It has been a pleasure to learn I think here those of you who see the message see both a font and size change. Once we collect a few of these "blank" messages, see what email programs produce them, and can read and can't read them, we can then zero in on the settings we use in our email programs. I may need to change my settings or some others may need to change theirs. The list has 3 choices: Do this on the list - or send privately to me - or tell me to drop the whole thing and not another word about it!!! OK? - Cecily ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Feb 15 22:08:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:40:52 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: doorpi.net!mmam5 From: "Marci" To: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: blank emails and Bungi Opportunities!! Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:32:25 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@doorpi.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk Hi Cecily, I got Wayne's email in the format you received it - -I figure it was just a different format or program than mine - weird - but I use outlook 6 too! Wayne your second message came thru fine! I haven't received any empty posts, but then if it didn't say bungi or glass and looked like junk mail, I may have just deleted them. Love hearing from everyone. . . Just wish I had more time to expand into some of these new opportunities I'm reading about!! :) Thanks! Marci Martin Designs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" To: "Wayne R. Munro" ; "Bungi Glass" Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: blank emails > Hi Wayne and List: > > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 07:40:04 -0800 > From: "Wayne R. Munro" > Subject: Fw: need help (Bungi) > To: Glass Club > > I wonder if we can really track down the causes of the blank emails, so > we can tell people what they can do to avoid this happening. It so > happens that for me, this email was blank. All I see is > > "Wayne R. Munro" wrote: > > If I ask my Mac Netscape 4.79 to view as source, I see a number of > things (besides the message) which might be clues. Although I am a > "techie", my area is not communications, so I may be picking up the > wrong clues. But if we look at these problematical messages carefully > we may be able to tell people how to avoid sending messages some cannot > read. > > So, Wayne you are chosen as our first guinea pig simply because you were > unlucky enough to post to the list after I decided to see if we couldn't > REALLY solve things, rather than just complaining. Would you please > post to the list again, and tell us what email program and version you > are using? Examples might be Netscape, Outlook Express, Eudora, and > there are many more. And, group - if you had no problem reading Wayne's > message, would you please send a note to the list giving your email > program and version and telling us you could read Wayne's post. > Likewise, if you could not read Wayne's post, also send to the list and > tell us you had a problem, and what email program and version you were > using. Do tell us what operating system you use, also (Mac 6.1 or Mac > 9.2.2 or Mac 10.2, MS-DOS, Windows 98, Windows 2000, etc.) Plus, if you > use AOL, tell us and what version of that (4, 6, etc.) > > Needless to say - if someone has already reported your email program and > the result you had, don't bother to send a message. Those of you who > are bored with this can simply delete any posts with Re: blank emails. > > Now, when I view the long header that came with this post, I see several > things that might be clues although I'm not certain what they mean. I > do know that Mozilla is associated with Netscape: > > Content-type: multipart/alternative > Precedence: bulk > X-Path: telus.net!wayneglass > X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > X-UIDL: 536-1010680534 > > Then we have a bit more before the body of the message shows: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C1B5F3.FB5952A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Note where it says "Content-Type: text/plain:". At that point Netscape > then prints the body of the message in plain text, except for displaying > = at the end of lines - which I take to be soft returns as the text > wordwraps. Then below this easily read part comes some more information > which I take to be another clue: > > ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C1B5F3.FB5952A0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Now Netscape repeats the body of the message, but it looks rather like > this: > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >

Hi gang...I have stayed out of this up > = > til now, but=20 > I feel I must agree with almost all that has been said. I have been = > fortunate to=20...etc. etc. etc. > > Note that here the Content-Type is text/html in the space before the > message - and all the stuff in the message header that nobody ever sees > in a message like "meta" "style" "/head" "body". In other words this is > written in html and all this stuff at the beginning is formatting > information, and when we actually get into the body, instead of the soft > return being =, it is now =20. I'm going to show a bit more of the text > so you can see how formatting can be inserted in the middle of text. > > it sure is to = > many=20 > others, especially the one who asked.

