getting a ton of garbage email, it will pass i'm sure. > > i really enjoy this list so will just delete all those emails that say things > like "email not deliverable" etc... > > i have a question. i've done a little goof and am thinking of different ways > to correct a window i've made. its about a quarter inch too large for the > opening (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a straight edge on it and > cut the whole thing down to size or what? any suggestions from the bungier's > who've stuck out the worms and viruses? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 23:30:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:38:11 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Awbaxter From: Awbaxter@aol.com To: Bergjuca@aol.com, glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_95.31928c8e.2c76f764_boundary" Subject: Re: bungi: a glass question Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:34:44 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_95.31928c8e.2c76f764_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/21/2003 8:43:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bergjuca@aol.com writes: > i've done a little goof and am thinking of different ways > to correct a window i've made. its about a quarter inch too large for the > opening (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a straight edge on it > and > cut the whole thing down to size or what? any suggestions from the > bungier's > who've stuck out the worms and viruses? > > What is the perimeter material? Did you use 1/2" wide "H" lead? That's an easy one to take down with a rasp. IF there is no perimeter leading, and the panel is copper foil, go ahead and use a ruler to mark off a new cutting line to cut down, right through the foiled seams. Of course, a BIG consideration will be the design of the panel, and if you can take it down 1/4" on both sides to keep the original design in balance. Ann --part1_95.31928c8e.2c76f764_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 8= /21/2003 8:43:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bergjuca@aol.com writes:

i've done a little goof and am thinking of different ways <= BR> to correct a window i've made.  its about a quarter inch too large for=20= the
opening (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a straight edge on it=20= and
cut the whole thing down to size or what?  any suggestions from the bun= gier's
who've stuck out the worms and viruses?



