From owner-glass Fri Jun 1 19:39:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: cox.rr.com!ksee From: "KSee" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: hoaxes vs. virus Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:32:58 -0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cox.rr.com> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0EA64.B32D6620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Here are some links to bookmark for learning & finding out about hoaxes & virus's. In the last week I have received 6 copies of the "HAHAHA" Snow White Virus" I was alerted by Norton. My e-mails are scanned before they get into my inbox. It is worth the price to purchase a virus protection. As a word of caution, if you use your computer for business, it will be best that the kids have their own computer. A friend has just spent over 24 hours re-entering his business files (for the last 30 days) because his daughter went to "Nickelodeon" She clicked & locked up everything & wiped out invoices, records etc. So you don't even have to have it come to your inbox. http://www.scambusters.org/ http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/ http://www.research.ibm.com/antivirus/index.htm http://www.vmyths.com/ http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ http://vil.mcafee.com/ You can usually also find references through Google etc too. KSee See Glass www.kseeglass.com Director, NCAGG, www.ncagg.org Web Master, www.zgglass.com Day Job- www.socent.org ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0EA64.B32D6620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi=20 everyone,

Here are = some links=20 to bookmark for learning & finding out about hoaxes & virus's. = In the=20 last week I have received 6 copies of the "HAHAHA" Snow White Virus" I = was=20 alerted by Norton. My e-mails are scanned before they get into my inbox. = It is=20 worth the price to purchase a virus protection.

As a = word of=20 caution, if you use your computer for business, it will be best that the = kids=20 have their own computer. A friend has just spent over 24 hours = re-entering his=20 business files (for the last 30 days) because his daughter went to = "Nickelodeon"=20 She clicked & locked up everything & wiped out invoices, records = etc. So=20 you don't even have to have it come to your inbox.

 

http://www.scambusters.org/

http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/

http://www.research.ibm.com/antivirus/index.htm

http://www.vmyths.com/

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/

http://vil.mcafee.com/

You can usually also find references = through Google=20 etc too.

KSee
See Glass
www.kseeglass.com
Director, NCAGG, www.ncagg.org
Web Master, www.zgglass.com
Day Job- www.socent.org
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0EA64.B32D6620-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 1 20:38:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: home.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Elizabeth in Bournemouth (sp?) ? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> Organization: glassdancer Precedence: bulk Elizabeth, If you are still on Bungi would you email me please. Some one in UK was looking for a place in the UK to buy supplies and take classes. Wanted to pass on your info. Thanks Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 1 22:21:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: juno.com!aglassworks From: aglassworks@juno.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Just wondering........ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:02:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@juno.com> Precedence: bulk How many bungians are in the North Central Texas area? Assuming there are others, would anyone be interested in attempting to schedule a get together to discuss glass, share ideas, etc.? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 2 12:40:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: netscape.net!arthurslubin From: arthurslubin@netscape.net To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@netscape.net> Precedence: bulk Hi I am new to stained glass and I am looking for advice on cutting inside curves. thanks __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 2 14:17:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: sprintmail.com!searun From: "Maureen & David Humphreys" To: "Art glass" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Wales and art glass. Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:36:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@sprintmail.com> Precedence: bulk Hi, I headed for Wales in early Fall. Anyone know of a glass studio in Northern Wales I could visit? Maureen searun@sprintmail.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 2 17:56:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: teleport.com!weaver51 From: "Howard and or Elaine" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Albert Lewis email address Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:44:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@teleport.com> Organization: weaver51@teleport.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, thinking about re-joining the list...... I have not been able to get any posts to Albert. Has his address changed? I have alewis@alpha.nad.adelphia.net if it is not correct, PLEASE send me his new one. TIA, howard weaver51@teleport.com weaver51@onemain.com Elaine and Howard to see the best lamps on the "net" http://www.teleport.com/~cbs/howard ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 3 11:08:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: arthurslubin@netscape.net, Bungi Glass Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Gatewayed mail message Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:46:18 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<572E59EA.707A61C3.6D445A07@netscape.net>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk --------------64EA3882E68529B991993045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It never completely smooths over, but the surface tension re-establishes itself, though probably not as strong as before. Also, freshly cut glass edges are wicked sharp, but give them a vew days and they are less so, and if the glass has been sitting around for a long time, the edges are nowhere near as sharp. Even so, you are more apt to cut yourself choosing glass then when you are cutting it. You want to keep the cutting wheel at right angles to the glass, also. Otherwise the cut edge tends to slant one way and another and sometimes you get these really lethal very thin edges that extend outward on one side of the glass or the other - sort of flanges. If that happens, use the grozing edges of the pliers (the sawtooth edges), although that makes a mess, or rub a carborundum stick on the edges to dull them, or you can use a grinder, if you have access to one. I mentioned the word grinder. I now imagine we will get a lot of discussion of the merits of using grinders. There are two camps. The people who use traditional lead came are anti, and the ones who foil are pro - and there are good reasons for both viewpoints. However everyone agrees that you need to perfect the cutting skills rather than relying on the grinder. - Cec PS - you are using eye protection, aren't you? Just the cheap workshop goggles will do fine. arthurslubin@netscape.net wrote: > > > I did not know that the cut smoothed over. thanks > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ --------------64EA3882E68529B991993045 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It never completely smooths over, but the surface tension re-establishes itself, though probably not as strong as before.  Also, freshly cut glass edges are wicked sharp, but give them a vew days and they are less so, and if the glass has been sitting around for a long time, the edges are nowhere near as sharp.  Even so, you are more apt to cut yourself choosing glass then when you are cutting it.

You want to keep the cutting wheel at right angles to the glass, also.  Otherwise the cut edge tends to slant one way and another and sometimes you get these really lethal very thin edges that extend outward on one side of the glass or the other - sort of flanges.  If that happens, use the grozing edges of the pliers (the sawtooth edges), although that makes a mess, or rub a carborundum stick on the edges to dull them, or you can use a grinder, if you have access to one.