It has been a pleasure to learn > > I think here those of you who see the message see both a font and size > change. > > Once we collect a few of these "blank" messages, see what email programs > produce them, and can read and can't read them, we can then zero in on > the settings we use in our email programs. I may need to change my > settings or some others may need to change theirs. > > The list has 3 choices: Do this on the list - or send privately to me - > or tell me to drop the whole thing and not another word about it!!! OK? > - Cecily > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Feb 15 23:13:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:50:13 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: gjr From: gjr@bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Las Vegas Glass Expo Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:48:48 PST Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Aloha everyone, Just wondering who I might look out for at the glass expo this year... (March) Who's going?? Jill? Bob? Ann? see ya there! -- Glenna Rand gjr@bungi.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 01:51:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 01:26:33 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; Subject: Re: blank emails and Bungi Opportunities!! Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:38:14 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk Wayne, did you change font or font size when writing that first note? - Cec Marci, you mean you saw the message with all the additional html tags? Or you saw it blank? - Cec Marci wrote: > Hi Cecily, > > I got Wayne's email in the format you received it - -I figure it was just a > different format or program than mine - weird - but I use outlook 6 too! > Wayne your second message came thru fine! I haven't received any empty > posts, but then if it didn't say bungi or glass and looked like junk mail, I > may have just deleted them. > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 02:22:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:13:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Change Address Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:45:25 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@lvcm.com>> Precedence: bulk change my email address to: esavad@comcast.net thanks ---Mike Savad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby" To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Need Help (Bungi) > Dear All, > > "In the Olden Days" of Bungi, there occasionally popped up a small handful > of individuals who either had very short fuses,used imflammatory language, > were a bit "oddball" or just plain rude. Given the fact that Bungi has a > global membership, sparks were flying left, right and centre. At one stage, > it got so bad, that Glenna (our moderator....and HER that must be obeyed > -> ), took Bungi off the air completely. When Bungi was re-instated, she > and Dave had changed the system, so that everybody had to THINK before they > hit the reply button. With other words, if A responded to something B had > written which had got up A's nose, the likelihood of everyone else having to > suffer the sparks got more remote. Having to edit who you sent your reply > to, encouraged having to take a breath ..... perhaps then also consider > further editing. > On the whole this has worked. > The cost is, that interesting questions and replies occasionally don't > reach the group as a whole. > > Back to lurkerdom. > > EliSabeth 'n Toby in UK > new website: www.northlights.co.uk > > > Joan wrote: > > > > Part of the problem lies with the way this list is set > > up. In order for the answers to be seen by the entire > > list, you either have to click on "reply all" or > > copy/paste the glass@bungi.com address in. I know I am > > used to merely clicking 'reply' and have, at times, > > sent a reply only to the sender, when that was not my > > intention. > > > > I also still receive many blank e-mails.... no text > > whatsoever. Does this still happen to others??? > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 02:31:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:17:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: "Wayne R. Munro" , Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; Subject: Re: blank emails Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:27:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<3C6DBCEB.5C238F26@comcast.net>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk Well that was very interesting. I got BOTH of this message - in the inbox and in Bungi. Can read it perfectly - both copies. And when I went to view it in source, there is only the text message - no html! I can see the long headers in the messages as normal are slightly different than in the source. Here is last part of the long header from the blank message: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:32:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 07:40:04 -0800 From: "Wayne R. Munro" Subject: Fw: need help (Bungi) To: Glass Club Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@telus.net> Content-type: multipart/alternative Precedence: bulk X-Path: telus.net!wayneglass X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 536-1010680534 Note the Content-type as multipart/alternative And here is the last part of the long header from the second message: <20020216021615.VHF28817.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@computer>; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:16:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:22:07 -0800 From: "Wayne R. Munro" Subject: Re: blank emails To: cecnralph@comcast.net CC: Glass Club Message-ID: <000901c1b690$bba23440$cf76b440@bc.hsia.telus.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <1970Jan1.000.0@telus.net> <3C6DBCEB.5C238F26@comcast.net> X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 542-1010680534 Note there the Character-type is text/plain!!! Also note that this one states Microsoft OLEMime, and Outlook Express, and I can tell Wayne is using a PC because the Content Transfer Encoding is 7 bit and would likely be 8 bit if it were a Mac. And you did the exact same thing you did before, except you sent it also to me? Isn't that strange? I know I have my Netscape set to send both html and text - mainly because I have to use the html formatting setting to send links or embed graphics. However embedding links should be ok for text messages. And I think that the first message was also set to send both types, and the second one was set for only text. How curious. And the long header was taken from the Bungi message, not the one from inbox (it was the same for all except the path the messages took.) I wonder if it is a relay host that is making the difference. Maybe when it goes to bungi following one path it gets handled as text, and if it takes a different path it gets read and passed on as html. If I have some time tomorrow, I'll go back through old messages (yes I'm a pack rat) and see if there is something that looks like a pattern. Thank you Wayne!!! - Cec "Wayne R. Munro" wrote: > Cecilly: > OK lets try this. I will respond to you as well as the list. I sent the > original post this morning and it. Didn't even come back to me. May be a > clue there. I still haven't got my own post. Just your reply. (Must be a > ghost in here!!) I am using Outlook Express 6. Just sending normally, no one > else seems to be having trouble getting my mail outside the list. I would be > suspicious of the server or set up at source. I will send my original post > to you only rather than to the bungi. (Let me know how it works. > > Wayne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 07:01:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:47:23 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: home.com!kristc From: "Kris" To: "Glass Club" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: blank emails Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 07:48:37 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@telus.net>> Precedence: bulk This is what I got... plain text followed by the same message in html. I have MS Outlook 2000 on a PC running Windows 98, comcast cable for an ISP. I am sending in plain text. Thanks Wayne for being our guinea pig! It will be nice if we can solve this long standing problem. Kris -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Munro [mailto:wayneglass@telus.net] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:40 AM To: Glass Club Subject: Fw: need help (Bungi) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C1B5F3.FB5952A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang...I have stayed out of this up til now, but I feel I must agree = with almost all that has been said. I have been fortunate to learn from = the group (and it is rare to have so many people willing to help others = without 'payment up front') The resourses are endless and more valuable = than any book or video. The problem before was someone would ask a = question and if some inconsiderate person didn't like the question or = wanted to pretend they were so much smarter, then they would flame the = world. (All they really had to do if they weren't interested or = disagreed, was hit delete.) We all just have to sit back and remember, = we all learned from someone or by committing expensive mistakes. Chill = out, flamers, Everyone who asks a question has the right to the respect = of a decent and civil answer (or to be respectfully ignored). Just = because it isn't important to the flamer, it sure is to many others, = especially the one who asked.=20 It has been a pleasure to learn form you all, and to occasionally pass = on my "wit" and 2 bits worth as well as any help I can; it would be a = shame to loose the resource of this "club" because some people can't = chill out or find the 'delete' key on their keyboard. Wayne ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C1B5F3.FB5952A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi gang...I have stayed out of this up = til now, but=20 I feel I must agree with almost all that has been said. I have been = fortunate to=20 learn from the group (and it is rare to have so many people willing to = help=20 others without 'payment up front') The resourses are endless and more = valuable=20 than any book or video. The problem before was someone would ask a = question and=20 if some inconsiderate person didn't like the question or wanted to = pretend they=20 were so much smarter, then they would flame the world. (All they = really=20 had to do if they weren't interested or disagreed, was hit = delete.) We=20 all just have to sit back and remember, we all learned from someone or = by=20 committing expensive mistakes. Chill out, flamers, Everyone who asks a = question=20 has the right to the respect of a decent and civil answer (or to be = respectfully=20 ignored). Just because it isn't important to the flamer, it sure is to = many=20 others, especially the one who asked.

It has been a pleasure to learn form = you all, and=20 to occasionally pass on my "wit" and 2 bits worth as well as any help I = can; it=20 would be a shame to loose the resource of this "club" because some = people can't=20 chill out or find the 'delete' key on their keyboard.

Wayne

------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C1B5F3.FB5952A0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.320 / Virus Database: 179 - Release Date: 01/30/2002 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 07:11:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:49:37 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!CUngv From: CUngv@aol.com To: belloraph@uaemail.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: urgent assistance(don't bother reading this spam/scam) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:13:13 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 08:07:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 07:58:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!Roxie1824 From: Roxie1824@aol.com To: gjr@bungi.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17e.3ae4b5c.299fdb5e_boundary" Subject: Re: Las Vegas Glass Expo Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:57:18 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_17e.3ae4b5c.299fdb5e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you please give me the dates for the Expo in Las Vegas. It sounds very interesting :) Loret Michigan --part1_17e.3ae4b5c.299fdb5e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you please give me the dates for the Expo in Las Vegas. It sounds very interesting :)