What is the perimeter material?  Did you use 1/2" wide "H" lead? =20= That's an easy one to take down with a rasp.   IF there is no peri= meter leading, and the panel is copper foil, go ahead and use a ruler to mar= k off a new cutting line to cut down, right through the foiled seams. =20= Of course, a BIG consideration will be the design of the panel, and if you c= an take it down 1/4" on both sides to keep the original design in balance. Ann --part1_95.31928c8e.2c76f764_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Aug 21 23:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mindspring.com!johncarmichael From: "John Carmichael" To: "Glass List" , "Gerry Phibbs" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please do NOT remove me! Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:16:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net>> Precedence: bulk Well said Gerry, I'll stick it out too. I'm just worried that when they get things fixed that nobody will be left on the list. I think they might have to inform everyone who left when things get fixed so that they will resubscribe. John John L. Carmichael Jr. 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona, USA Tel: 520-696-1709 Email: johncarmichael@mindspring.com Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com Stained Glass Sundials Website: http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Phibbs" To: "bungi glasss discussion list" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: Please do NOT remove me! > Dave and Glenna.. > > I understand the incredible volume of virus laden emails and I also > understand that such viruses glean names from other's address books, so > the viruses appear to be sent from a "legitimate" source, even though > they're not. > I've had some 260 of such emails in the past few days.. many were > notifications that some email that I'd sent contained these ".pif" > attachments.. but since I run an arcane Mac, there is absolutely NO way > those emails could have legitimately come from me. > What I've also noticed.. is just how many people on the bungi list, > are asking to be remved.. evidently in the false belief that all of > this garbage is somehow your fault. Of course the ones that I've seen, > have addressed to the entire group.. not to the proper email address to unsubscribe. > Well, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm no wuss.. I've got a lot of > patience, as most glass artists must have. While I don't post here > regularly.. I admire the sense of "community" that you folks have helped > foster, and I'm not going to allow these virtual terrorists to affect my > association with said community. > This exodus of "sunshine patriots" bothers me considerably, and I > wanted to let you know that regardless of the hassles, I still support > this discussion group, and hold you and Glenna in good standings, as I > do anyone who is determined to "stay the course" in spite of some minor inconveniences. > > Peace -Gerry Phibbs, IGGA > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 01:29:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: "Postmaster" To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Undeliverable Mail Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:52:19 -0400 Message-ID: <10308220052.AA02564@ewhserver18.edgewebhosting.net> Precedence: bulk No message body: bobl@insurance4usa.com Original message follows. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 02:18:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: System Administrator To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C36884.B5C71200" Subject: Undeliverable: Your details Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:09:29 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@dexmedia.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C36884.B5C71200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Your message To: igcs@qwest.com Subject: Your details Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:10:37 -0600 did not reach the following recipient(s): IGCS on Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:09:28 -0600 The recipient was unavailable to take delivery of the message The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=usw;l=DENIMS010308220809RLRDLPV6 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:NORTHAMERICA:DENEX01 ------_=_NextPart_000_01C36884.B5C71200 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Message-ID: <200308220809.h7M88To0018424@uswgne21.uswest.com> From: glass@bungi.com To: igcs@qwest.com Subject: Your details Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:10:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C36884.B5C71200" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C36884.B5C71200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please see the attached file for details. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C36884.B5C71200 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT35048.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT35048.txt" [Filename: your_document.pif, Content-Type: application/octet-stream] The attachment sent with this e-mail was removed due to the virus risk. = No further action is needed on your part. 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Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Virus Warning Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308221027.BHF62807@mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk VGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91IGVtYWlsZWQgdG8gc3VwcG9ydEBsYW5k bWFya2RhdGEuY29tLCBkYXRlZCAwOC8yMi8wMyAwNjoyNzo1OSwg Y29udGFpbnMgdGhlIFczMi9Tb2JpZy1GIHZpcnVzIGluIHRoZSBk b2N1bWVudF85NDQ2LnBpZiBhdHRhY2htZW50Lg0KQWN0aW9uIHRh a2VuOiBkZWxldGVkDQoNCg== ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 04:52:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:19:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: toledolink.com!asaris From: "tony" To: "bungi glasss discussion list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Do not remove me Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:10:18 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@toledolink.com> Precedence: bulk I agree with Gerry Tony ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 05:16:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Virus Warning Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308221131.BHF76009@mailrtr2.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk VGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91IGVtYWlsZWQgdG8gc3VwcG9ydEBsYW5k bWFya2RhdGEuY29tLCBkYXRlZCAwOC8yMi8wMyAwNzozMTo0Nywg Y29udGFpbnMgdGhlIFczMi9Tb2JpZy1GIHZpcnVzIGluIHRoZSBk ZXRhaWxzLnBpZiBhdHRhY2htZW50Lg0KQWN0aW9uIHRha2VuOiBk ZWxldGVkDQoNCg== ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 06:25:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Virus Warning Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200308221222.AVR84856@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk VGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91IGVtYWlsZWQgdG8gc3VwcG9ydEBsYW5k bWFya2RhdGEuY29tLCBkYXRlZCAwOC8yMi8wMyAwODoyMjo0NCwg Y29udGFpbnMgdGhlIFczMi9Tb2JpZy1GIHZpcnVzIGluIHRoZSBh cHBsaWNhdGlvbi5waWYgYXR0YWNobWVudC4NCkFjdGlvbiB0YWtl bjogZGVsZXRlZA0KDQo= ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 06:57:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!byronw26 From: "Byron Wells" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <> Precedence: bulk If folks would just do a few simple things they would have a whole lot fewer problems in this area.... 1. Buy and update a good virus program. My subscription for Norton internet security has a firewall and virus protection and runs about $60 per year. It updates itself all the time... Pretty cheap insurance. 2. Get rid of your address book... Seems like 90% of these 'critters' get into your address book then email themselves to everyone on it. Byron... Wells Glassworks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rand" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Recent messages on the list > There is a massive worm infection on the internet currently. Part of this > infection sends out many mail messages with seemingly valid From: addresses > found from files on the infected computer. > > What this means to you is that you will get some bizzare messages from the > list which indicate that there is a problem sending messages. This will > continue until the worm has run its course. We already stop thousands of > these messages per day (really) from going to the list, but because of all of > the various formats, we just can't catch them all. > > Blame Bill Gates. > > > -- > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 07:28:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: Mail Delivery System To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Warning: message 19qABe-0003kL-00 delayed 60 minutes Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:39:02 -0600 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 60 minutes on the queue on rollerauction.com. The message identifier is: 19qABe-0003kL-00 The subject of the message is: Thank you! The date of the message is: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 5:36:19 --0600 The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is: renee@rollerauction.com (generated from office@rollerauction.com) No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 07:54:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: midlandengineering.com!Administrator From: To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = glass@bungi.com Recipient(s) = Ken Sage Subject = Thank you! Scanning time = 08/22/2003 08:26:38 Action on file blocking: The attachment thank_you.pif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 08:30:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: netaxs.com!maruca From: maruca@netaxs.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: who's going to Glass Visions? Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@netaxs.com> Precedence: bulk Doesn't look like I'll be there this year, but I might enjoy it vicariously, as Warner-C says they'll be posting pix as the weekend progresses. Below I quote a bit of their latest email: Glass Visions 2003 is here! The [sic] morning, Warner-Crivellaro opened the doors on its 7th annual trade show and sale. If you're missing it, you're missing out on a great weekend of glass and fun! Over 30 vendors are here to show you the tips and tricks of using the hottest products in stained glass, there's free workshops, a giraffe art project, and a huge sale! We'll also be updating www.warner-criv.com with pictures of this big event throughout the weekend! ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 08:32:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: compuquestinc.com!marge From: "Marge Lind" To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Remove Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@compuquestinc.com> Organization: http://www.compuquestinc.com Precedence: bulk Please remove equestrian@compuquestinc.com & marge@compuquestinc.com from list. - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Compuquest, Inc. Fax: 630-830-0877 630-830-2700 www.compuquestinc.com Since 1983 Innovative Technology Solutions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 08:33:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: indigo.ie!pkennan From: Paul Kennan To: Glass Stained Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:11:20 +0100 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@indigo.ie> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3144409880_1411318_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Best solution of all, buy an AppleMac! Paul -------------------------- Paul Kennan Dublin Stained Glass Supplies 62b Heather Road Sandyford Industrial Estate Dublin 18 Ireland Tel: (+353 1) 295 7261 Fax: (+353 1) 295 7297 From: "Byron Wells" Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:14:19 -0500 To: Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list If folks would just do a few simple things they would have a whole lot fewer problems in this area.... 1. Buy and update a good virus program. My subscription for Norton internet security has a firewall and virus protection and runs about $60 per year. It updates itself all the time... Pretty cheap insurance. 2. Get rid of your address book... Seems like 90% of these 'critters' get into your address book then email themselves to everyone on it. Byron... Wells Glassworks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rand" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Recent messages on the list > There is a massive worm infection on the internet currently. Part of this > infection sends out many mail messages with seemingly valid From: addresses > found from files on the infected computer. > > What this means to you is that you will get some bizzare messages from the > list which indicate that there is a problem sending messages. This will > continue until the worm has run its course. We already stop thousands of > these messages per day (really) from going to the list, but because of all of > the various formats, we just can't catch them all. > > Blame Bill Gates. > > > -- > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass --MS_Mac_OE_3144409880_1411318_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Recent messages on the list Best solution of all, buy an AppleMac!