I mentioned the word grinder.  I now imagine we will get a lot of discussion of the merits of using grinders.  There are two camps.  The people who use traditional lead came are anti, and the ones who foil are pro - and there are good reasons for both viewpoints.  However everyone agrees that you need to perfect the cutting skills rather than relying on the grinder. - Cec

PS - you are using eye protection, aren't you?  Just the cheap workshop goggles will do fine.

arthurslubin@netscape.net wrote:

  
I did not know that the cut smoothed over.  thanks
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--------------64EA3882E68529B991993045-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 3 15:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: aol.com!CncptThnkr From: CncptThnkr@aol.com To: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: grinders vs grozers, lead vs. copper foil Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 18:21:30 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk In a message dated Sun, 3 Jun 2001 2:09:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Cecily & Ralph Wood writes: <> Cec, I disagree that it's lead vs. copper foil people, I think it's people who want to do things the "traditional way" and people who like modern conveniences. I like modern conveniences and I love gadgets, I have a grinder, bandsaw, came saw, beveler, chop saw, light box...basically, if it has a plug on it I "needed" it. I prefer lead over copper foil and use my grinder when I need it...I detest using grozers, hate the "chewing" glass noise, but like using a stone to smooth rough edges or take a fraction off. I do agree with you, developing skill at cutting is the most important factor. I've only used the band saw once and find it takes forever compared to cutting by hand, the same thing can be said for cutting poorly then grinding, very time consuming...if your original cuts are accurate you'll save lots of time. Ok, just wanted to let ya know all the lead people aren't traditionalist snobs who shun electricity ia (who is working without a safety net aka spell check) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 3 17:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: aol.com!Roxie1024 From: Roxie1024@aol.com To: CncptThnkr@aol.com, cecnralph@home.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a0.15600104.284c2f8a_boundary" Subject: Re: grinders vs grozers, lead vs. copper foil Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 20:25:46 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_a0.15600104.284c2f8a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would have to agree with Cncpt on this one. I feel that modern tools were created for convenience sakes. Stained glass is an art - just as carpentry is an art. When is the last time you saw a carpenter saw his wood by hand? Of course they use power tools - it does not make them less of an "artist". I believe the art and the talent are inside the artist - it is their imagination and their "eye" and their vision...it is the passion they have for the piece they are creating. Using a power tool does not diminish any of these things...it only makes it easier to complete the task at hand. I don't believe any of my finished pieces are any less spectacular or special or unique - just because I used a grinder vs. grozers. I think the bottom line here is - whatever works for the individual is what counts. If you are a happy grozer - then that is what works for you. If you feel more at ease using a power tool - then that is what works for you as well. But let's not try to make someone feel like less of an "artist" for doing so. I am fairly new to stained glass - and I am absolutely in love with this art. I think whatever facilitates people's passion for doing this truly unique and spectacular artform - should be accepted by all...after all - it's the love of glass that we all share that is important...isn't it? Loret Michigan --part1_a0.15600104.284c2f8a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would have to agree with Cncpt on this one.  I feel that modern tools were
created for convenience sakes.  Stained glass is an art - just as carpentry
is an art.  When is the last time you saw a carpenter saw his wood by hand?  
Of course they use power tools - it does not make them less of an "artist".

I believe the art and the talent are inside the artist - it is their
imagination and their "eye" and their vision...it is the passion they have
for the piece they are creating.  Using a power tool does not diminish any of
these things...it only makes it easier to complete the task at hand.  I don't
believe any of my finished pieces are any less spectacular or special or
unique - just because I used a grinder vs. grozers.  

I think the bottom line here is - whatever works for the individual is what
counts.  If you are a happy grozer - then that is what works for you.  If you
feel more at ease using a power tool - then that is what works for you as
well.  But let's not try to make someone feel like less of an "artist" for
doing so.  

I am fairly new to stained glass - and I am absolutely in love with this art.
 I think whatever facilitates people's passion for doing this truly unique
and spectacular artform - should be accepted by all...after all - it's the
love of glass that we all share that is important...isn't it?