Loret
Michigan --part1_17e.3ae4b5c.299fdb5e_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 09:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:47:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; Subject: Re: blank emails Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<135.982fac6.299f99bd@aol.com>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk Maybe, if we can figure out what goes on with the different email programs, and the right settings, a spreadsheet or at least some kind of a HowTo could be put on the website - seems like Dave and Glenna wouldn't mind. You probably would have to have 2 sets of settings, since you probably use the built-in AOL mail/software unless one of the kids is already using it, when you use Outlook Express (that's the mail half of Internet Explorer). By "right" settings, I'm meaning settings that work for Bungi and all your other emailings so you don't have to change settings. CncptThnkr@aol.com wrote: > Cec, > > I hope you can uncover the source of the problems, I use aol or aol.com > through internet explorer if one of my kids is using my aol account. I don't > get many blank messages any more but do see the ones with all the 20's and > equal signs (formatting) in them. Now I need to pay attention to under what > circumstances I am seeing them. They really are annoying. > > Among other things, I am an accounting person, the first thing that came to > mind was a spreadsheet of who can't read or properly read each other's e mail > along with what programs they were using. > > I just want to let you know I am impressed with your knowledge of so many > subjects and willingness to help others. Keep up the good work. > > Pat ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 09:18:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:50:06 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: doorpi.net!mmam5 From: "Marci" To: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: blank emails and Bungi Opportunities!! Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:44:21 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@doorpi.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk Saw it the way you disected it. . . I get a few that way - Ha - I was thinking they were just coming from a foreign (non-U.S.) country - - guess I was wrong!! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" To: "Bungi Glass" Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: blank emails and Bungi Opportunities!! > Wayne, did you change font or font size when writing that first note? - Cec > > Marci, you mean you saw the message with all the additional html tags? Or you > saw it blank? - Cec > > Marci wrote: > > > Hi Cecily, > > > > I got Wayne's email in the format you received it - -I figure it was just a > > different format or program than mine - weird - but I use outlook 6 too! > > Wayne your second message came thru fine! I haven't received any empty > > posts, but then if it didn't say bungi or glass and looked like junk mail, I > > may have just deleted them. > > > > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 11:15:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:13:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!Awbaxter From: Awbaxter@aol.com To: Roxie1824@aol.com, gjr@bungi.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_162.8f28193.299fe8f1_boundary" Subject: Re: Las Vegas Glass Expo Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:55:13 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_162.8f28193.299fe8f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is great, Loret. March 7-10, 2002. Here's the web site: Glass Craft Expo 2002 Let me know if you're going.. Ann (in Michigan!) --part1_162.8f28193.299fe8f1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is great, Loret. March 7-10, 2002. Here's the web site:
Glass Craft Expo 2002