Paul



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Paul Kennan
Dublin Stained Glass Supplies
62b Heather Road
Sandyford Industrial Estate
Dublin 18
Ireland
Tel:  (+353 1) 295 7261
Fax: (+353 1) 295 7297


From: "Byron Wells" <byronw26@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:14:19 -0500
To: <glass@bungi.com>
Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list


If folks would just do a few simple things they would have a wh= ole lot fewer
problems in this area....

1. Buy and update a good virus program. My subscription for Norton internet=
security has a firewall and virus protection and runs about $60 per year. I= t
updates itself all the time... Pretty cheap insurance.

2. Get rid of your address book... Seems like 90% of these 'critters' get into your address book then email themselves to everyone on it.

Byron...
Wells Glassworks


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Rand" <dlr@bungi.com>
To: <glass@Bungi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:13 AM
Subject: Recent messages on the list


> There is a massive worm infection on the internet currently.  Par= t of this
> infection sends out many mail messages with seemingly valid From:
addresses
> found from files on the infected computer.
>
> What this means to you is that you will get some bizzare messages from= the
> list which indicate that there is a problem sending messages.  Th= is will
> continue until the worm has run its course.  We already stop thou= sands of
> these messages per day (really) from going to the list, but because of= all
of
> the various formats, we just can't catch them all.
>
> Blame Bill Gates.
>
>
> --
> ----
> For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com
> To send to the list,      please mail to: gla= ss@bungi.com
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>