Loret
Michigan --part1_a0.15600104.284c2f8a_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 3 19:05:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: home.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: CncptThnkr@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: grinders vs grozers, lead vs. copper foil Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Organization: glassdancer Precedence: bulk I dont know any glass person that doesnt grind some time, regardless of whether you are constructing for lead or foil. No matter how good a cutter you are, you will at some time need to grind or shim. Unless of course you like the waste glass. I dont know *any*one who likes to wasted glass. ;o) Scrap? What's that? Suzanne CncptThnkr@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated Sun, 3 Jun 2001 2:09:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Cecily & Ralph Wood writes: > > < on the grinder. - Cec >> > > Cec, > > I disagree that it's lead vs. copper foil people, I think it's people who want to do things the "traditional way" and people who like modern conveniences. I like modern conveniences and I love gadgets, I have a grinder, bandsaw, came saw, beveler, chop saw, light box...basically, if it has a plug on it I "needed" it. > > I prefer lead over copper foil and use my grinder when I need it...I detest using grozers, hate the "chewing" glass noise, but like using a stone to smooth rough edges or take a fraction off. > > I do agree with you, developing skill at cutting is the most important factor. I've only used the band saw once and find it takes forever compared to cutting by hand, the same thing can be said for cutting poorly then grinding, very time consuming...if your original cuts are accurate you'll save lots of time. > > Ok, just wanted to let ya know all the lead people aren't traditionalist snobs who shun electricity > > ia (who is working without a safety net aka spell check) > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 3 21:04:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 20:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: netaxs.com!maruca From: maruca@netaxs.com To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: smoothing flanges Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 23:57:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@netaxs.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@home.com>> Precedence: bulk Bungi wrote: [snip] you get these really lethal very thin edges that extend outward on one side of the glass or the other - sort of flanges. If that happens, use the grozing edges of the pliers (the sawtooth edges), although that makes a mess, or rub a carborundum stick on the edges to dull them, or you can use a grinder, if you have access to one. ************** If they are the really thin, razory edges you can knock them off by scraping a hunk of scrap glass the length of the cut. Hold the scrap perpendicular to your good piece and scrape away from you. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 4 00:40:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry Phibbs To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Re: Inside curves.. Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:22:24 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@netscape.net>> Organization: International Guild of Glass Artists, Inc. Precedence: bulk Arthur.. Can you be a bit more specific as to what you want to know about cutting inside curves? What sort of glass are you working with? What sort of cutter? How are you holding the cutter? Are you getting "fish scales" on your otherwise successful cut, or are you simply unable to make the inside cuts successfully? In a nutshell, I'd advise.. make sure the glass is clean before you start any cutting. Use a small diameter "pattern head" cutter, I prefer carbide, but it's not required. Hold the cutter as vertical as you reasonably can, and make your cut stroke with appropriate pressure but do so slowly and with control. Don't stop the cutter in its path, and finish it all with one single deliberate movement - you may find that using two hands helps to steady your cut. Once the cut has been made, if using transparent glass, turn the glass over onto a semi resilient surface, something with a bit of "give" to it, and press gently along the cut line from the back, you can "run" the cut. It takes practice, and patience, and nothing is for certain, but this is one way of accomplishing inside cuts. There are many others, as I'm sure you'll discover. Peace -Gerry ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 4 07:02:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #531 built 2001-May-20) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: cutting inside curves Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:41:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk 'how do i get to carnegie hall? practice.' the only method to learn this is to do lots of it. try getting scrap from window glass selling places and cutting it up to just toss out. they'll usually give you lots for free. i found ringstar pliers are helpful in cutting very deep inside curves. redesigning your pattern to not require them is another possibility. they do, after all, leave a very weak piece subject to later breaking. regards, charlie phx, az > -----Original Message----- > From: arthurslubin@netscape.net [mailto:arthurslubin@netscape.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:32 PM > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: Gatewayed mail message > > > Hi I am new to stained glass and I am looking for advice on > cutting inside curves. thanks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 4 19:26:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: earthlink.net!tester1211 From: tester1211@earthlink.net To: Subject: . Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 01:31:28 -1200 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> Precedence: bulk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 5 00:04:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!CWicks6159 From: CWicks6159@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Creating a Sphere Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:40:44 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk Thanks again to all of you for the help on elliptical circles. I've got the circle down, now to create the remainder of the pattern. My client picked a "busy" background color. Anyway I have another smaller commission of which I have no idea how to start. I've been asked to create a sphere with memorabilia in it. I said it would take a little research on my part. Please help me on this one it anyone has created such a design before. I can be emailed at cwicks6159@aol.com. Many thanks in advance. Cyndie ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jun 6 05:31:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Creating a Sphere Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:12:00 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@compuserve.com> Precedence: bulk Message text written by INTERNET:CWicks6159@aol.com >Anyway I have another smaller commission of which I have no idea how to = start. I've been asked to create a sphere with memorabilia in it. I sai= d it = would take a little research on my part.< I'm confused about what it is your making/designing. Is it 3-dimensional= , like a globe or a lampshade? Or are you talking about a panel with a circle (sphere)? And what type of "memorabilia" are you talking about? = A design to be copied? An actual object which will be incorporated into th= e "sphere"? If so, what is the object and what is the object's composition= (metal, plastic, ceramic, fine metals, etc.)? Christie A. Wood Art Glass Ensembles ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Jun 6 20:21:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!Shecharlie From: Shecharlie@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_dc.7677d63.28504a1e_boundary" Subject: help help Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:08:14 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_dc.7677d63.28504a1e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i made a teddy bear and put eyes on with super glue. i got some on the glass. how do i get the excess off the glass . please help thank you sheila shecharlie@aol.com --part1_dc.7677d63.28504a1e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i made a teddy bear and put eyes on with super glue. i got some on the glass.
how do i get the excess off  the glass . please help
thank you
sheila