Let me know if you're going..
Ann
(in Michigan!) --part1_162.8f28193.299fe8f1_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 11:46:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:15:27 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!GlassLites From: GlassLites@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Las Vegas Glass Expo Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:31:52 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk The Expo is March 7-10. Lots of classes. And a show room. But the classes are what it's about for me. I'll be there. Cheryl Lowe NJ In a message dated 2/16/02 11:08:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, Roxie1824@aol.com writes: > Can you please give me the dates for the Expo in Las Vegas. It sounds very > interesting :) > > Loret > Michigan ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 12:17:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:02:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: cox.net!Bobfuses From: "Bobfuses" To: "bungi" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Las Vegas Glass Expo Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 07:31:34 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> References: <> Precedence: bulk >>Just wondering who I might look out for at the glass expo this year... (March) Who's going?? Jill? Bob? Ann?<< Thinking about it but no firm plans yet. Will NOT be an exhibitor. Bob in 92026 Please note new E-mail address of: bobfuses@cox.net ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 16:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:03:38 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: "Christie A. Wood" Subject: Re: bungi:Fire polishing Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:19:33 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@verrier> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@compuserve.com>> Precedence: bulk Christie, I am not a safety expert, but I find no difficulty in looking into a kiln at up to 800C (about 16ooF). The most damage is done at molten glass temperatures or in lamp work, as far as I read. Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@compuserve.com>, Christie A. Wood writes >Message text written by Steve Richard >>Christie, > Fire polishing is taking the glass to its softening point. The >temperature is dependent on the glass and is above the slumping point, >but below the fusing point. A little experimentation on the kind of >glass you intend to use will determine the temperature to be used. A >lot of visual checking of the glass while firing is needed so you can >see when the glass smoothes out. Then turn the kiln off, if you are >using a small piece. If you are using a larger piece, you must anneal >it.< > >Steve (et al)...thanks for the info on fire polishing. I have two kilns >which are in use 6 days a week doing glass bottle slumping. But I never >have the need to look inside the kiln. I understand looking inside a ver= >y >hot kiln can ?damage your eyes? Is this true? In order to do a lot of >visual checking of the glass during firing, would I need to invest in tho= >se >UV protective glasses? > >Christie A. Wood >Art Glass Ensembles >Denton, TX >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 20:47:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:37:06 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Sherry Greer Subject: blank messages Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:14:20 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@verrier> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com>> Precedence: bulk Sherry, I don't know how many of us get blank messages, but I don't. At least only about 2 or 3 per year. Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com>, Sherry Greer writes >Just a note to point out that NOT every email program has a 'Reply All' >button, as many email programs are completely text based and don't use >the mouse at all. Also, 'Reply All' results in one person getting that >email twice-addressed solely to him, and addressed to Bungi. Clutters >up the mailbox. Most email programs however will let you set up >'nicknames' or shortcuts, where you type in for example 'GlassList' >(mine) or just 'Glass', or even 'GL' and you configure the program to >autochange that to Bungi's address. >As a footnote, I also receive blank messages (about half of those that >I receive!) When I first joined the list, I asked the moderator about >this, and he said that I'd have to switch email programs to fix it! >I'm sure it's not the HTML vs. text thing, as my browser accepts both >types of mail, so it must be a Bungi bug. I've never had this problem >on any other list I belong to. >Anyway, Happy Valentine's to all! >Sherry > > >===== >Sherry Greer >texpenguin@yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! >http://greetings.yahoo.com >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 16 22:20:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:17:05 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: ameritech.net!stoneage From: "KD" To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__BFEA4D1D4352B0688BF409B49C0F6DFC__" Subject: Natural stone tables Date: 16 Feb 02 22:37:47 -0500 Message-ID: <20020217055902.HAUV24881.mailhost.det.ameritech.net@ameritech.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --__BFEA4D1D4352B0688BF409B49C0F6DFC__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Product Updates: For our new natural stone tables, please sign in early for the dealership program. 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glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Feb 17 11:20:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:59:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; Subject: Infection? Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk It may be possible that someone on the list with a PC is infected with W32.Magistr.39921@mm. I received a message (Symantec) telling me something had been deleted. However, I was not able to determine which message triggered the removal. - Cecily ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Feb 17 13:06:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:33:48 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: island.net!seaspray From: "Synergy Glass" To: "Christie A. Wood" , "Bungi" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Acid etching Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:34:15 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@island.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@compuserve.com>> Precedence: bulk Or you can do what I did this Christmas. Take a nice snowflake (I used some pre-stamped from craft foam) and attach it to the glass with spray adhesive. Apply etching cream around it et voila...a reverse snowflake. Carol Swann Synergy Glass & Creative ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christie A. Wood" To: "Bungi" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: Acid etching > Message text written by Claire Fuller > >In a recent email about Christmas ornaments Christie mentioned acid > etching. > Can anyone (or Christie) explain more about what that is and how to do it= > ?< > > It's SOOOOO EASY. Purchase a small bottle of > Acid-Etch or Etch-All cream from your local stained > glass retail supplier. Print out a nice design onto > some sort of contact paper or label paper. I use > full-page white label paper which can be used in > my deskjet printer. Then remove the backing from > the paper, put it onto the glass, and carefully cut out > the design using a very sharp exacto-type knife. > Follow the instructions on the etching cream (except > I always leave it on for 3 minutes instead of the 1 in > order to ensure a good smooth etch). When you > rinse off the etching cream, the water will soften up > the label paper, which will just peel off. Voila! > Etched glass. > > Christie A. Wood > Art Glass Ensembles > Denton, TX > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Feb 17 17:03:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:48:46 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!CUngv From: CUngv@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: blank messages Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:09:28 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk If anyone is keeping track, I use AOL 5.0 for email and I can't remember ever getting a blank e-mail. Carolyn Gilinsky ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Feb 17 19:13:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:01:27 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: doorpi.net!mmam5 From: "Marci" To: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Infection? Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:45:17 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@doorpi.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net>> Precedence: bulk Hmmmm - I had this a.m. also! It's not been the first time. . . Thank goodness for live update!! :) Marci ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" To: "Bungi Glass" Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: Infection? > It may be possible that someone on the list with a PC is infected with > W32.Magistr.39921@mm. I received a message (Symantec) telling me > something had been deleted. However, I was not able to determine which > message triggered the removal. - Cecily > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Feb 18 06:47:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:34:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: scc.net!oddjob From: Sue Reitmann To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Subject: Retail Source for 96 COE dichro Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:33:28 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@scc.net> Precedence: bulk I am looking for a retail source that carries 96coe dichro. I prefer the smaller packages that retail anywhere from $3.00 to $15.00. Preferably the pattern designs. I live in Minneapolis and none of the retailers here carry it nor are they willing to at this time. I have briefly scanned the net, but have only found places that sell wholesale which won't help me. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sue ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Feb 18 08:15:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:32:34 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: mindspring.com!pigznpawz From: "Jerri" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: for all you hobbiests Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:30:34 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> Precedence: bulk Hi all, Hobby Lobby has their glass on sale with the website coupon this week. You just print it out and take it in. It's buy one, get one for 1 cent. My hobby lobby only has Specturm, but it's a good deal. The address for the coupon: http://www.hobbylobby.com/site2/coupons/week8.gif Jerri www.beadbimbo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Feb 18 10:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:04:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com!DF125031 From: "Becker, Donna" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: RE: for all you hobbiests Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:03:05 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com> Precedence: bulk Jerri, Thanks - I really appreciate when you send these, so I thought there must me a way to get them regularly like you do. I went to http://www.hobbylobby.com/hlsurvey.cfm filled out their survey and signed up for the weekly coupon. I'm sure it's not always glass, but I'm looking forward to when it is :-) Anyway, if anyone else is interested, it takes about 2 minutes. Donna Becker Senior Consultant II Office 630-469-5726 Cell 630-248-0184 donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerri [mailto:pigznpawz@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:31 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: for all you hobbiests Hi all, Hobby Lobby has their glass on sale with the website coupon this week. You just print it out and take it in. It's buy one, get one for 1 cent. My hobby lobby only has Specturm, but it's a good deal. The address for the coupon: http://www.hobbylobby.com/site2/coupons/week8.gif Jerri www.beadbimbo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 04:52:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 04:40:02 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: mindspring.com!pigznpawz From: "Jerri" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: for all you hobbiests Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com>> Precedence: bulk Hi Donna, If you get the Sunday paper, check their ad, or check their online ad every week too. A couple of weeks ago, the stained glass was on sale for 1/2 price. I get the website coupon every week, and it's usually not anything I want, but it's worth it when it is! Jerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becker, Donna" To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: for all you hobbiests > Jerri, > Thanks - I really appreciate when you send these, so I thought there must me > a way to get them regularly like you do. I went to > http://www.hobbylobby.com/hlsurvey.cfm > filled out their survey and signed up for the weekly coupon. I'm sure it's > not always glass, but I'm looking forward to when it is :-) > Anyway, if anyone else is interested, it takes about 2 minutes. > > Donna Becker > Senior Consultant II > Office 630-469-5726 > Cell 630-248-0184 > donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com > > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 