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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:03:52 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@dexmedia.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Your message To: igcs@qwest.com Subject: Thank you! Sent: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:05:28 -0600 did not reach the following recipient(s): IGCS on Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:03:51 -0600 The recipient was unavailable to take delivery of the message The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=usw;l=DENIMS010308221703RLRDL9K8 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:NORTHAMERICA:DENEX01 ------_=_NextPart_000_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Message-ID: <200308221703.h7MH3L9J015933@uswgne23.uswest.com> From: glass@bungi.com To: igcs@qwest.com Subject: Thank you! Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:05:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please see the attached file for details. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT50638.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT50638.txt" [Filename: details.pif, Content-Type: application/octet-stream] The attachment sent with this e-mail was removed due to the virus risk. = No further action is needed on your part. Contact the sender if other = means of receiving the attachment are required. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C368CF.5CD1CCAD-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 12:24:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: midlandengineering.com!Administrator From: To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = glass@bungi.com Recipient(s) = Ken Sage Subject = [SPAM:SA] Re: Your application Scanning time = 08/22/2003 13:39:20 Action on file blocking: The attachment wicked_scr.scr matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 13:26:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:28:22 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: bungi: a glass question Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:14:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk that probably won't work. i've had to do this, but i had to remove the framing metal (zinc, lead), trim each piece individually, and put back the framing. you shouldn't run your cutter over the joints between pieces of glass, as that will damage the cutting wheel. i've also had good luck laying the edge of the pane over the edge of the table and moving a grinder over the edges of the glass, rather than moving the glass over the grinder platform. doing it this way means you don't have to take as much apart. this is one of the reasons why i've changed to using lead H came (1/2") as framing. i can use a block plane to trim the sizes of panels slightly to make them fit better. regards, charlie cave creek, az > -----Original Message----- > From: Bergjuca@aol.com [mailto:Bergjuca@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:29 PM > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: bungi: a glass question > > > same here. i don't even have the windows program that can be > affected, but i > have been getting a ton of garbage email, it will pass i'm sure. > > i really enjoy this list so will just delete all those emails > that say things > like "email not deliverable" etc... > > i have a question. i've done a little goof and am thinking > of different ways > to correct a window i've made. its about a quarter inch too > large for the > opening (hehehe) so i'm trying to decide if i can put a > straight edge on it and > cut the whole thing down to size or what? any suggestions > from the bungier's > who've stuck out the worms and viruses? > > > > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 13:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!byronw26 From: "Byron Wells" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <>> Precedence: bulk If folks would just do a few simple things they would have a whole lot fewer problems in this area.... 1. Buy and update a good virus program. My subscription for Norton internet security has a firewall and virus protection and runs about $60 per year. It updates itself all the time... Pretty cheap insurance. 2. Get rid of your address book... Seems like 90% of these 'critters' get into your address book then email themselves to everyone on it. Byron... Wells Glassworks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rand" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Recent messages on the list > There is a massive worm infection on the internet currently. Part of this > infection sends out many mail messages with seemingly valid From: addresses > found from files on the infected computer. > > What this means to you is that you will get some bizzare messages from the > list which indicate that there is a problem sending messages. This will > continue until the worm has run its course. We already stop thousands of > these messages per day (really) from going to the list, but because of all of > the various formats, we just can't catch them all. > > Blame Bill Gates. > > > -- > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 14:02:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: wmol.com!giapet From: "Karen K." To: Subject: For subscription changes,,,,,please use Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@wmol.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com thanks Karen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 14:42:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: rollerauction.com!Mailer-Daemon From: Mail Delivery System To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Warning: message 19qABe-0003kL-00 delayed 60 minutes Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:39:02 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@rollerauction.com> Precedence: bulk This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 60 minutes on the queue on rollerauction.com. The message identifier is: 19qABe-0003kL-00 The subject of the message is: Thank you! The date of the message is: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 5:36:19 --0600 The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is: renee@rollerauction.com (generated from office@rollerauction.com) No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 14:42:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com!administrator From: administrator@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Virus Warning Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mailrtr1.mailzone.edeltacom.com> Precedence: bulk VGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgeW91IGVtYWlsZWQgdG8gc3VwcG9ydEBsYW5k bWFya2RhdGEuY29tLCBkYXRlZCAwOC8yMi8wMyAwODoyMjo0NCwg Y29udGFpbnMgdGhlIFczMi9Tb2JpZy1GIHZpcnVzIGluIHRoZSBh cHBsaWNhdGlvbi5waWYgYXR0YWNobWVudC4NCkFjdGlvbiB0YWtl bjogZGVsZXRlZA0KDQo= ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 15:27:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: MAILER-DAEMON From: "MailScanner" To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Warning: E-mail viruses detected Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:01:27 -0700 Message-ID: <200308222201.h7MM1Rw18248@ensim.bellinghambay.com> Precedence: bulk Our virus detector has just been triggered by a message you sent:- To: customerservice@appetiteforfreedom.com Subject: Thank you! Date: Fri Aug 