shecharlie@aol.com --part1_dc.7677d63.28504a1e_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 7 00:08:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!CWicks6159 From: CWicks6159@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Super Glue on Glass Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 02:20:47 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk Hi Sheila, Here's a possible solution although I have not tried it on super glue. Try using Lacquer Remover, which is the same thing countertop maker use to remove excess adhesive after laying laminate or Formica. You need a well ventilated area to do it and it is highly flammable, so don't smoke if you are a smoker. Hope this solves your problem, it won't hurt the glass. Cyndie ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 7 02:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 02:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: earthlink.net!glasscutter From: Gerry To: Shecharlie@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Re: help help Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:20:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@earthlink.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Hi Sheila, Most any local hardware store will have some "Super Glue" remover, it's a carded item, put out by the same Super Glue folks. Frankly, it works very nicely, but it might seem a bit pricey for the amount of product you get. Another option would be either lacquer thinner, which is a blend of several solvents, or acetone which is a pure chemical. You might have some acetone available at home, perfume is added and it's put up in small bottles as "nail polish remover". Given the amount of product you get in those little bottles for the price, the Super Glue remover will seem cheap! Use a Q-tip dipped in the solvent, and work on small areas at a time, the solvent is very volatile and will evaporate quickly. You'll want to use some care, because any errant solvent that gets to those glued on eyes, will negatively affect that glue joint. Good luck.. use adequate ventilation, and remember to take precautions in storing both the glue and whatever solvent you select, as none of them should be available to children. Peace -Gerry ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 7 09:31:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: one.net!gwood From: "Gregg Wood" To: "Bungi" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: help help Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:18:44 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@one.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk acetone, finger nail polish. Cheap. It's what super glue remover is. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: help help > i made a teddy bear and put eyes on with super glue. i got some on the glass. > how do i get the excess off the glass . please help > thank you > sheila > shecharlie@aol.com > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 7 20:07:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: email.msn.com!bird_cage From: "bird_cage" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:07:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@email.msn.com> Precedence: bulk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 7 22:22:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: sprintmail.com!searun From: "Maureen & David Humphreys" To: "Art glass" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Leek?? Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:47:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@sprintmail.com> Precedence: bulk Anyone know where I can find leeks in bevels or a decent pattern?? My Welshman wants leeks in the next window! Help! Maureen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 8 19:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!Kutie9506 From: Kutie9506@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c4.157e966b.2852e304_boundary" Subject: mosiac furniture bases Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:25:08 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_c4.157e966b.2852e304_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I recieved this address from the internet. I am trying to find a source for wrought iron furniture to use for making mosiacs. Would you know of a source that provides this product? Any help you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Anne Kutie9506@aol.com --part1_c4.157e966b.2852e304_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
I recieved this address from the internet.  I am trying to find a source for
wrought iron furniture to use for making mosiacs.  Would you know of a source
that provides this product?  Any help you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much,  Anne
Kutie9506@aol.com --part1_c4.157e966b.2852e304_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 8 20:21:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!Beveler4 From: Beveler4@aol.com To: Kutie9506@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3f.166a77ad.2852eb96_boundary" Subject: Re: mosiac furniture bases Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:01:42 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_3f.166a77ad.2852eb96_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Anne, Check with any local retailer they should either have some or probably would be happy to get what ever you wanted. Beveler4 Stan --part1_3f.166a77ad.2852eb96_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Anne,
Check with any local retailer they should either have some or probably would
be happy to get what ever you wanted.
Beveler4 Stan --part1_3f.166a77ad.2852eb96_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 8 21:54:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: metrolink.net!mookie From: Chris Campbell To: Kutie9506@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: mosiac furniture bases Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 00:39:22 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@metrolink.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Delphi glass has a catalog with several wrought iron tables used for mosaics - you can go to their site and request a free catalog to be sent to you or look at them online. There are several websites that have wrought iron furniture bases and garden items for sale as well. Hope this helps. Chris ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 9 08:30:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Leek?? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:55:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@compuserve.com> Precedence: bulk Message text written by "Maureen & David Humphreys" >Anyone know where I can find leeks in bevels or a decent pattern?? My Welshman wants leeks in the next window! Help! Maureen< You might try Studio One. They specialize in wheel-engraved bevels. I don't recall a leek pattern, but I've had them do custom work for me before. I'm sure they can come up with something for you. Their prices are reasonable for the product they offer (IMHO). Studio One Design 1333 Milwaukee Ave. South Milwaukee, WI 53172 1-800-321-0631 fax 414-764-0629 Christie A. Wood Art Glass Ensembles ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 10 12:31:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!Gailchat1 From: Gailchat1@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary" Subject: Re-Soldering around Patina Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:10:35 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, My husband and I just finished a paneled hanging lamp. As luck would have it...we noticed a crack in one of the top panels. We have already applied the patina. We are gonna unsolder, and replace the panel. Are there any repercussion and/or advice to replacing this panel after the piece has had patina applied? Thanks Ronda --part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
My husband and I just finished a paneled hanging lamp. As luck would have
it...we noticed a crack in one of the top panels. We have already applied the
patina. We are gonna unsolder, and replace the panel. Are there any
repercussion and/or advice to replacing this panel after the piece has had
patina applied?
Thanks
Ronda --part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 10 12:49:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!Gailchat1 From: Gailchat1@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary" Subject: Re-Soldering around Patina Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:10:35 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, My husband and I just finished a paneled hanging lamp. As luck would have it...we noticed a crack in one of the top panels. We have already applied the patina. We are gonna unsolder, and replace the panel. Are there any repercussion and/or advice to replacing this panel after the piece has had patina applied? Thanks Ronda --part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
My husband and I just finished a paneled hanging lamp. As luck would have
it...we noticed a crack in one of the top panels. We have already applied the
patina. We are gonna unsolder, and replace the panel. Are there any
repercussion and/or advice to replacing this panel after the piece has had
patina applied?
Thanks
Ronda --part1_113.1c8e37.2855121b_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 10 17:18:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!bobfuses From: "Bob Duchesneau" To: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Re-Soldering around Patina Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:15:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C0F1B7.D3C535C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>We are gonna unsolder, and replace the panel. Are there any=20 repercussion and/or advice to replacing this panel after the piece has = had=20 patina applied?=20 It should not be a problem. Use fine steel wool to clean the patina back = away from the area and then carefully resolder, clean, patina and wax. = With care no one will never know of the repair. Bob in 92026 ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C0F1B7.D3C535C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>We are gonna unsolder, and = replace the=20 panel. Are there any
repercussion and/or advice to replacing this = panel=20 after the piece has had
patina applied?
It should not be a problem. Use fine = steel wool to=20 clean the patina back away from the area and then carefully resolder, = clean,=20 patina and wax. With care no one will never know of the = repair.
 