06:31:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:16:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: yahoo.com!frank_usaus From: frank mane To: frank_usaus@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: INQUIRY Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:14:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Dear sir, I am Mr Frank Mane the son of late Dr Benson Mane of Sierra Leone.and mother . My father was the director general of diamond and gold minning co-operation of sierra leone during the civilian regime of president Tijan Kabbah before the rebels collaborrated with some soldiers and overthrew president Kabbah, and my father was arrested. They only allowed us two visits per month and on one of the visits,two days before my father was assassinated by the rebel forces of Mr Foday Sankoh,he instructed me and my younger brother Humphrey to move out of Sierra Leone immediately, before the powerful Economic Community of West Africa Monitoring Groups (ECOMOG) forces intervened which eventually resulted into a war. I and my little brother Humphrey therefore manage to escape from Sierra Leone to Abidjan, C�te d'Ivoire through the help of my father's friend who is a diplomat. We came into Abidjan with some valuables, properties titles including a deposit certificate for a cash sum of US$10,000,000 (ten million United States Dollars) which my late father deposited with a bank here in Abidjan, C�te d''voire with his name. On getting here in Abidjan, we made inquiries with the bank and discovered that the money is still there. Meanwhile we want to leave C�te d'Ivoire entirely with this money for investment in your country because of the stable political situation and mostly for my future and that of my younger brother Humphrey if you can please help us. I and my brother have resolved to compensate you highly for your noble assistance upon the term of agreement that will be reach, for your percentage with us. For the safety of our lives, treat this matter with high confidentiality. Please kindly contact us as soon as you receive this e-mail,so that we can discuss this issue and plan of how to carry on . Upon request , I am ready to foward to you the duplicate copies of the deposit papers which my father handed over to me . May God bless you Best Regards. FRANK MANE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 06:54:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:46:10 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: yahoo.com!frank_usaus From: frank mane To: frank_usaus@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: INQUIRY Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Dear sir, I am Mr Frank Mane the son of late Dr Benson Mane of Sierra Leone.and mother . My father was the director general of diamond and gold minning co-operation of sierra leone during the civilian regime of president Tijan Kabbah before the rebels collaborrated with some soldiers and overthrew president Kabbah, and my father was arrested. They only allowed us two visits per month and on one of the visits,two days before my father was assassinated by the rebel forces of Mr Foday Sankoh,he instructed me and my younger brother Humphrey to move out of Sierra Leone immediately, before the powerful Economic Community of West Africa Monitoring Groups (ECOMOG) forces intervened which eventually resulted into a war. I and my little brother Humphrey therefore manage to escape from Sierra Leone to Abidjan, C�te d'Ivoire through the help of my father's friend who is a diplomat. We came into Abidjan with some valuables, properties titles including a deposit certificate for a cash sum of US$10,000,000 (ten million United States Dollars) which my late father deposited with a bank here in Abidjan, C�te d''voire with his name. On getting here in Abidjan, we made inquiries with the bank and discovered that the money is still there. Meanwhile we want to leave C�te d'Ivoire entirely with this money for investment in your country because of the stable political situation and mostly for my future and that of my younger brother Humphrey if you can please help us. I and my brother have resolved to compensate you highly for your noble assistance upon the term of agreement that will be reach, for your percentage with us. For the safety of our lives, treat this matter with high confidentiality. Please kindly contact us as soon as you receive this e-mail,so that we can discuss this issue and plan of how to carry on . Upon request , I am ready to foward to you the duplicate copies of the deposit papers which my father handed over to me . May God bless you Best Regards. FRANK MANE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 07:22:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:46:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: yahoo.com!frank_usaus From: frank mane To: frank_usaus@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: INQUIRY Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Dear sir, I am Mr Frank Mane the son of late Dr Benson Mane of Sierra Leone.and mother . My father was the director general of diamond and gold minning co-operation of sierra leone during the civilian regime of president Tijan Kabbah before the rebels collaborrated with some soldiers and overthrew president Kabbah, and my father was arrested. They only allowed us two visits per month and on one of the visits,two days before my father was assassinated by the rebel forces of Mr Foday Sankoh,he instructed me and my younger brother Humphrey to move out of Sierra Leone immediately, before the powerful Economic Community of West Africa Monitoring Groups (ECOMOG) forces intervened which eventually resulted into a war. I and my little brother Humphrey therefore manage to escape from Sierra Leone to Abidjan, C�te d'Ivoire through the help of my father's friend who is a diplomat. We came into Abidjan with some valuables, properties titles including a deposit certificate for a cash sum of US$10,000,000 (ten million United States Dollars) which my late father deposited with a bank here in Abidjan, C�te d''voire with his name. On getting here in Abidjan, we made inquiries with the bank and discovered that the money is still there. Meanwhile we want to leave C�te d'Ivoire entirely with this money for investment in your country because of the stable political situation and mostly for my future and that of my younger brother Humphrey if you can please help us. I and my brother have resolved to compensate you highly for your noble assistance upon the term of agreement that will be reach, for your percentage with us. For the safety of our lives, treat this matter with high confidentiality. Please kindly contact us as soon as you receive this e-mail,so that we can discuss this issue and plan of how to carry on . Upon request , I am ready to foward to you the duplicate copies of the deposit papers which my father handed over to me . May God bless you Best Regards. FRANK MANE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 07:33:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:12:28 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: yahoo.com!frank_usaus From: frank mane To: frank_usaus@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: INQUIRY Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:14:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Dear sir, I am Mr Frank Mane the son of late Dr Benson Mane of Sierra Leone.and mother . My father was the director general of diamond and gold minning co-operation of sierra leone during the civilian regime of president Tijan Kabbah before the rebels collaborrated with some soldiers and overthrew president Kabbah, and my father was arrested. They only allowed us two visits per month and on one of the visits,two days before my father was assassinated by the rebel forces of Mr Foday Sankoh,he instructed me and my younger brother Humphrey to move out of Sierra Leone immediately, before the powerful Economic Community of West Africa Monitoring Groups (ECOMOG) forces intervened which eventually resulted into a war. I and my little brother Humphrey therefore manage to escape from Sierra Leone to Abidjan, C�te d'Ivoire through the help of my father's friend who is a diplomat. We came into Abidjan with some valuables, properties titles including a deposit certificate for a cash sum of US$10,000,000 (ten million United States Dollars) which my late father deposited with a bank here in Abidjan, C�te d''voire with his name. On getting here in Abidjan, we made inquiries with the bank and discovered that the money is still there. Meanwhile we want to leave C�te d'Ivoire entirely with this money for investment in your country because of the stable political situation and mostly for my future and that of my younger brother Humphrey if you can please help us. I and my brother have resolved to compensate you highly for your noble assistance upon the term of agreement that will be reach, for your percentage with us. For the safety of our lives, treat this matter with high confidentiality. Please kindly contact us as soon as you receive this e-mail,so that we can discuss this issue and plan of how to carry on . Upon request , I am ready to foward to you the duplicate copies of the deposit papers which my father handed over to me . May God bless you Best Regards. FRANK MANE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 08:24:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:41:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: yahoo.com!frank_usaus From: frank mane To: frank_usaus@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: INQUIRY Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:14:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Dear sir, I am Mr Frank Mane the son of late Dr Benson Mane of Sierra Leone.and mother . My father was the director general of diamond and gold minning co-operation of sierra leone during the civilian regime of president Tijan Kabbah before the rebels collaborrated with some soldiers and overthrew president Kabbah, and my father was arrested. They only allowed us two visits per month and on one of the visits,two days before my father was assassinated by the rebel forces of Mr Foday Sankoh,he instructed me and my younger brother Humphrey to move out of Sierra Leone immediately, before the powerful Economic Community of West Africa Monitoring Groups (ECOMOG) forces intervened which eventually resulted into a war. I and my little brother Humphrey therefore manage to escape from Sierra Leone to Abidjan, C�te d'Ivoire through the help of my father's friend who is a diplomat. We came into Abidjan with some valuables, properties titles including a deposit certificate for a cash sum of US$10,000,000 (ten million United States Dollars) which my late father deposited with a bank here in Abidjan, C�te d''voire with his name. On getting here in Abidjan, we made inquiries with the bank and discovered that the money is still there. Meanwhile we want to leave C�te d'Ivoire entirely with this money for investment in your country because of the stable political situation and mostly for my future and that of my younger brother Humphrey if you can please help us. I and my brother have resolved to compensate you highly for your noble assistance upon the term of agreement that will be reach, for your percentage with us. For the safety of our lives, treat this matter with high confidentiality. Please kindly contact us as soon as you receive this e-mail,so that we can discuss this issue and plan of how to carry on . Upon request , I am ready to foward to you the duplicate copies of the deposit papers which my father handed over to me . May God bless you Best Regards. FRANK MANE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 15:08:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:57:46 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: cox.net!lorley From: Lorley Oneyear To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-51C71BBA; boundary="=======5F691901=======" Subject: silicone Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:38:35 -0700 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020219153433.00a92590@pop.west.cox.net> Precedence: bulk --=======5F691901======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-51C71BBA; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'll be using a tube of silicone gel (clear rubber sealant) to hold a 12 X 12 piece of stained glass in a wooden frame. The silicone is made by GE and comes in a 10 oz tube which is dispensed via a caulking gun. It'll probably be months and months before I need it again. Is there any way to keep the silicone fresh. I've tried stopping up the hole with a golf tee (the golf tee broke off) and a nail (didn't work either).. Or do I just assume that one tube is for a one time only use? Lorley --=======5F691901=======-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Feb 19 20:21:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:55:39 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: centurytel.net!mistykat From: "Peggy Ness" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: blank Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:46:43 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@centurytel.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1B98E.EB98F890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just upgraded to xp and changed from netscape to outlook I haven't = received any more blank emails. I have my brouser set for both text and = html. Peggy ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1B98E.EB98F890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just upgraded to xp and changed from = netscape to=20 outlook I haven't received any more blank emails. I have my = brouser set=20 for both text and html. Peggy