22 15:01:27 2003 Any infected parts of the message (application.pif) have not been delivered. This message is simply to warn you that your computer system may have a virus present and should be checked. The virus detector said this about the message: Report: application.pif contains Worm.Sobig.F Shortcuts to MS-Dos programs are very dangerous in email (application.pif) -- MailScanner Email Virus Scanner www.mailscanner.info Mailscanner thanks transtec Computers for their support ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 15:28:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: sanchezog.com!Antigen_EXCHANGE_SERVER From: Antigen_EXCHANGE_SERVER To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Antigen found VIRUS= I-Worm.Sobig.f (Kaspersky,CA(InoculateIT),Sophos) worm Date: 22 Aug 2003 16:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@daver.bungi.com> Precedence: bulk Antigen for Exchange found thank_you.pif infected with VIRUS= I-Worm.Sobig.f (Kaspersky,CA(InoculateIT),Sophos) worm. The message is currently Purged. The message, "Re: Details", was sent from glass@bungi.com and was discovered in SMTP Messages\Inbound And Outbound located at sanchezog/First Administrative Group/EXCHANGE-SERVER. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 15:29:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [bungi] marking on dark glass Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:26:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk just found this: http://www.sharpie.com/sanford/consumer/sharpie/newproducts/whatsnew.jhtml regards, charlie cave creek, az ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 17:13:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: rcn.com!shad.nai From: "Family Account" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Do not remove me Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:38:31 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@rcn.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@toledolink.com>> Precedence: bulk i find it interesting how many "undeliverable" messages I've sent when I was away at Glass Visions today! I'm pretty sure I left my computer at home! Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony" To: "bungi glasss discussion list" Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:10 AM Subject: Do not remove me > I agree with Gerry > Tony > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 22 17:37:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Bergjuca From: Bergjuca@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_104.34d122fd.2c7804cf_boundary" Subject: bungi: glass question and Fwd: Recent messages on the list Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:44:15 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_104.34d122fd.2c7804cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm very computer illiterate but occasionally i try new things friends who seem to be more astute recommend. one of them was that if you start out your address book with a bogus email it will cause those types of viruses to fail if the first email isn't valid. now that was an old trick from years back and i'm guessing/wondering if this is still valid but i still do it just in case...oh, and of course, norton's anti virus...hey does anyone else wonder if it isn't someone hired by these virus protection people doing all these viruses? i mean, if i was in the market to sell ANTI virus programs, i'd probably made sure my product needed a market...!!! well, maybe not but i've often wondered that. ok, so my window, its 13" X 78", a beautiful peacock that will go in the side panel next to the front door. it just so happens that when i laid out my project, my edge i used to go by moved over just a tiny bit, and i guess i didn't really allow for the foiling as it does have several tiny pieces so a little more was added in the width by default. sooo nevertheless, its approximately 1/8" too large. i could put it in on a bit of an angle and it would look ok, but not perfect. i could cut it down approx a 1/4" and it would fit but there are tiny pieces i'd have to work very carefully on. i could chisel out from the window frame. now i'm renting and figured when i started the project that i'd put it in for now, when i moved and bought my own place i'd take it with me and could easily add to it another panel if needed if my new house didn't have a sidelight, and glasswork is basically therapy to me, much cheaper than going to see a shrink, so either way i wasn't losing out here. i appreciate all of your great suggestions and still am deciding on the final plan but a dear friend of mine came over who is handy with a chisel and told me he'd help me to make it fit if i wanted. i could chisel down the side where it needs it and i have some paint left over when they painted so i could paint the bare wood, and then just pop it out and take it with me when i move! i think, if it seems to be the easiest way to go, that is what i'll do. i also could just as easily cut off one side of the piece as it is a picture, not a balanced abstract or design. hey, i'll send a picture of it when i finish it so you guys can see how you've helped this silly texan who moved to canada with her therapeutic project! hahaha again, thanks, bungier's for all the knowledge you've provided me with. oh, one final question. my tip on the solder iron is kind of worn in the centre because i didn't really know how to care for it or clean it when i started. i'm about ready to buy a new tip for it and went into a glass shop and just inquired with the lady there. the tip is the average one that comes with the irons, i forget the size, but she recommended i purchase the little skinny one, i guess its about 1/4 inch or smaller? anyway, she said if i've been soldering as long as i have (about a year i guess is how long i've been doing glass) i should be good enough to use the smaller tip. can you guys tell me your preference and the benefits of having a smaller tip? thanks again, my friends . jules oshawa ontario canada, formerly longview texas --part1_104.34d122fd.2c7804cf_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xb02.mx.aol.com (rly-xb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.103]) by air-xb03.mail.aol.com (v95.12) with ESMTP id MAILINXB34-933f462142e8; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:57:57 -0400 Received: from daver.bungi.com (daver.bungi.com [207.126.97.2]) by rly-xb02.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB27-933f462142e8; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:57:35 -0400 Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: comcast.net!byronw26 From: "Byron Wells" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <> Precedence: bulk X-AOL-IP: 207.126.97.2 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If folks would just do a few simple things they would have a whole lot fewer problems in this area.... 1. Buy and update a good virus program. My subscription for Norton internet security has a firewall and virus protection and runs about $60 per year. It updates itself all the time... Pretty cheap insurance. 