Bob in 92026
------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C0F1B7.D3C535C0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 10 21:32:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: Gailchat1@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Re-Soldering around Patina Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:41:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Organization: glassdancer Precedence: bulk You need to steel wool the area you want to resolder that has patina on it. Then solder, clean, re patina. Suzanne Gailchat1@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > My husband and I just finished a paneled hanging lamp. As luck would > have > it...we noticed a crack in one of the top panels. We have already > applied the > patina. We are gonna unsolder, and replace the panel. Are there any > repercussion and/or advice to replacing this panel after the piece has > had > patina applied? > Thanks > Ronda ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 12 21:47:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Roxie1024@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: grinders vs grozers, lead vs. copper foil Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:11:28 +0100 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@verrier> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk As this is a favourite topic of mine, I will enter the discussion too. In my view it is not about (solely) the use of grinder, band saw, and many of the other aids to doing glass work. It is ultimately about respecting the materials. You can do things to glass with grinders and saws that you cannot easily do without them. However, the tight curve that the grinder or saw enabled, is likely to have a crack start from it when you apply heat (if you are foiling), or when you are finishing the panel. The leaded and foiled glass media are stylised media, not realistic ones. The search for realism in glass leads to doing things that do not suit the medium. Ingenuity is required to depict an image in a way suitable for glass, rather than oil paintings (for example). It is what makes glass work different from other art and craft forms. It applies in other media as well as in glass. Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>, Roxie1024@aol.com writes > I would have to agree with Cncpt on this one.  I feel that modern > tools were > created for convenience sakes.  Stained glass is an art - just as > carpentry > is an art.  When is the last time you saw a carpenter saw his wood > by hand?   > Of course they use power tools - it does not make them less of an > "artist". > > I believe the art and the talent are inside the artist - it is > their > imagination and their "eye" and their vision...it is the passion > they have > for the piece they are creating.  Using a power tool does not > diminish any of > these things...it only makes it easier to complete the task at > hand.  I don't > believe any of my finished pieces are any less spectacular or > special or > unique - just because I used a grinder vs. grozers.   > > I think the bottom line here is - whatever works for the individual > is what > counts.  If you are a happy grozer - then that is what works for > you.  If you > feel more at ease using a power tool - then that is what works for > you as > well.  But let's not try to make someone feel like less of an > "artist" for > doing so.   > > I am fairly new to stained glass - and I am absolutely in love with > this art. >  I think whatever facilitates people's passion for doing this truly > unique > and spectacular artform - should be accepted by all...after all - > it's the > love of glass that we all share that is important...isn't it? > > Loret > Michigan -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 14 11:34:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: yahoo.com!grema_ahmed From: grema_ahmed@yahoo.com To: LOWSPUD@IBM.NET Content-Type: text/plain; charset="DEFAULT_CHARSET" Subject: Urgent Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:58:25 Message-ID: <200106141853.UAA29999@barracuda.cybaaspace.net> Precedence: bulk AHMED A. GREMA AHMED & ASSOCIATES BOOK SHOP BUILDING, 11TH FLOOR 23 BROAD STREET, LAGOS - NIGERIA FAX: 234 1 7596610 SIR, I WISH TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO YOU. I AM AHMED A. GREMA (SAN) SENIOR PARTNER OF AHMED & ASSOCIATES LAW CHAMBERS, A LAWYER/ATTORNEY TO HAMZA AL MUSTAPHA WHO WAS THE FORMER CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER TO THE MILITARY DICTATOR OF NIGERIA, GENERAL SANI ABACHA. THE LATE GENERAL SANI ABACHA DIED UNEXPECTEDLY ON THE 8TH OF JUNE 1998. HIS COLLEAGUES IN THE ARMY POISONED HIM IN THE PRESIDENTIAL VILLA (ASOROCK) BECAUSE HE RULED NIGERIA WITH AN IRON HAND AND HE DID NOT WANT DEMOCRACY IN THE COUNTRY. WITH THE DEATH OF THE DICTATOR, ELECTIONS WERE HELD IN THE COUNTRY AND A CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATION WAS SWORN INTO POWER. WITH THE ADVENT OF THE NEW CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATION, A DECISION WAS TAKEN BY THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA TO PROBE AND PROSECUTE ALL MILITARY OFFICERS THAT SERVED IN THE LAST MILITARY REGIME OF THE LATE GENERAL SANI ABACHA. MY CLIENT, MAJOR HAMZA AL MUSTAPHA WAS SINGLED OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY AS AN ARMY OFFICER THAT MUST BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF HIS CLOSENESS TO THE LATE DICTATOR AND GROSS HUMAN RIGHT ABUSES ON THE CITIZENS OF NIGERIA. MY CLIENT AND I WERE BEST OF FRIENDS AND HE SHARED HIS SECRETS WITH ME. THE FORMER CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER TO THE LATE HEAD OF STATE MAJOR HAMZA AL MUSTAPHA HAD PRIVATE ACCOUNTS THAT ARE WORTH 100 MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS AROUND THE WORLD. PRESENTLY HE HAS BEEN ARRESTED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY AND IS PRESENTLY IN PRISON WAITING TO BE TAKEN TO COURT ON CHARGES OF GROSS HUMAN RIGHT ABUSES ON THE CITIZENS OF NIGERIA. I WAS DIRECTLY INFORMED BY MY CONTACTS AT THE PRESIDENTIAL VILLA, THAT HE WILL BE CONVICTED BECAUSE OF HIS POSITION AS THE FORMER CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER TO THE LATE DICTATOR. SHORTLY BEFORE THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT ARRESTED MY CLIENT, HE ENTRUSTED TO ME THE SUM OF TWENTY -SIX MILLION, FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS (us$26,400,000.00) FOR SAFEKEEPING. THIS AMOUNT WAS TO BE SENT TO HIS MISTRESS IN LEBANON TO LAUNDER FOR HIM. I HAVE SINCE HAD THIS AMOUNT WITH ME STASHED AWAY A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY IN NIGERIA. I CANNOT SEND THIS MONEY TO MY CLEINT'S MISTRESS ANY MORE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION OF THINGS OVER HERE. AS A RESULT OF THIS I HAVE BEEN MANDATED BY MY CLIENT TO SOLICIT FOR A PARTNER ABROAD WHO IS WILLING AND READY TO ASSIST IN RECEIVING THE $26.4 MILLION. THEREFORE, I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE IN MOVING AND SECURING THIS MONEY IN YOUR ACCOUNT ABROAD. YOU WILL BE ADEQUATELY COMPENSATED WITH 15% OF THE TOTAL SUM FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE AND CO-OPERATION WITH ME TO MOVE THIS FUNDS OUT OF THE COUNTRY. I INTEND TO SAFEGUARD AND INVEST THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY ABROAD WITH A RELIABLE FOREIGN BUSINESS PARTNER SO THAT WE CAN INVEST THE FUNDS IN REAL ESTATE BUSINESS OR ANY VIABLE BUSINESS IN YOUR COUNTRY. THAT IS WHY I AM SOLICITING YOUR ASSISTANCE AND COOPERATION AS REGARDS THIS BUSINESS. ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN CONCLUDED WITH A SECURITY COMPANY IN EUROPE TO RECEIVE THE MONEY IN CASH DEPENDING ON WHERE IS CONVENIENT FOR YOU. PLEASE INDICATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ASSIST ME BY SENDING TO ME THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION; YOUR COMPANY NAME ADDRESS AND YOUR PRIVATE PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS SO THAT I CAN CONTACT YOU AND COMMENCE THE TRANSACTION IN EARNEST. I AM WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU VERY SOON. BEST REGARDS, AHMED A. GREMA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 14 17:04:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Re: Urgent Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:40:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk Well, that was an interesting variant on the old Nigerian scam spam. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 15 09:33:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: socal.rr.com!myates From: "Mary Yates" To: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Urgent Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:30:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@socal.rr.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@home.com>> Precedence: bulk My feelings exactly. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" To: "Bungi Glass" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Urgent > Well, that was an interesting variant on the old Nigerian scam spam. > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 15 10:35:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: stny.rr.com!thor From: "THOR" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Urgent Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stny.rr.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@socal.rr.com>> Precedence: bulk Im new to the List But am trying to fathom what that e mail had to do with glass? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 15 16:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: holtenwood.bc.ca!atwoods From: "Adriana & Timothy Atwood" To: "THOR" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Urgent Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:06:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@holtenwood.bc.ca> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@stny.rr.com>> Precedence: bulk Absolutely nothing. Any email list which has been around for a while, especially if the posts are archived in a place accessible on the internet, eventually gets its address on junk mail listings. The people who run the bungi list server try very hard to filter emails from known spammers. And they really do an excellent job. But every once in a while something slips through. This is a case of this. The couple of comments by bungi members were then just a way of letting people know this was a fraud to be ignored. ----- Original Message ----- From: "THOR" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Urgent > Im new to the List > But am trying to fathom what that e mail had to do with glass? > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 15 21:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!CWicks6159 From: CWicks6159@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Rod Iron Tables for Mosaic Designs Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:31:10 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk Several days ago someone was asking where they to get rod iron/tables for their mosaic designs. I knew I'd read it in one of my periodicals, anyway here's the scoop. In Stained Glass News, issue #50 a company called Sunshine Glassworks Ltd. advertised exactly what you were looking for. Unfortunately they didn't provide an address of any kind. I'm sure if you take some time to search the web you could locate this company. Hope this helps. Cyndie ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 16 03:29:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: massed.net!wmagdycz From: Elaine To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Rod Iron Tables for Mosaic Designs Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:17:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@massed.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Sunshine Glassworks Lts. 111 Industrial Parkway Bufalo, NY 14227-2712 800.8287159 orders@sunshineglass.com www.sunshineglass.com I just got a flyer from them and they have a wrought iron table on sale. Elaine CWicks6159@aol.com wrote: > Several days ago someone was asking where they to get rod iron/tables for > their mosaic designs. I knew I'd read it in one of my periodicals, anyway > here's the scoop. In Stained Glass News, issue #50 a company called Sunshine > Glassworks Ltd. advertised exactly what you were looking for. Unfortunately > they didn't provide an address of any kind. I'm sure if you take some time > to search the web you could locate this company. Hope this helps. > > Cyndie > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 16 04:00:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: massed.net!wmagdycz From: Elaine To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Rod Iron Tables for Mosaic Designs Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:21:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@massed.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Precedence: bulk Oops - that should be Ltd., not Lts. I saw the typo as the msg. disappeared into Bungiland. Elaine CWicks6159@aol.com wrote: > Several days ago someone was asking where they to get rod iron/tables for > their mosaic designs. I knew I'd read it in one of my periodicals, anyway > here's the scoop. In Stained Glass News, issue #50 a company called Sunshine > Glassworks Ltd. advertised exactly what you were looking for. Unfortunately > they didn't provide an address of any kind. I'm sure if you take some time > to search the web you could locate this company. Hope this helps. > > Cyndie > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 17 12:04:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: telus.net!mdoornberg From: "Maurits Doornberg" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Guild Membership Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:34:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@telus.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0F719.152A2320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like information about joining your guild. 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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0F719.152A2320-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 17 14:33:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!RATSSY From: RATSSY@aol.com To: GLASS@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.d2eecd7.285e7a7e_boundary" Subject: STAINED GLASS PATTERNS Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:26:22 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk --part1_2d.d2eecd7.285e7a7e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELLO: I AM INTERESTED IN RECEIVING STAINED GLASS PATTERNS. ALSO, I UNDESTAND THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO DIAMONDCRETE. WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE FORMULA. I AM HAVING BAD LUCK WITH CONCRETE LATELY. THANKS, LAURA --part1_2d.d2eecd7.285e7a7e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELLO:  I AM INTERESTED IN RECEIVING STAINED GLASS PATTERNS.  ALSO, I
UNDESTAND THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO DIAMONDCRETE.  WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO
HAVE THE FORMULA.  I AM HAVING BAD LUCK WITH CONCRETE LATELY.  THANKS, LAURA --part1_2d.d2eecd7.285e7a7e_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 17 21:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!CWicks6159 From: CWicks6159@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: "Leeks" Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:59:10 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk OK, now I'm really going to sound like a novice in glass. Would someone please explain what is meant by "Leeks" and how they are used. I've check the few reference books that I have including asking people and come up empty handed. Thank you for the class. Cyndie ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Jun 17 21:47:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: CWicks6159@aol.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: "Leeks" Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com>> Organization: glassdancer Precedence: bulk I think the question regarding leeks refered to a pattern for leeks. I believe they were refering to the vegetable. Im assuming they wanted to do a suncatcher or panel with a vegie theme. If that's not the case, I have no idea what they were referring to. Suzanne CWicks6159@aol.com wrote: > > OK, now I'm really going to sound like a novice in glass. Would someone > please explain what is meant by "Leeks" and how they are used. I've check > the few reference books that I have including asking people and come up empty > handed. > > Thank you for the class. > > Cyndie > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 07:02:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: hotmail.com!marybdaily From: "Mary B" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Custom Bevels Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:54:35 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@hotmail.com> Precedence: bulk I have a door repair which will require three custom-made bevels. Since I do not have a beveler and do not wish to invest this piece of equipment at the present time, can anyone suggest a supplier who can custom-make bevels from a supplied pattern? Thanks! MaryBinVA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 09:40:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: sprintmail.com!searun From: "Maureen & David Humphreys" To: "Art glass" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: The leek question. Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:24:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@sprintmail.com> Precedence: bulk Hi, I was the person who asked if the list folks knew of a pattern for the veg. Leek. The symbol of the leek is also used by the Welsh, much like the bald eagle is often used for America. So, as an historian I need a leek pattern. Sorry if I did not add a bit about the reason I am seeking such a pattern. Maureen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 12:02:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: Custom Bevels Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:27:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk try calling a local shop from your phone book. a stained glass shop, if they don't do it, will have a contact. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: Mary B [mailto:marybdaily@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:55 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Custom Bevels I have a door repair which will require three custom-made bevels. Since I do not have a beveler and do not wish to invest this piece of equipment at the present time, can anyone suggest a supplier who can custom-make bevels from a supplied pattern? Thanks! MaryBinVA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 13:44:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: pobox.com!nadinesfolly From: "Nadine BethSchneider" To: "Maureen & David Humphreys" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: The leek question. Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:40:06 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@POBox.