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1B98E.EB98F890-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Feb 20 03:36:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:21:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: att.net!elsiemt From: elsiemt@att.net To: Lorley Oneyear Subject: Re: silicone Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:20:01 +0000 Message-ID: <20020220112001.EXIY557.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Precedence: bulk I have succesfully used a screw on others types of sealent tubes, the twisting seems to make a better airtight seal. Good Luck Elsie > I'll be using a tube of silicone gel (clear rubber sealant) to hold a 12 X > 12 piece of stained glass in a wooden frame. The silicone is made by GE and > comes in a 10 oz tube which is dispensed via a caulking gun. It'll probably > be months and months before I need it again. Is there any way to keep the > silicone fresh. I've tried stopping up the hole with a golf tee (the golf > tee broke off) and a nail (didn't work either).. Or do I just assume that > one tube is for a one time only use? Lorley ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Feb 20 04:08:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:37:20 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry Phibbs To: Lorley Oneyear , glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: silicone Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:33:35 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> References: <<5.1.0.14.2.20020219153433.00a92590@pop.west.cox.net>> Precedence: bulk Hi Lorley, First off, the silicone is available in much smaller packages, down to 1.5 oz squeeze tubes, so while there is some economy in the larger caulking gun tube, if you can't use it all and don't want to risk the rest of it curing off in the tube, then by all means buy it in smaller tubes, and use it fresh each time. The silicone typically has a 3 year "shelf life", meaning that for a time period from when it was packaged in that tube, it has three years of usable life before it starts to cure off inside the tube. However, since you have no idea how long the stuff may have been sitting on the shelf at your supplier, or how long it was sitting on the shelf at their vendor's warehouse, or how long it may have been sitting at other warehouse locations, that three years figure can be very confusing. For myself, I put a large wood screw or 1/4" lag screw into the opened silicone tube. I expect that the silicone will cure down on that screw thread, but if I need to use it again within say.. six months, I can pull out the cured "plug" of silicone by pulling that screw out. The silicone will hold a bit better to the rougher threaded screw than it will to smooth sided nails. Sometimes it requires splitting the nozzle to get the cured plug out, but for small amounts that's not that big a deal. One other thing. Any opened tube of silicone that's been sitting around for any length of time, may well have cured or partially cured glops of harder silicone embedded in it, which can make using opened tubes somewhat more difficult for larger projects, since these harder glops can make getting a nice clean bead with the silicone impossible. Good luck.. personally I like two similar (but different) products a bit better for glass. The first is the industrial cement E-6000, which cures up much faster, is also clear, and has much better holding power (in my experience). The second is Lexel, a similar product that is a bit thinner than the silicone or E-6000, so it spreads out a bit better, and it holds much better than the silicone, especially in areas that are going to be wet on occasion. Lexel is also much clearer cured than the silicones. But, whatever works for you. Peace -Gerry ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Feb 20 13:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:55:42 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: hot.rr.com!pkelly From: "Patrick Kelly" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: silicone Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:04:15 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@hot.rr.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net>> Precedence: bulk The best way to save the silicone is to use a wire connector. You might have them around your house or in the garage. Absent that you can buy them at any hardware or home improvement center. Only use the type that have a threaded metal insert in the middle. They come in various gauge various sizes and threads. These screw on and make an airtight seal. The different sizes make it nice when you cut off the tips of the silicone to make the wider beads. Patrick Roses and Rainbows PS yes I am still around.... ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Feb 20 16:42:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:13:11 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: northlights.co.uk!toby From: "Toby" To: "Patrick Kelly" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: silicone Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:02:55 -0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@northlights.co.uk> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@hot.rr.com>> Precedence: bulk Hey Patrick, m'dear. Nice to see that you are still around... How does the glass tutu fit these days?? It would be great - one of these days - to welcome you here Across the Pond. C'mon! Retire from that horrible job you do and pack your 'n your missus' bags 'n get your lovely legs and tutu Over Here! P.S. We certainly had some fun.... ah, yes.... and chez Nadine.... Looking at that petite little lady and saw the heights and widths of the stained glass panels she had produced/ installed for her place. Pint size lady and MEGA stained glass Oh WOW!! Love to Babe and young companion. I still remember chasing Babe all round the housing complex..., sprinting across peoples' kitchen window, through their front gardens, charging through summer bbq's on the patio. Feeling a right old hick; apologizing in my terribly British/Swedish accent as I blundered along. Nadine, don't worry....calender continuation to follow..... Patrick, the Texas T-shirt is big enough for me to wear as a night shirt in winter! Love it!! The Horrible Viking 'n Hound From Baskerville in UK ( plus EXTRA Hound!) aka E 'n T in UK Patrick wrote: > > The best way to save the silicone is to use a wire connector. You might have > them around your house or in the garage. Absent that you can buy them at any > hardware or home improvement center. Only use the type that have a threaded > metal insert in the middle. They come in various gauge various sizes and > threads. These screw on and make an airtight seal. The different sizes make > it nice when you cut off the tips of the silicone to make the wider beads. > > Patrick > Roses and Rainbows > > PS yes I am still around.... ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Feb 21 11:05:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:03:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: netzero.net!heesunstainedglassltd From: "heesunstainedglassltd" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Maryland Invitation Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:47:12 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@netzero.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C1BAD5.E1C578A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are proud to announce yet another year has passed and it's time again = for our annual anniversary sale This weekend Feb 23 & 24 th . 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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BAD1.7E4E33B0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Feb 21 16:21:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:58:55 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!GlassLites From: GlassLites@aol.com To: aglassact@shaw.ca, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Las Vegas Glass Expo Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:56:12 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk Hi from New Jersey! The "host" hotel is the Stratosphere at the northern end of "the Strip". The organizers will be providing transportation to the convention center (Cashman Center). Most people will be staying at the Stratosphere. The Sahara is directly across the street so you might check room prices at both. Check out the show's website www.glasscraftexpo.com They do have a group rate at the Stratosphere. But some have said they found better prices surfing around the web (have no idea where on the web). Consider coming! If not this year maybe next. Cheryl Lowe In a message dated 2/21/02 2:02:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, aglassact@shaw.ca writes: > Hi from Canada! > Oh the thought of going to an expo like this is truly tempting!....What > hotel does everyone stay at and are the rooms a reasonable price?Darn > canadian money just doesn't cut it anymore lol! > Thanks In -Advance for any info > Jennifer Smith ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Feb 21 18:27:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:22:41 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: heesunstainedglassltd , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; Subject: Re: Blank Messages Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:07:09 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@netzero.net>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk Research in Progress: Bungians who received this as non-blank: - Was it formatted, with any bold, or italics? Font changes? Colors? Just reply to me - don't clog up Bungi - thanks! Hi Robert - changed ISPs did you? I'll change my address book. This email was one of the "blank" emails Bungi occasionally gets, but your subscribe email was not blank - I could read the business name and new address and all just fine. I'm trying to track down what happens at the senders end and who gets blanks and who doesn't. So - I had to view it in Source format to read the message. I assume you did both messages in Outlook Express (definately Windows), the previous message was all text, and in this one you used html fairly extensively, but you sent this message as mime in both text and html formats. So far, that is the case with the "blank" messages. Seems like on these messages, Bungi's server is passing along both kinds of formats. Netscape does have a setting (not default) which I am going to try. They warn that this setting may "break" other email messages, so I'll see what happens. Using the other setting may louse up other lists I belong to, so this will be an experiment. Netscape is perfectly capable of doing html messages - and occasionally I will have been the culprit, and when the message comes back to me, it may be blank, to my chagrin. heesunstainedglassltd wrote: ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Feb 21 23:06:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:51:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: msn.com!heesunsg1 From: "ROBERT keane" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BB23.CCCED100" Subject: Maryland Invitation 2nd Attempt Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:04:57 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@msn.com> Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BB23.CCCED100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We would like to extend an invitation to anyone in the area to attend our= anniversary sale and party this weekend Saturday 12-6 Sunday12-4. We wi= ll have numerous door prizes, demonstrations, food, and "Crate Sales". W= e have relocated to a much larger shop with ample parking, and easy acces= s. We are now located in the Tower Center on RT 140 in Finksburg, MD. =20 Our Crate Sales will be Saturday at 2 and 4 pm and Sunday at 2 pm. We wi= ll draw names for the door prizes on Sunday and will notify the winners o= n Tuesday. We will be drawing for a grinder, free glass, grinding heads,= and much more..... Hope to see some of you here, Robert, Jeanne, and Emilie. Hee Sun Stained Glass, LTD. 2025 Suffolk Road Suite 9 Finksburg, MD 21048 410-833-3007 http://www.heesun.com =20 sales@heesun.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http= ://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BB23.CCCED100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We would like = to extend an invitation to anyone in the area to attend our anniversary s= ale and party this weekend Saturday 12-6 Sunday12-4. We will have n= umerous door prizes, demonstrations, food, and "Crate Sales". We ha= ve relocated to a much larger shop with ample parking, and easy access.&n= bsp; We are now located in the Tower Center on RT 140 in Finksburg, MD.&n= bsp;

Our Crate Sales will be Saturday at 2 and 4 pm and Sunda= y at 2 pm. We will draw names for the door prizes on Sunday and wil= l notify the winners on Tuesday. We will be drawing for a grinder, = free glass, grinding heads, and much more.....

Hope to see some of you here,

Robert, Jea= nne, and Emilie.

Hee Sun Stained Glass, LTD.
2025 Suffolk Road = Suite 9
Finksburg, MD 21048
410-833-3007
http://www.heesun.com <= BR>sales@heesun.com

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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BB23.CCCED100-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Feb 22 06:47:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 06:41:11 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; Subject: Re: Blank Messages Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:06:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> References: <<200202220827_MC3-F310-25E6@compuserve.com>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk I received several replies - thank you. However I'm not quite certain whether you were referring to MY message or Robert's. It was Robert's first message about this weekend's sale that I was referring to. Now that my settings are changed - I did see Robert's second message. Did it show up as blank to anyone? Thanks - we are getting closer to solving the problem - Cec "Christie A. Wood" wrote: > Message text written by Cecily & Ralph Wood > >Bungians who received this as non-blank: - Was it formatted, with any > bold, or italics? Font changes? Colors? Just reply to me - don't clog > up Bungi - thanks!< > > I use Compuserve as my email program. Your message arrived as plain text > without any bold, italics, font changes or colors. The text wrapped around > nicely. > > Christie A. Wood > Art Glass Ensembles > Denton, TX ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Feb 22 09:54:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:24:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: talentstoshare.com!glassartist From: "Cheryl Parrott" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: test non/glass Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:22:18 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@talentstoshare.com> Organization: The Glass Parrott Precedence: bulk I don't seem to be getting all the messages sent to the group. This is a test to see if this is going to come through. Cheryl Parrott Theglassparrott@hotmail.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 11:26:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 10:55:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: cox.net!gunnx4 From: "Suzanne Gunn" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: What's "intermediate" ? Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:49:36 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> Organization: glsasdancer Precedence: bulk If you have just had a beginning glass class...what would you want included in your intermediate class? What would you guys consider "intermediate"? Those of you that teach, what do you teach in your intermediate classes? I was thinking of more difficult glass cuts. More lead lines intersecting etc... Ideas, opinions welcome. Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 12:28:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:25:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: aol.com!Awbaxter From: Awbaxter@aol.com To: gunnx4@cox.net, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8a.147d79d2.29a95449_boundary" Subject: Re: What's "intermediate" ? Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:23:37 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_8a.147d79d2.29a95449_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Suzanne, A lot would depend on what your beginner class included. I taught a leaded panel for beginners, then took them to copper foil and a simple lamp for intermediate. That included a new skill (copper foil) and new construction (3-d piece instead of flat), and emphasized better cutting. Or intermediate lead could include more intricate designs, more curves, use of different sized leads, etc. Also, you could add use of better glass, ripples, etc. and show the difference in quality of the finished piece with hand-selected art glass. Ann --part1_8a.147d79d2.29a95449_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Suzanne,
A lot would depend on what your beginner class included.

I taught a leaded panel for beginners, then took them to copper foil and a simple lamp for intermediate. That included a new skill (copper foil) and new construction (3-d piece instead of flat), and emphasized better cutting.

Or intermediate lead could include more intricate designs, more curves, use of different sized leads, etc. Also, you could add use of better glass, ripples, etc. and show the difference in quality of the finished piece with hand-selected art glass.
Ann --part1_8a.147d79d2.29a95449_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 12:48:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:59:46 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: comcast.net!esavad From: Mike Savad To: Suzanne Gunn , glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: RE: What's "intermediate" ? Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:56:38 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@comcast.net> Precedence: bulk hard to say, it depends on what they did in the begginers course. begginer, would be learning to cut glass, foil, solder, maybe basic design. intermediate, they should know the basics. they should be able to cut glass (not real hard stuff, but enough). they should know how to solder a basic sun catcher and maybe a box. advanced, would be the two things before. they should know how to free out deep cuts. solder, and bead. and stuff like that. ---Mike Savad -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne Gunn [mailto:gunnx4@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:50 PM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: What's "intermediate" ? If you have just had a beginning glass class...what would you want included in your intermediate class? What would you guys consider "intermediate"? Those of you that teach, what do you teach in your intermediate classes? I was thinking of more difficult glass cuts. More lead lines intersecting etc... Ideas, opinions welcome. Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 13:28:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:25:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Suzanne Gunn Subject: What's "intermediate" ? Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:19:53 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@verrier> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net>> Precedence: bulk Suzanne, I'd say an intermediate class is one that is trying to get the people to be independent. Yes there are still lots of questions, but they should have a series of principles that they apply to various design and construction problems. This is where you take a back seat and ask the students the question "what have you tried/done to solve this problem?" in response to their questions. It becomes an environment in which students are encouraged to develop their own solutions to challenges, rather than rely on yours. Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net>, Suzanne Gunn writes >If you have just had a beginning glass class...what would you want included >in your intermediate class? > >What would you guys consider "intermediate"? > >Those of you that teach, what do you teach in your intermediate classes? > >I was thinking of more difficult glass cuts. More lead lines intersecting >etc... > >Ideas, opinions welcome. > >Suzanne > > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 16:00:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:37:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: cox.net!gunnx4 From: "Suzanne Gunn" To: "Steve Richard" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: What's "intermediate" ? Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:34:06 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> References: <> Organization: glsasdancer Precedence: bulk Thanks for your responses...They will help me plan this class. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Richard" To: "Suzanne Gunn" Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: What's "intermediate" ? > Suzanne, > I'd say an intermediate class is one that is trying to get the > people to be independent. Yes there are still lots of questions, but > they should have a series of principles that they apply to various > design and construction problems. This is where you take a back seat > and ask the students the question "what have you tried/done to solve > this problem?" in response to their questions. > It becomes an environment in which students are encouraged to > develop their own solutions to challenges, rather than rely on yours. > > Steve > > In message <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net>, Suzanne Gunn > writes > >If you have just had a beginning glass class...what would you want included > >in your intermediate class? > > > >What would you guys consider "intermediate"? > > > >Those of you that teach, what do you teach in your intermediate classes? > > > >I was thinking of more difficult glass cuts. More lead lines intersecting > >etc... > > > >Ideas, opinions welcome. > > > >Suzanne > > > > > >---- > >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > -- > Steve Richard > Verrier Art Glass Ltd > s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 16:16:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:45:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: cox.net!gunnx4 From: "Suzanne Gunn" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: response to Carol Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:44:09 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net> Organization: glsasdancer Precedence: bulk For the sake of sending to the group...I dont know if I sent this to just Carol...so am sending to the group as well. Please pardon me if this is a double message. Suzanne Carol, Are you using little bitty lead? Have you ever used "lead liner" tape? Sounds like it would fix your problem as long as the lead overlaps the glass when it's centered. I love the stuff. (Especially when building a panel that someone else has cut) I could use a class on using the morton system. I swear there is money to be made if someone could rewrite the instructions to where normal people could understand them. Ive watched and watched (is it Don?) the Morton man, but I really need more than a demo or two. By the time I get home, I have forgotten all Ive been shown! Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 18:04:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:54:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: neo.rr.com!lchesterjr From: "Leonard Chester" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: lead liner Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:24:25 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@neo.rr.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net>> Precedence: bulk > Are you using little bitty lead? > Have you ever used "lead liner" tape? Sounds like it would fix your problem > as long as the lead overlaps the glass when it's centered. I love the > stuff. (Especially when building a panel that someone else has cut) Suzanne what is "lead liner"? Candy (trying to learn all this stuff, lol) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Feb 23 18:13:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:55:12 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #534 built 2001-Jul-23) X-Path: hotmail.com!dancer1476 From: "Dancer" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: lead liner tape - bungi Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@hotmail.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@cox.net>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1BC9F.8DA446E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Suzanne, What is lead liner tape? I've never heard of it. I don't think I got the = original email question. Would love to see it. Thanks, Elaine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Suzanne Gunn=20 To: glass@bungi.com=20 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: response to Carol For the sake of sending to the group...I dont know if I sent this to = just Carol...so am sending to the group as well. Please pardon me if this = is a double message. Suzanne Carol, Are you using little bitty lead? Have you ever used "lead liner" tape? Sounds like it would fix your = problem as long as the lead overlaps the glass when it's centered. I love the stuff. (Especially when building a panel that someone else has cut) I could use a class on using the morton system. I swear there is = money to be made if someone could rewrite the instructions to where normal = people could understand them. Ive watched and watched (is it Don?) the = Morton man, but I really need more than a demo or two. By the time I get home, I = have forgotten all Ive been shown! Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1BC9F.8DA446E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Suzanne,

What is lead liner tape? I've = never heard=20 of it. I don't think I got the original email question. Would love to = see it.=20 Thanks, Elaine

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From:=20 Suzanne = Gunn