2. Get rid of your address book... Seems like 90% of these 'critters' get into your address book then email themselves to everyone on it. Byron... Wells Glassworks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rand" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Recent messages on the list > There is a massive worm infection on the internet currently. Part of this > infection sends out many mail messages with seemingly valid From: addresses > found from files on the infected computer. > > What this means to you is that you will get some bizzare messages from the > list which indicate that there is a problem sending messages. This will > continue until the worm has run its course. We already stop thousands of > these messages per day (really) from going to the list, but because of all of > the various formats, we just can't catch them all. > > Blame Bill Gates. > > > -- > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass --part1_104.34d122fd.2c7804cf_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 23 00:47:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: ptdprolog.net!suzi1025 From: suzanne albright To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bungi: glass question and Fwd: Recent messages on the list Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:19:51 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@ptdprolog.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Hi Jules, My preference is for the 3/8" tip. I use a Weller 100 and like it a lot. When I need to get in tiny little spaces I just turn the iron on its side. There are times when that small tip won"t "cut the mustard" and you'll wish you had a wider tip. IMHO, of course. Suzanne on 8/22/03 7:44 PM, Bergjuca@aol.com at Bergjuca@aol.com wrote: > i'm very computer illiterate but occasionally i try new things friends who > seem to be more astute recommend. one of them was that if you start out your > address book with a bogus email it will cause those types of viruses to fail > if > the first email isn't valid. now that was an old trick from years back and > i'm guessing/wondering if this is still valid but i still do it just in > case...oh, and of course, norton's anti virus...hey does anyone else wonder if > it > isn't someone hired by these virus protection people doing all these viruses? > i > mean, if i was in the market to sell ANTI virus programs, i'd probably made > sure my product needed a market...!!! well, maybe not but i've often wondered > that. > > ok, so my window, its 13" X 78", a beautiful peacock that will go in the side > panel next to the front door. it just so happens that when i laid out my > project, my edge i used to go by moved over just a tiny bit, and i guess i > didn't > really allow for the foiling as it does have several tiny pieces so a little > more was added in the width by default. sooo nevertheless, its approximately > 1/8" too large. i could put it in on a bit of an angle and it would look ok, > but not perfect. i could cut it down approx a 1/4" and it would fit but there > are tiny pieces i'd have to work very carefully on. i could chisel out from > the window frame. now i'm renting and figured when i started the project that > i'd put it in for now, when i moved and bought my own place i'd take it with > me and could easily add to it another panel if needed if my new house didn't > have a sidelight, and glasswork is basically therapy to me, much cheaper than > going to see a shrink, so either way i wasn't losing out here. i appreciate > all of your great suggestions and still am deciding on the final plan but a > dear > friend of mine came over who is handy with a chisel and told me he'd help me > to make it fit if i wanted. i could chisel down the side where it needs it > and i have some paint left over when they painted so i could paint the bare > wood, and then just pop it out and take it with me when i move! i think, if > it > seems to be the easiest way to go, that is what i'll do. i also could just as > easily cut off one side of the piece as it is a picture, not a balanced > abstract or design. hey, i'll send a picture of it when i finish it so you > guys can > see how you've helped this silly texan who moved to canada with her > therapeutic project! hahaha again, thanks, bungier's for all the knowledge > you've > provided me with. > > oh, one final question. my tip on the solder iron is kind of worn in the > centre because i didn't really know how to care for it or clean it when i > started. i'm about ready to buy a new tip for it and went into a glass shop > and just > inquired with the lady there. the tip is the average one that comes with the > irons, i forget the size, but she recommended i purchase the little skinny > one, i guess its about 1/4 inch or smaller? anyway, she said if i've been > soldering as long as i have (about a year i guess is how long i've been doing > glass) i should be good enough to use the smaller tip. can you guys tell me > your > preference and the benefits of having a smaller tip? > > thanks again, my friends . > > jules > oshawa ontario canada, formerly longview texas > > From: "Byron Wells" > Date: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:14 AM > To: > Subject: Re: Recent messages on the list > > If folks would just do a few simple things they would have a whole lot fewer > problems in this area.... > > 1. Buy and update a good virus program. My subscription for Norton internet > security has a firewall and virus protection and runs about $60 per year. It > updates itself all the time... Pretty cheap insurance. > > 2. Get rid of your address book... Seems like 90% of these 'critters' get > into your address book then email themselves to everyone on it. > > Byron... > Wells Glassworks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Rand" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:13 AM > Subject: Recent messages on the list > > >> There is a massive worm infection on the internet currently. Part of this >> infection sends out many mail messages with seemingly valid From: > addresses >> found from files on the infected computer. >> >> What this means to you is that you will get some bizzare messages from the >> list which indicate that there is a problem sending messages. This will >> continue until the worm has run its course. We already stop thousands of >> these messages per day (really) from going to the list, but because of all > of >> the various formats, we just can't catch them all. >> >> Blame Bill Gates. >> >> >> -- >> ---- >> For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >> To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >> Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass >> > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 23 05:51:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 04:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!UserDusty From: UserDusty@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_176.1eb9e239.2c789e3c_boundary" Subject: Re: PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ME Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:38:52 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_176.1eb9e239.2c789e3c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dave and Glenna, I just want to say thank you for having Bungi available to us. I have learned a lot from this group. I think with the implementation of the Do Not Call business the telemarketers are looking for other ways to sell their wares. I've seen a big change in the amount of garbage mail I receive. Again Thank You and keep me on the list. Your Friend in Glass, Ken O --part1_176.1eb9e239.2c789e3c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dave and Glenna,