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@sprintmail.com>> Precedence: bulk There was a beautiful pattern of leeks (I think) in glass patterns Quarterly a couple of years ago. I believe they have a website and I am sure they can tell you which issue featured this pattern. Good luck! Nadine Nadine Beth Schneider Nadine's Folly, Ltd www.nadinesfolly.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 17:33:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: mimas.island.net!root From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: Custom Bevels Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:27:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk try calling a local shop from your phone book. a stained glass shop, if they don't do it, will have a contact. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: Mary B [mailto:marybdaily@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:55 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Custom Bevels I have a door repair which will require three custom-made bevels. Since I do not have a beveler and do not wish to invest this piece of equipment at the present time, can anyone suggest a supplier who can custom-make bevels from a supplied pattern? Thanks! MaryBinVA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 18:56:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: Corpit.com!dterrill From: Dan Terrill To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: glazing nails? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@Corpit.com> Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F82D.A2BD36E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anyone know of a good online source for glazing nails? heck, what are the best spots for glass goodies online? I've been crawling around Stallin's place, but that's it. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F82D.A2BD36E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Anyone know of a good online source for glazing nails? heck, what are the best spots for glass goodies online? I've been crawling around Stallin's place, but that's it.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F82D.A2BD36E0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 20:33:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!lorley From: Lorley Oneyear To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: came/repair Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:02:19 -0700 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010618185832.00a2b4a0@mail> Precedence: bulk It's been about 5 years since I've done lead came. I am repairing a small panel and need just a tad of that DAP caulking stuff. Does anyone have a recipe to make up just a small bit. I believe it included turpentine and whiting? Also, will I have any problems matching up the came. The piece is about 20 years old and my came is much shinier. Do I just 0000 steel wool the older came to buff it up? Thanks, Lorley/Phoenix ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 18 22:33:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: Lorley Oneyear Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: came/repair Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:44:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<5.1.0.14.2.20010618185832.00a2b4a0@mail>> Organization: glassdancer Precedence: bulk You shouldnt have any trouble matching up the lead...and yes, steel wool is what I'd use. Suzanne Lorley Oneyear wrote: > > It's been about 5 years since I've done lead came. I am repairing a small > panel and need just a tad of that DAP caulking stuff. Does anyone have a > recipe to make up just a small bit. I believe it included turpentine and > whiting? Also, will I have any problems matching up the came. The piece is > about 20 years old and my came is much shinier. Do I just 0000 steel wool > the older came to buff it up? Thanks, Lorley/Phoenix > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 19 00:24:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: verizon.net!moya.oneal From: "Moya O'Neal" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: re:Leeks Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 03:33:39 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@verizon.net> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F7A7.76CCB460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A leek is an onion like vegetable. It makes a delicious soup. It is = great in stews, but more expensive than onion. It looks like a giant = spring onion or scallion. Hope this helps. Moya ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F7A7.76CCB460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A leek is an onion like vegetable.  It = makes a=20 delicious soup. It is great in stews, but more expensive than onion. It = looks=20 like a giant spring onion or scallion.  Hope this = helps.
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F7A7.76CCB460-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 21 00:03:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: aol.com!CWicks6159 From: CWicks6159@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Leeks? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:47:58 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@aol.com> Precedence: bulk Thanks for all of you who responded to my questions on Leeks. A couple days ago I received a response stating the original question was about a pattern for Leeks, which is not how I read it. My brain does shut off at times when I spend 8 hrs on a computer at my day job. My apologize for not reading carefully enough, but also thank you again to call that responded politely at my lapse of intelligence. Cyndie ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Jun 25 12:03:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: juno.com!gmacfarland From: gmacfarland@juno.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:50:22 EDT Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@juno.com> Precedence: bulk Dear Bungis: I haven't been on my computer in a while due to working long hours at work. I only wish I had been doing glass instead. I haven't received any email since the first part of June & I assume its because my mail got backed up. PLease add my name back to the list. Does anyone have any suggeestions of an email I can use that will allow me to get pictures as well as script but that is free access. If so please send info to me on how to get on it . Thanks, Gail in Mtns of Va gmacfarland@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 26 09:33:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!kristc From: "Kris" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: repair cracked glass Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:22:10 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> Precedence: bulk Big sidelight, homeowner is going to sell the property, doesn't want to go through the trouble of fixing it right (replacing the cracked piece). I know they fix cracks in windshields of cars so they are invisible. Can this be done with stained glass? Does anyone know how to do this or how to get the materials for this? Anyone have any "quick fix" ideas for this guy? Thanks!! Kris ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 26 11:26:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:04:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie.Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: repair cracked glass Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@stratus.com> Precedence: bulk i doubt that the same process would work. it involves injecting an epoxy into the crack, and it isn't invisible. if foiled: place a piece of foil on the glass on both sides. solder. if leaded: split the heart out of a piece of lead came that matches. solder it over the crack. this will appear as if the line actually belongs there. whether it fits into the pattern and looks well or not is another question. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: Kris [mailto:kristc@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:22 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: repair cracked glass Big sidelight, homeowner is going to sell the property, doesn't want to go through the trouble of fixing it right (replacing the cracked piece). I know they fix cracks in windshields of cars so they are invisible. Can this be done with stained glass? Does anyone know how to do this or how to get the materials for this? Anyone have any "quick fix" ideas for this guy? Thanks!! Kris ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 26 11:39:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: cornell.edu!bjs10 From: bjs10@cornell.edu To: Kris Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: repair cracked glass Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@cornell.edu> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@home.com>> Precedence: bulk Hi... a quick fix would be to take the glass out of the sidelight frame... replace it with window pane glass... or when he lists the property, disclose the cracked piece and sell property "as is". On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Kris wrote: > Big sidelight, homeowner is going to sell the property, doesn't want to go > through the trouble of fixing it right (replacing the cracked piece). I know > they fix cracks in windshields of cars so they are invisible. Can this be > done with stained glass? Does anyone know how to do this or how to get the > materials for this? Anyone have any "quick fix" ideas for this guy? Thanks!! > > Kris > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Jun 26 21:32:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:12:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Fwd: Re: repair cracked glass] Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk Sorry - I forgot to include Bungi and