I just want to say thank you for having Bungi available to us.  I have=20= learned a lot from this group. I think with the implementation of the Do Not= Call business the telemarketers are looking for other ways to sell their wa= res. I've seen a big change in the amount of garbage mail I receive. Again T= hank You and keep me on the list.

Your Friend in Glass,

Ken O --part1_176.1eb9e239.2c789e3c_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 23 10:01:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: nopdesign.com!scott From: Scott Moore To: GLASS@BUNGI.COM Subject: Re: Thank you! Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <200308231410.h7NEAqi27858@flare.imageone.com> References: <<200308231410.h7NEAn127849@flare.imageone.com>> Precedence: bulk I'm sorry, but because I have been receiving more than 100 junk-mail messages an hour, I no longer accept e-mail from unregistered senders. To send me a message, please follow the path that best describes your needs: Business Contacts ----------------- 1. Register as a valid sender by visiting http://www.nopdesign.com/register/ 2. Re-send your e-mail FreeCart Support ---------------- 1. Post a message to the support forum at http://www.nopdesign.com/forum/ 2. Send a private message through the support forums Friends and Family ------------------ 1. Register as friends & family by visiting http://www.nopdesign.com/family/ 2. Re-send your e-mail I'm sorry for the inconvenience, however, there was simply no way to keep up with the volume of junk-mail I receive, even with the freeware or commercial spam blocking tools. Once you register, you will not need to register again, unless you change your e-mail address. If you didn't send me a message, there is a good chance someone you know has an email virus or your email has been targetted by spammers. Here is a link from Symantec to learn more about the current most common virus: http://securityresponse1.symantec.com/sarc/sarc.nsf/html/w32.sobig.f@mm.html On August 20, 2003 I received 9,755 messages by 11am from this virus! PLEASE clean your machine, and keep your virus detection software updated! Thank you, Scott Moore NOP Design ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 23 17:14:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: yahoo.com!texpenguin From: Sherry Greer To: GlassList Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Bungi: eating my own words Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Well, I knew just as soon as I made a statement like "I just rub my iron tip on a wet sponge and it's always shiny as new", that it would come back to bite me on the bum! My tip now has a granular mess on it that won't come off on the sponge. Question: can I clean the tip off with a wire brush and retin it? Surely, the wire won't damage the tip in any real way...Also, could someone reiterate the fine points of soldering iron care, because I obviously didn't study that lesson hard enough! Sherry ===== Sherry Greer Lady Penguinevere Designs ladypenguin@tsgreer.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Aug 23 21:34:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: ptdprolog.net!suzi1025 From: suzanne albright To: GlassList Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bungi: eating my own words Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:11:33 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@ptdprolog.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com>> Precedence: bulk Hi Sherry, When I buy a new iron (twice in 14 years) I tin it well with solder, so it sticks to the tip and is shiny all over. Most of the time a sponge is sufficient to keep it shiny, and I make good use of the sponge. When it gets that goop on it, I rub it over a piece of Sal Ammoniac. I flux a spot on the SA and apply the iron over some solder, wipe, wipe and wipe again. Stubborn stains take lots of wiping, more applications of solder and flux. The SA will get grooved and dirty where you rub it and it will smoke and smell bad, but it cleans the iron nicely. I believe you should loosen the tip occasionally so it doesn't get "seized" in the iron. I rarely change tips but if you've got a seized tip it will be difficult to remove. Anyone have any hints on that? Suzanne on 8/23/03 7:10 PM, Sherry Greer at texpenguin@yahoo.com wrote: > Well, I knew just as soon as I made a statement > like "I just rub my iron tip on a wet sponge and > it's always shiny as new", that it would come > back to bite me on the bum! My tip now has a > granular mess on it that won't come off on the > sponge. Question: can I clean the tip off with > a wire brush and retin it? Surely, the wire > won't damage the tip in any real way...Also, > could someone reiterate the fine points of > soldering iron care, because I obviously didn't > study that lesson hard enough! > Sherry > > > ===== > Sherry Greer > Lady Penguinevere Designs > ladypenguin@tsgreer.com > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Aug 24 14:15:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please do not remove me Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:30:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk I sure wish the bungi group would re-group and commit to sharing again like we used to. Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Aug 24 14:18:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: yahoo.com!texpenguin From: Sherry Greer To: GlassList Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: bungi:dirty iron tip Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk OK, another question. I've bought my iron within the past few years, and was told that it had a 'pretinned' tip and that you should never use sal ammoniac with it. Just a line? Sherry ===== Sherry Greer Lady Penguinevere Designs ladypenguin@tsgreer.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Aug 24 15:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:21:42 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: "Spitzer, Charlie" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bungi: a glass question Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:04:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com>> Precedence: bulk On panels that fit into an existing opening I always use H came so it can be trimmed down if necessary. For the person who has made the panel too big, if the outside edge is zinc, it should probably be removed and pieces on the outside be trimmed down and the edge replaced. Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 25 05:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!UserDusty From: UserDusty@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4f.334abde6.2c7b40f0_boundary" Subject: Re: Dirty Iron Tip Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:37:36 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_4f.334abde6.2c7b40f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! All, Nice to see some of us are still tufting it out. There is a lot of good information at this site and I know if I have a question where I can go for some answers. This group is worth some minor inconvenience from time to time. >From my understanding on soldering tips. There made of copper and the silver color on the end is a nickel plating. The tip will still get dirty from bad solder and the coating that is on zinc came. I think it has a coating on it to keep it from corroding. I would still use a wet sponge the block and retin it when it gets dirty. Good luck. Your friend in glass, Ken O Decorative Glass --part1_4f.334abde6.2c7b40f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! All,

Nice to see some of us are still tufting it out.  There is a lot of goo= d information at this site and I know if I have a question where I can go fo= r some answers. This group is worth some minor inconvenience from time to ti= me.

>From my understanding on soldering tips.  There made of copper and the=20= silver color on the end is a nickel plating.  The tip will still get di= rty from bad solder and the coating that is on zinc came.  I think it h= as a coating on it to keep it from corroding.  I would still use a wet=20= sponge the block and retin it when it gets dirty. Good luck.

Your friend in glass,

Ken O
Decorative Glass

 --part1_4f.334abde6.2c7b40f0_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Aug 25 12:51:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Dirty Iron Tip Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:15:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk yes, and if you wear through the nickel plating to the copper by either use, wire brushing, or filing, you'll need a new tip fairly soon. damhikt also, the larger the more heat retention, which allows you to solder faster and a longer line in one go. i like to use a 3/8" tip. i would imagine that a 1/4" tip would be good for some types of decorative soldering, but not for general purpose. regards, charlie cave creek, az -----Original Message----- From: UserDusty@aol.com [mailto:UserDusty@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:38 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Dirty Iron Tip Hi! All, Nice to see some of us are still tufting it out. There is a lot of good information at this site and I know if I have a question where I can go for some answers. This group is worth some minor inconvenience from time to time. >From my understanding on soldering tips. There made of copper and the silver color on the end is a nickel plating. The tip will still get dirty from bad solder and the coating that is on zinc came. I think it has a coating on it to keep it from corroding. I would still use a wet sponge the block and retin it when it gets dirty. Good luck. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACLYIEAAEQADRENUE1MDAwAgeE --xxxx ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Aug 26 18:11:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!WaynLinda From: WaynLinda@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: glass visions Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:14:03 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk I think this past weekend, there was a gathering, something called Glass Visions maybe? Didi anyone go? What is the web site? Thanks in advance. I always get good answers form this group! Linda ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 27 06:09:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 05:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: urbanet.ch!mich From: mich@urbanet.ch To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Thank you! Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:45:41 -0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@urbanet.ch> Precedence: bulk From: mich@urbanet.ch Subject: Changement d'adresse L'adresse mich@urbanet.ch est remplacйe par mich01@hispeed.ch. Merci d'en tenir compte et de modifier votre agenda. Salutations - Mich ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 27 16:11:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: texasonlinehelp.com!webhelp From: webhelp@texasonlinehelp.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Details Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:18:32 -0500 Message-ID: <200308271818.h7RIIWO30345@ai.x25.net> References: <<200308271818.h7RIIFA30135@ai.x25.net>> Precedence: bulk Dear TexasOnline Customer, Thank you for choosing TexasOnline for your Texas e-Government resource. The TexasOnline Technical Support team has received your inquiry. An additional follow-up email response will be sent to address your specific question or concern. We value your support and strive to offer the highest level of customer service and technical support. While TexasOnline is continuing to improve and expand our products and features, we hope that all of your State and Local government needs will soon become accessible via TexasOnline. Please call our customer service center at 877-452-9060 if you have any urgent questions or concerns. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 27 17:09:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!GlassLites From: GlassLites@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: glass visions Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:26:45 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk Yes, Linda. Glass Visions was this passed weekend. It was held at Warner-Crivellaro in Allentown, PA. Their website is www.glassvisions.com I went for Saturday and Sunday. It was great. Especially so, since I won a really great door prize... a kiln!!!! OK. just a small Paragon QuickFire VI. But it was free! I can't wait for it to be delivered. They had a great selection of manufacturers showing off their products. All I talked to really knew their stuff. Great free seminars from some of the glass greats like Tommy "G", Joe Porcelli, Vicki Payne, etc. And the opportunity to wander through the whole warehouse picking and chosing anything and everything at great discounts. Just to wander among all those rows of glass....... I guess I had a good time. Cheryl in NJ In a message dated 8/26/03 9:11:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, WaynLinda@aol.com writes: > I think this past weekend, there was a gathering, something called Glass > Visions maybe? Didi anyone go? What is the web site? > Thanks in advance. I always get good answers form this group! > Linda ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 27 19:09:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: aol.com!Bergjuca From: Bergjuca@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bungi: my peacock that's too big... Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:16:05 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk well, its not anymore!! thanks, all you bungi friends! ok, after mulling over the options and the suggestions everyone sent me, i decided, and knowing that i'm pretty lazy when it comes to specifics, i thought, what the heck, i'm just going to cut the whole thing down and see what happens. now understand, its 78" long and a million little pieces, so undoing it, cutting each piece individually, refoiling...phewy. too much work. and cutting out the window, my dear best buddy offered his muscles and time, but hey this is a rental so really i didn't want to hastle with that. well, i took off the lead border (i never remember the dimentions but its the skinniest you can buy) that was really easy too. i figured it would be tougher, but i had only soldered one side so it came off with very little effort--with a really hot solder iron on the places it was attatched. i put the pattern back on the glass after assuring it actually fit the window, and marked the new border. cut the glass 1/4" or so shorter than the pattern, and i can't tell you how easy it was to cut the glass like that! only a few places did i have to get the side snips to cut through solder, and replaced the lead came. it took all of about 45 minutes!!! now i'm about halfway through soldering the back side and feel on top of the world again! you experts who've been doing this a long time know i'm sure, how your heart can sink when you realize that all that work and effort ends in a piece that isn't like you envisioned it, or doesn't fit! well, i'm really proud of this project and thanks to you all, i'm back on the right track!!! picture soon! jules from canada ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Aug 27 19:09:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: midlandengineering.com!Administrator From: To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. 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Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Aug 29 17:16:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #540 built 2003-May-24) X-Path: se.rr.com!carolynmt From: "Carolyn Taylor" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C36D7F.10923F80" Subject: Window Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:11:40 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@se.rr.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C36D7F.10923F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a rectangle window with glass about 12'x60' above my entrance = double doors that I would like to do in stained glass. Should this be = done in sections or one piece ? =20 = Carolyn ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C36D7F.10923F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a rectangle window with glass = about 12'x60'=20 above my entrance double doors that I would like to  do in stained = glass.=20 Should this be done in sections or one piece ?    =
 
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