exclude BJS In Maryland, by law, the owner would have to indicate there is a crack, even if you covered it up, as suggested. Of course lots of people wouldn't bother and hope they got away with it. I forget where I was recently, but I noticed a repair like Charlie just suggested in a large prominent stained glass window or panel, and it looked like nobody intended to do anything more to it until the whole thing crumbled. Such a "repair" or cover-up would probably help stabilize the window by protecting the edges from further damage. - Cec bjs10@cornell.edu wrote: > Hi... a quick fix would be to take the glass out of the sidelight > frame... replace it with window pane glass... or > > when he lists the property, disclose the cracked piece and sell property > "as is". > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Kris wrote: > > > Big sidelight, homeowner is going to sell the property, doesn't want to go > > through the trouble of fixing it right (replacing the cracked piece). I know > > they fix cracks in windshields of cars so they are invisible. Can this be > > done with stained glass? Does anyone know how to do this or how to get the > > materials for this? Anyone have any "quick fix" ideas for this guy? Thanks!! > > > > Kris > > > > ---- > > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Jun 28 17:38:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: yahoo.com!texpenguin From: Sherry Greer To: GlassList Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: grinding Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Is it possible to use a rotary tool like a Dremel to grind glass? I'd like to put together a foil piece for a wedding present, but can't afford to go buy a grinder right now. After one very horrendous looking attempt, I've decided I'm just not good enough at cutting (especially those inside curves) yet to use my pieces unground. I have a Dremel and various grinding bits. Could I grind maybe under a trickle of water in the sink? Would I electrocute myself? Any other ideas? Thanks all. Sherry ===== Sherry Greer texpenguin@yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 29 15:54:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:30:22 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: yahoo.com!texpenguin From: Sherry Greer To: GlassList Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: grinding Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Thanks to all for your suggestions (and warnings!) on grinding. I think my friend will get a lovely photo album for her wedding instead of stained glass. I'll start saving my pocket change for that grinder. Maybe by Christmas...Or maybe my mom-in-law will get it for me for Christmas! I'll have to start dropping hints! Thanks again everyone. Sherry ===== Sherry Greer texpenguin@yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 29 21:29:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!lorley From: Lorley Oneyear To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: lampblack Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:03:36 -0700 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010629190249.00a4d220@mail> Precedence: bulk Where do I buy lampblack? Hardware store or do most stained glass places carry it? ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 29 23:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Bead Making Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org> Precedence: bulk As a natural extension to stained glass I have been making beads for the past 3 weeks. Later this fall I hope to take a class and in the meantime I am using Cindy Jenkins' book to learn how it is done. Having said all of that, is there anyone else on bungi that is doing lampwork? Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Jun 29 23:50:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Dan Terrill Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: glazing nails? Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@Corpit.com>> Precedence: bulk Dan: Glazing nails? or the horseshoe variety? The only source I know for glazing is Bendheim West (or East). The otherkind can usually be purchased from a hardware store. Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 30 10:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!bobfuses From: "Bob Duchesneau" To: "bungi" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: lampblack Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:52:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<5.1.0.14.2.20010629190249.00a4d220@mail>> Precedence: bulk >>Where do I buy lampblack? Hardware store or do most stained glass places carry it?<< Lampblack is carbon. You might find a stained glass store that has some for sale. For small quantities you can burn propane or acetylene rich and collect the smokey soot on a metal plate. My wood stove generates plenty. It only takes about one part in a hundred to color putty for stained glass. Bob in 92026 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 30 10:03:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: mindspring.com!pigznpawz From: "Jerri" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Bead Making Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 07:50:37 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@mindspring.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org>> Precedence: bulk Hi Peggy, I've been doing lampwork for about (stopping to think) 3 years now. Taking a class is a great idea, and the CJ book is wonderful. Let me know if you have any particular questions that I might be able to help with. Jerri www.beadbimbo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Bead Making > As a natural extension to stained glass I have been making beads for the > past 3 weeks. Later this fall I hope to take a class and in the meantime > I am using Cindy Jenkins' book to learn how it is done. Having said all > of that, is there anyone else on bungi that is doing lampwork? > Peggy > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 30 10:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: gdi.net!shodge From: Southern Exposure To: "Peggy W. Johnsen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Bead Making Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:15:51 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@gdi.net> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org>> Organization: Southern Exposure Precedence: bulk Hey Peggy, Are you kidding? Beads are a BLAST. Every time you take a class you will learn something new. Great choice in books. Skip Southern Exposure Stained Glass Supply, Inc. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 30 13:33:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:24:06 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: erols.com!deethom From: Dee To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Bead Making Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:17:09 -0700 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010630141505.00d25100@pop.erols.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org>> Precedence: bulk >oh yes! they are my play time. I find it a wonderful relaxing way to take >a break. Dee > > As a natural extension to stained glass I have been making beads for the > > past 3 weeks. Later this fall I hope to take a class and in the meantime > > I am using Cindy Jenkins' book to learn how it is done. Having said all > > of that, is there anyone else on bungi that is doing lampwork? > > Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 30 14:26:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: home.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: "Peggy W. Johnsen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Bead Making Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:08:19 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@home.com> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@slonet.org>> Organization: glassdancer Precedence: bulk Since you've been doing it for 3 weeks...You're already hooked, I'd bet. I started in December after wanting to for several years. I love it. I finally got an oxy propane torch a few months ago, and Im really lovin it. Since I still dont have a kiln, a friend (I wont name names) has been annealing them for me. Ive been cooling in a ceramic fiber blanket, then my friend batch anneals them for me. Im hoping to order *my* **first** kiln this week! :o) :o) It's just almost too much fun. One can never have too much glass, or equipment. Suzanne "Peggy W. Johnsen" wrote: > > As a natural extension to stained glass I have been making beads for the > past 3 weeks. Later this fall I hope to take a class and in the meantime > I am using Cindy Jenkins' book to learn how it is done. Having said all > of that, is there anyone else on bungi that is doing lampwork? > Peggy > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Jun 30 20:07:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 20:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #532 built 2001-Jun-4) X-Path: yahoo.com!texpenguin From: Sherry Greer To: GlassList Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: grinding Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0@yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk Thanks again to all on suggestions. I gathered and rolled all the loose change from the top of the dryer, bedroom floor, penny jars, coin bank, etc, and ended up with $69, so off we went to the glass store to purchase an entry level model. Who knew we had that much 'found money' lying around the house! Guess my friend might get her suncatcher after all! Sherry ===== Sherry Greer texpenguin@yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass