From owner-glass Wed Nov 1 04:31:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 04:10:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: go.com!officerjqg From: James Garner To: Glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Kitties with wings (really) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:44:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk I have a woman who really wants a cat casting with either butterfly or dragon wings. Mine is not to ask why but to provide. I have looked in delpi and warner and to my suprise the only castings I have found are things that normally have wings. So I ask ... anyone know where I can get a cat casting at. James James Garner ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 1 06:02:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:45:28 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!NEICYDENN From: NEICYDENN@aol.com To: Glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Kitties with wings (really) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:40:22 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 11/1/2000 6:32:08 AM Central Standard Time, officerjqg@go.com writes: << I have a woman who really wants a cat casting with either butterfly or dragon wings. Mine is not to ask why but to provide. I have looked in delpi and warner and to my suprise the only castings I have found are things that normally have wings. So I ask ... anyone know where I can get a cat casting at. James >> Warner has a heart topper that's a cat, you could make little wings to solder to its back. I couldn't find it in the book, but here is the order # 8303-102. They have a pic on their on-line catalog. Denise ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 1 21:02:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:54:29 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: RE: saw cuts breaking Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:26:46 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C04428.E93948C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit basically, the rule is simple, if you can't cut it by hand, then it will later break there if you use a saw. (or if you groze out a complex curve). so far almost every piece, in a panel, that i used a saw in, it later cracked there. i mostly use my saw for really thick glass, or a to maximize the glass i'm using. the only time you can "legally" get away with a bandsaw cut is when you fuse, do a mosaic, and maybe, a stepping stone (though if it's stepped on, it might break). ---Mike Savad Mike's Stained Glass - Tips Tricks Photos http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141 4-6-2000 New Pages Added: 1 new tip page: Help buying stained glass, updated info on the about me page, and 3 window set's for skycity. Including lot's of new links, and more FREE PATTERN links. -----Original Message----- From: PookyPook@aol.com [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:55 PM To: Charlie_Spitzer@stratus.com; glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: saw cuts breaking In a message dated 10/31/00 7:07:40 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Charlie_Spitzer@stratus.com writes: that saw cuts allow you to make pieces that inherently weak. cuts like a 90 degree angle cut, or very deep inside cuts, or very thin pieces with cuts near the edge are weak and any stress at all will cause them to break, usually somewhere in the middle of your already completed piece. these types of cuts are very hard to do by hand cutting. Unfortunately, I learned that little lesson the hard way! I must apologyze if I have stirred up a past topic, but no one versed me in the do's and don'ts of saw-cuttings so this is new, vital info for me. I really do appreciate the answers so far. All makes perfect sense... Thanks, again! Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C04428.E93948C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
basically, the rule is simple, if you can't cut it by hand, = then it will=20 later break there if you use a saw. (or if you groze out a complex = curve). so=20 far almost every piece, in a panel, that i used a saw in, it later = cracked=20 there. i mostly use my saw for really thick glass, or a to maximize the = glass=20 i'm using.
 
the=20 only time you can "legally" get away with a bandsaw cut is when you = fuse,=20 do a mosaic, and maybe, a stepping stone (though if it's stepped = on, it=20 might break).
 
 
---Mike Savad
 
 

Mike's Stained Glass - Tips Tricks Photos
http://www.geocities.com/Par= is/1141
4-6-2000=20 New Pages Added: 1 new tip page: Help buying stained glass, updated info = on the=20 about me page, and 3 window set's for skycity. Including lot's of new = links, and=20 more FREE PATTERN links.

-----Original Message-----
From: PookyPook@aol.com=20 [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 = 8:55=20 PM
To: Charlie_Spitzer@stratus.com;=20 glass@bungi.com
Subject: Re: saw cuts=20 breaking

In a message dated = 10/31/00 7:07:40=20 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
Charlie_Spitzer@stratus.com writes:=20


that saw cuts allow you to make pieces that inherently = weak.=20 cuts like
a 90 degree angle cut, or very deep inside cuts, or = very thin=20 pieces with
cuts near the edge are weak and any stress at all = will cause=20 them to break,
usually somewhere in the middle of your already = completed=20 piece. these types
of cuts are very hard to do by hand cutting.=20



Unfortunately, I learned that little lesson = the hard=20 way! I must apologyze if
I have stirred up a past topic, but no = one versed=20 me in the do's and don'ts
of saw-cuttings so this is new, vital = info for=20 me. I really do appreciate the
answers so far. All makes perfect = sense...=20 Thanks, again!

Ruth
pookypook@AOL.com=20
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter =
http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222=20
ICQ11716411
"Ever stop to think and forget to start=20 again?"=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C04428.E93948C0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 2 13:33:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:15:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: thezone.net!robertcrane From: "Robert Crane" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: glass tubing Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:44:43 -0330 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C044F4.9555A1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for a source of white glass tubing with an outside diameter = of 25mm and an inside diameter of 21mm. I would appreciate any help. = Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C044F4.9555A1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Click here to view your post card ----=BE37FEC5A98141A6A96A_46A5_E903_224E-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 6 17:34:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:11:39 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Wierd request Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:09:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk I just had a phone call from a guy who wants a glass trumpet repaired!!! This thing is about 3/4s the size of a real trumpet, and some time ago someone tried to blow it and broke off one of the keys - a fairly clean break. I have no epoxies or other glues. Any one have any ideas for fixing it? The object is in Columbia MD. - Cec -- ********************************************************************* * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) ********************************************************************* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 6 19:05:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:50:36 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: Wierd request Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk there's that hextal, extal something like that. i heard that stuff works really well, though it takes days to dry. ---Mike Savad Mike's Stained Glass - Tips Tricks Photos http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141 4-6-2000 New Pages Added: 1 new tip page: Help buying stained glass, updated info on the about me page, and 3 window set's for skycity. Including lot's of new links, and more FREE PATTERN links. > -----Original Message----- > From: Cecily & Ralph Wood [mailto:cecnralph@home.com] > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:10 PM > To: Bungi Glass > Subject: Wierd request > > > I just had a phone call from a guy who wants a glass trumpet repaired!!! > > This thing is about 3/4s the size of a real trumpet, and some time ago > someone tried to blow it and broke off one of the keys - a fairly clean > break. > > I have no epoxies or other glues. Any one have any ideas for fixing > it? The object is in Columbia MD. - Cec > > -- > ********************************************************************* > * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood > * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) > ********************************************************************* > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 6 20:52:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:39:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: netzero.net!atexasrose From: "atexasrose" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C04845.19533280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please remove me from this list. Thank you, Janice in Georgia ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C04845.19533280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Wood" To: Bungi , Ann Baxter-CGG Editor , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: IGGA Press Release:ACCI Show 2001 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:58:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk The following press release is provided as a service to the IGGA online members, and does not imply endorsement. Christie A. Wood - IGGA Exec. Director North Wales, PA USA ----------------------- ACCI Gears Up for Milestone 25th Annual Show Exhibitors are encouraged to think about July in December. Booth reservations for the 25th annual ACCI Show 2001, sponsored by the Association of Crafts & Creative Industries (ACCI), will begin to be assigned Dec. 1st, 2000. The craft industry's vital mid-year show will return to its traditional four day run on July 20, 21, 22 & 23, 2001 at the newly-named Donald E. Stephens Convention Center and exhibitors are being urged to sign up early to guarantee prime location for what is anticipated to be the best ACCI show ever. 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Director of ACCI at 1-888-360-2224 ext 3131 or vis= it www.accicrafts.org. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 7 15:34:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:04:49 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Mike's Stained Glass Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:00:53 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk my page is finally updated. A ton of new links added. i have my own search engine now, it works pretty well. a few new projects added. a new thing in tips - about soldering a nice bead. and a few other things. so come and see, and if you've been there before, stop by again, it's a treat for the eyes. ---Mike Savad --- Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/ Contains a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass instruction, and many, many stained glass links. --- 11-7-00 - New Stuff Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now search my site with a built in engine. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 7 17:31:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:03:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ilnk.com!andor From: "Linda Jo Letscher" To: Subject: Re: Mike's Stained Glass Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Mike, Good to see you and thanks. Your page is always a good link to send to a beginner for lots of things to see and palces to go to get their questions answered. Linda Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Savad" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Mike's Stained Glass > my page is finally updated. A ton of new links added. i have my own search > engine now, it works pretty well. a few new projects added. a new thing in > tips - about soldering a nice bead. and a few other things. > > so come and see, and if you've been there before, stop by again, it's a > treat for the eyes. > > > ---Mike Savad > > > --- > Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/ > Contains a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained > glass instruction, and many, many stained glass links. > --- > 11-7-00 - New Stuff Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new > projects. You can now search my site with a built in engine. > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 7 19:02:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:33:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ns.sympatico.ca!heinze.g From: heinze.g@ns.sympatico.ca (Gail HeinzeMiline) To: "Becker, Donna" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Wrought Iron Work Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:55:16 -0400 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Organization: Glass with Class Precedence: bulk Where are you? My neighbour does iron work, but we are in Nova Scotia. Check your local craft council. They should have wrought iron workers listed for your area. Gail Becker, Donna wrote: > Does anyone know of someone that does wrought iron work to a specific > specification. > Basically, I'm looking for someone to shorten a length of wrought iron that > has a hook > shape on each end. Or someone to make an 'S' Hook with the middle part, > between > the two hooks about an inch long. > > Does anyone know of someone who does work like this, or of a place that > would sell > a part like this? > > Thanks > > Donna Becker > donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 8 04:54:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:33:46 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: netzero.net!kseeglass From: "KSee" To: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: Weird request Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 05:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Hi Cecily, I have used two of these glues one in a Sidney Hutter workshop and another in attaching jewelry findings to glass. In the workshop we used a UV light but for the jewelry we don't. I'll see if I can find out which product's I've used. http://www.dymax.com/products/uv_structural/glass_bonding.htm KSee See Glass www.kseeglass.com National Capital Art Glass Guild www.ncagg.org -----Original Message----- From: Cecily & Ralph Wood [mailto:cecnralph@home.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:10 PM To: Bungi Glass Subject: Wierd request I just had a phone call from a guy who wants a glass trumpet repaired!!! This thing is about 3/4s the size of a real trumpet, and some time ago someone tried to blow it and broke off one of the keys - a fairly clean break. I have no epoxies or other glues. Any one have any ideas for fixing it? The object is in Columbia MD. - Cec -- ********************************************************************* * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) ********************************************************************* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 8 07:28:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:07:28 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: "INTERNET:deb@presys.com" , Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: IGGA inquiry:John P. Boone windows question Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:36:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by INTERNET:deb@presys.com >I have access to a number of window-sized stained glass pieces by John P. Boone of Claremont, CA. Do you know anyone who might be able to help me put a value on these? Debby Todd< I will post this message to our online members to see if any of them can help you out. Bungians - If anyone can help out here, please reply to Debby Todd at deb@presys.com Thanks. Christie A. Wood - IGGA Exec. Director North Wales, PA USA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 8 13:33:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:24:01 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: bardstown.com!glassx From: "glass expressions" To: "STAINED GLASS ARTS" , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: basketball pattern needed Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:32:14 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C049A1.73690A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i am to make a stepping stone for a lady basketball player the only = pattern i have is a basketball by itsself does anyone have another idea = or pattern to share- i would reatly apprecaite it- thanks ricky ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C049A1.73690A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
  i am to make a = stepping=20 stone for a lady basketball player the only pattern i have is a = basketball by=20 itsself does anyone have another idea or pattern to share- i would = reatly=20 apprecaite it- thanks ricky
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C049A1.73690A80-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 08:44:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:08:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8.ca12f3c.273c255e_boundary" Subject: Cutter's Mate Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:05:50 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_c8.ca12f3c.273c255e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that at least one of you have this cutter, and loves it. Does anyone else? I am trying to decide if I want to get it or not. It isn't cheap. Is it really worth the extra $$? Not being able to see it first is a big hinderance to me. But, wouldn't be the first time I bought something, sight unseen. I would love some input as to pros and cons over this.... Thanks in advance.... Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_c8.ca12f3c.273c255e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that at least one of you have this cutter, and loves it. Does anyone
else? I am trying to decide if I want to get it or not. It isn't cheap. Is it
really worth the extra $$? Not being able to see it first is a big hinderance
to me. But, wouldn't be the first time I bought something, sight unseen.  I
would love some input as to pros and cons over this.... Thanks in advance....

Ruth
pookypook@AOL.com
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http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222
ICQ11716411
"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_c8.ca12f3c.273c255e_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 09:54:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:47:49 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie_Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: Cutter's Mate Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:36:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk i have one. i bought it because i have neck and elbow problems. i love it. it makes cutting so much easier if you have medical conditions that cause pain when you cut. it has also let me cut better and harder pieces that weren't possible without a lot of grozing when using a hand cutter. the cons is that it is expensive, and it also limits you to cutting smaller pieces. the piece of glass has to fit on your cutting board that the cutters mate is attached to. i have some larger pieces of glass (2x2') that don't fit my board, and thus i have to go back to a hand cutter for these. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: PookyPook@aol.com [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:06 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Cutter's Mate I know that at least one of you have this cutter, and loves it. Does anyone else? I am trying to decide if I want to get it or not. It isn't cheap. Is it really worth the extra $$? Not being able to see it first is a big hinderance to me. But, wouldn't be the first time I bought something, sight unseen. I would love some input as to pros and cons over this.... Thanks in advance.... Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 11:27:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:14:42 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: heesun.com!keane From: "Robert & Jeanne Keane -- Hee Sun Stained Glass, Ltd." To: "Spitzer, Charlie" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:38:21 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk The cutter's mate should come with a set of feet that plug into the Morton surfaces and once those are removed there should be small rubber feet that will grip a workbench surface. We use one in our shop and most all of the students / customers who try it love it. There are several models to chose from with the Commercial having the longest reach ( a 30" arm). The standard cutters mate has a 16" arm and the cutters mate plus has a 21" arm. Hope this helps, and if it is at all possible try one out. Robert Hee Sun Stained Glass, Ltd. 324 Main Street Reisterstown , MD 21136 410-833-3007 info@heesun.com sales@heesun.com http://www.heesun.com Custom Design Studio Supplies & Classes for Stained & Fused Glass & Mosaics ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Cutter's Mate > i have one. i bought it because i have neck and elbow problems. > > i love it. it makes cutting so much easier if you have medical conditions > that cause pain when you cut. it has also let me cut better and harder > pieces that weren't possible without a lot of grozing when using a hand > cutter. > > the cons is that it is expensive, and it also limits you to cutting smaller > pieces. the piece of glass has to fit on your cutting board that the cutters > mate is attached to. i have some larger pieces of glass (2x2') that don't > fit my board, and thus i have to go back to a hand cutter for these. > > regards, > charlie > phx, az > > -----Original Message----- > From: PookyPook@aol.com [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:06 AM > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: Cutter's Mate > > > I know that at least one of you have this cutter, and loves it. Does anyone > else? I am trying to decide if I want to get it or not. It isn't cheap. Is > it > really worth the extra $$? Not being able to see it first is a big > hinderance > to me. But, wouldn't be the first time I bought something, sight unseen. I > would love some input as to pros and cons over this.... Thanks in > advance.... > > Ruth > pookypook@AOL.com > http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter > http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 > ICQ11716411 > "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 12:29:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:17:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: hotmail.com!conniescreations From: "Connie's Creations" To: PookyPook@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:57:40 PST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Ruth, I have had one for a year now and absolutely love it. I bought the Cutter's Mate Plus and would not go any smaller but maybe next size bigger. I was using a pistol grip cutter and this is so much better because it applies the exact pressure needed without effort or thought except on some very irregular glass. The problems to watch for when working with it are that it is very precarious when you go to move it. Just be bareful not to drop it. Connie >From: PookyPook@aol.com >To: glass@bungi.com >Subject: Cutter's Mate >Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:05:50 EST > >I know that at least one of you have this cutter, and loves it. Does anyone >else? I am trying to decide if I want to get it or not. It isn't cheap. Is >it >really worth the extra $$? Not being able to see it first is a big >hinderance >to me. But, wouldn't be the first time I bought something, sight unseen. I >would love some input as to pros and cons over this.... Thanks in >advance.... > >Ruth >pookypook@AOL.com >http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter >http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 >ICQ11716411 >"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 12:31:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:26:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: "INTERNET:Awbaxter@aol.com" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: IGGA Press Release:ACCI Show 2001 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:23:07 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by INTERNET:Awbaxter@aol.com >Does the ACCI have an address, or at least a city/state to include in th= is press release? I don't see a reference to location, other than the = Convention Center. < Sorry folk....it wasn't in the body of the press release so I forgot to a= dd it in. Here's the ACCI contact info: Association of Crafts and Creative Industries 1100-H Brandywine Blvd P.O. Box 3388 Zanesville, OH 43702-3388 USA Alicia Sheerin (610) 521-5405 www.accicrafts.org Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 14:32:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:27:55 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: island.net!seaspray From: "synergy glass" To: "Glass Friends" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:23:19 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C04A37.147BFAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glenna, Please unsubscribe me until further notice. 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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C04A37.147BFAA0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 17:06:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:45:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: pro-ns.net!jdahlin From: "J. Dahlin" To: PookyPook@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 18:18:48 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk I bought the Cutters Mate Plus at Glass Visions this year. I do like it. I had a problem with it skipping and then realized that I had to reposition the bar and now use it so that the bar goes across the top of the board from right to left in front of me vs. either side. That works best for me, but might be different for someone else. I am still using my other cutters, either the Thomas or the new Custom Grip for small pieces. I had surgery earlier this year and found that before getting the Cutters Mate I was holding my hand at a slight angle and getting some scores that did not break well. I am having better luck with the Cutters Mate. I do need to get the foot adapters for my Morton cutting board, as they weren't included with mine. Just need to make the call. Joanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 9 19:31:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:28:29 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: banet.net!gmanning From: Goldpaws To: PookyPook@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk I have the cutter's mate and would not trade it for anything. I only have positive comments. I am sure it has saved me its price in glass. Also I have a problem with my wrist I can use my cutter's mate for hours and have NO wrist pain. Go for it! Get the biggest one. PookyPook@aol.com wrote: > > I know that at least one of you have this cutter, and loves it. Does > anyone > else? I am trying to decide if I want to get it or not. It isn't > cheap. Is it > really worth the extra $$? Not being able to see it first is a big > hinderance > to me. But, wouldn't be the first time I bought something, sight > unseen. I > would love some input as to pros and cons over this.... Thanks in > advance.... > > Ruth > pookypook@AOL.com > http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter > http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 > ICQ11716411 > "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 10 11:32:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: waterw.com!artglass From: "pjfriend" To: Subject: Supplier Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me if they know of a glass supplier in the Bristol Pa area. Thanks.....pj Paul Friend Architectural Glass & Design, Inc. www.waterw.com/~artglass Accredited Studio Member of the Stained Glass Association of America Member International Guild of Glass Artists Associate Member AIA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 10 12:01:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:48:37 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi , Ann Baxter-CGG Editor , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: IGGA Press Release: Offinger's Handcrafted Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:46:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk The following news release is provided to our members as a service from t= he International Guild of Glass Artists. It is not necessarily an endorsement. Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA ----------------------------------- Offinger's Handcrafted Marketplaces 2001 dates and locations: Columbus, OH Jan 20-21, 2001 Vetarans Memorial Building March 17-18, 2001 Ohio Expo Center (Celeste Center) Aug 18-19, 2001 Veterans Memorial Building Kansas City, MO June 2-3, 2001 American Royal Center (Hale Arena) Atlanta, GA July 14-15, 2001 Gwinnett Civic & Cultural Center These shows are for the trade only. Two forms of business ID required. Contact: Denise Brosie Offinger Mamagement Co P.O. Box 3388, Zanesville, OH 43702-3388 phone 1-888-878-4438 or 740-452-4541, ext. 3124 fax: 740-452-2552 email: gift@offinger.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 10 14:15:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:03:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ae.d07da41.273dca3b_boundary" Subject: Thanks! Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:01:31 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_ae.d07da41.273dca3b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiries about Cutter's Mate. It was all positive, except for one comment which I cannot remember at this time. However, that same person did say positive things about it, also. I guess I will "bite the bullet" and invest in one. I use the large Morton cutting surface and have to figure out which size of the three that would fit. I think I will probably opt for the smallest since I don't cut huge pieces. I have checked around and found the cheapest one. So, on Monday, I will probably place an order. Thanks, again, for such wonderful responses! Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_ae.d07da41.273dca3b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiries about Cutter's Mate. It was
all positive, except for one comment which I cannot remember at this time.
However, that same person did say positive things about it, also. I guess I
will "bite the bullet" and invest in one. I use the large Morton cutting
surface and have to figure out which size of the three that would fit. I
think I will probably opt for the smallest since I don't cut huge pieces.  I
have checked around and found the cheapest one. So, on Monday, I will
probably place an order. Thanks, again, for such wonderful responses!

Ruth
pookypook@AOL.com
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter
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"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_ae.d07da41.273dca3b_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 10 15:16:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:00:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: twcny.rr.com!mschatee From: "CP" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Supplier Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:52:48 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Rainbow Glass is in Bristol, PA right on Rt.13 It's right off the turnpike exit. Here is their web address, check it out and call for directions. I go there whenever I go to PA (I live in Upstate NY). They are very helpful and have a nice selection of glass and supplies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pjfriend" To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: Supplier > Can anyone tell me if they know of a glass supplier in the Bristol Pa area. > > Thanks.....pj > > > Paul Friend Architectural Glass & Design, Inc. > www.waterw.com/~artglass > Accredited Studio Member of the Stained Glass Association of America > Member International Guild of Glass Artists > Associate Member AIA > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 10 20:56:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:51:06 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: teleport.com!weaver51 From: "Howard" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: jewels and roses (jpegs) on ebay Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:46:15 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Organization: weaver51@teleport.com Precedence: bulk finally............ I have listed old Bullseye jewels and roses on ebay. You can see them at: id numbers....... 495378244 for jewels 495391324 for roses If you are interested, email direct for availability weaver51@teleport.com Elaine and Howard best lamps on the "net": http://www.teleport.com/~cbs/howard ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 11 06:21:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 06:14:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: netaxs.com!maruca From: maruca@netaxs.com To: Howard Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: correction!Re: jewels and roses (jpegs) on ebay Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:10:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk the roses are 495391342, the number below has the last two digits reversed On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Howard wrote: > finally............ > > I have listed old Bullseye jewels and roses on ebay. > > You can see them at: id numbers....... > > 495378244 for jewels > 495391324 for roses > > If you are interested, email direct for availability > > > > weaver51@teleport.com > Elaine and Howard > best lamps on the "net": > http://www.teleport.com/~cbs/howard > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 11 09:00:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ad.2c4b7f6.273ecdc6_boundary" Subject: Cutter's Mate.. again Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:28:54 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_ad.2c4b7f6.273ecdc6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a quickie to let those of you who are interested in the Cutter's Mate.... I just ordered mine.. Yay!!! ... and discovered that Delphi Glass has theirs on sale... if you are interested, email me and I will give you the prices. Don't know if we are allowed to post that on this list or not. So, to be sure, please email me privately. Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_ad.2c4b7f6.273ecdc6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a quickie to let those of you who are interested in the Cutter's
Mate.... I just ordered mine.. Yay!!! ... and discovered that Delphi Glass
has theirs on sale... if you are interested, email me and I will give you the
prices. Don't know if we are allowed to post that on this list or not. So, to
be sure, please email me privately.

Ruth
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"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_ad.2c4b7f6.273ecdc6_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 11 09:31:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:00:22 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: teleport.com!weaver51 From: "Howard" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: correction!Re: jewels and roses (jpegs) on ebay Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:57:53 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <> Organization: weaver51@teleport.com Precedence: bulk O MY DOG....... thanks for correcting the reversing of my digits. Been a while since I posted to bungi....lurking, however! enjoy, H weaver51@teleport.com Elaine and Howard best lamps on the "net": http://www.teleport.com/~cbs/howard ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 11 13:34:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:18:51 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ilnk.com!andor From: "Linda Jo Letscher" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate.. again Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:13:37 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C04BFA.591DB440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth, I am sure everyone on this list knows how to get in touch with Delphi. We are all probably on everyone that sells glass and supplies lists. But thanks, I may have to switch to one, had an accident and hurt both hands so not doing any glass until they get fixed, but i may not be able to cut glass as before. But I will figure it out. Give us a full report on how you like it after you have worked with it for a while. Linda Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 11:28 AM Subject: Cutter's Mate.. again Just a quickie to let those of you who are interested in the Cutter's Mate.... I just ordered mine.. Yay!!! ... and discovered that Delphi Glass has theirs on sale... if you are interested, email me and I will give you the prices. Don't know if we are allowed to post that on this list or not. So, to be sure, please email me privately. Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C04BFA.591DB440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ruth,
I am sure everyone on this list knows how to = get in=20 touch with Delphi.  We are all probably on everyone that sells = glass and=20 supplies lists.  But thanks, I may have to switch to one, had an = accident=20 and hurt both hands so not doing any glass until they get fixed, but i = may not=20 be able to cut glass as before.  But I will figure it out.  = Give us a=20 full report on how you like it after you have worked with it for a=20 while.
Linda Jo
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PookyPook@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, = 2000 11:28=20 AM
Subject: Cutter's Mate.. = again

Just a quickie to let those of you who = are=20 interested in the Cutter's
Mate.... I just ordered mine.. Yay!!! = ... and=20 discovered that Delphi Glass
has theirs on sale... if you are = interested,=20 email me and I will give you the
prices. Don't know if we are = allowed to=20 post that on this list or not. So, to
be sure, please email me = privately.=20

Ruth
pookypook@AOL.com=20
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ICQ11716411
"Ever stop to think and forget to start=20 again?"=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C04BFA.591DB440-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 11 15:33:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:24:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ilnk.com!andor From: "Linda Jo Letscher" To: "Bungi" Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate.. again Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:07:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<3A0DBE2D.42CE71D7@ix.netcom.com>> Precedence: bulk Yep they sure will. Positively!! LJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Gunn" To: "Linda Jo Letscher" Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Cutter's Mate.. again > LJ > > Warner Criv will beat the price by 10% wont they? > > Linda Jo Letscher wrote: ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 11 15:41:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:32:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: hotmail.com!littlbit33 From: "kim higdon" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:29:55 CST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 09:33:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:25:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: hotmail.com!conniescreations From: "Connie's Creations" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Glass Patterns Quarterly Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 05:42:55 PST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Does anybody know of which back issue of Glass Patterns Quarterly had the floral pattern done with alot of Spectrum Baroque glass??? Also as I am going to be ordering at least one back issue I was wondering if anyone off the top of their head remembers some other back issues that stood out as exceptional. The price and shipping is reduced for more quantities. I realize "exceptional" is a subjective term but if the response is consistent then it would probably be a good design. Subject matter doesn't matter to me. I do alot of variety. I have never ordered this magazine before. Would any of you care to comment about its usefulness-good or bad???? I am considering subscribing. Thanks. Connie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 12:33:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 12:22:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: kwic.com!mnnve3 From: Garry & Linda McKenna To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: Glass Patterns Quarterly Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:07:56 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Connie - that pattern is available on Spectrum's website under free patterns. Linda M.(a long-time lurker) LINDA McKENNA -----Original Message----- From: Connie's Creations [SMTP:conniescreations@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 8:43 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Glass Patterns Quarterly Does anybody know of which back issue of Glass Patterns Quarterly had the floral pattern done with alot of Spectrum Baroque glass??? Also as I am going to be ordering at least one back issue I was wondering if anyone off the top of their head remembers some other back issues that stood out as exceptional. The price and shipping is reduced for more quantities. I realize "exceptional" is a subjective term but if the response is consistent then it would probably be a good design. Subject matter doesn't matter to me. I do alot of variety. I have never ordered this magazine before. Would any of you care to comment about its usefulness-good or bad???? I am considering subscribing. Thanks. Connie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 17:32:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:02:19 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_75.c064b52.274091cf_boundary" Subject: straight cuts problems Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:37:35 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_75.c064b52.274091cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know what my problem is, but I can't seem to make good breaks. No matter what I try the glass breaks where ever IT wants to which is usually right through the middle of the glass so I can't use it! Argh!! I use a lot of KOG glass which can be a bear to cut, anyway. I am just trying to make a simple little sled... and got half-way through a piece before giving up. I am getting my Taurus 2.2 back in about a week, so I think I will wait until then. But, in the meantime.. any terrific hints or suggestions? I follow a ruler and use the cutter at a 90% angle. Or straight up. Or down, whichever you prefer to say. Then I have tried to use the breaking pliers .. no luck .. and I even have the breaker that has the round hole in it.. can't think of what it is called. Sigh.. help? I really, really hate to admit this, folks! Fortunately, most of my stuff really doesn't rely on straight cuts.... SIGH... Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_75.c064b52.274091cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know what my problem is, but I can't seem to make good breaks. No
matter what I try the glass breaks where ever IT wants to which is usually
right through the middle of the glass so I can't  use it! Argh!!  I use a lot
of KOG glass which can be a bear to cut, anyway. I am just trying to make a
simple little sled... and got half-way through a piece before giving up. I am
getting my Taurus 2.2 back in about a week, so I think I will wait until
then. But, in the meantime.. any terrific hints or suggestions?  I follow a
ruler and use the cutter at a 90% angle. Or straight up. Or down, whichever
you prefer to say. Then I have tried to use the breaking pliers .. no luck ..
and I even have the breaker that has the round hole in it.. can't think of
what it is called. Sigh.. help? I really, really hate to admit this, folks!
Fortunately, most of my stuff really doesn't rely on straight cuts.... SIGH..! From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 18:51:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 18:36:38 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!Moya-Don From: "D. ONeal" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: RE:Glass Patterns Quarterly Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:44:52 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C04CE9.686DEF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Connie, I like the magazine for the new patterns it has, and the directions they = print with them. I would prefer to see more articles on technical = issues. I think that working in glass is a never-ending quest for more = information on this art. This Bungi group is amazing in that there is soooooo much experience = amongst members. These members are more than happy to share with us tips = and techniques they have learned over the years. We learn from = chemists, metallurgists, machinists, managers and janitors. They all = have something to contribute and it makes us better glass artists. Just my opinion. Moya ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C04CE9.686DEF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Connie,
I like the magazine for the new patterns it has, and the directions = they=20 print with them.  I would prefer to see more articles on technical=20 issues.  I think that working in glass is a never-ending quest for = more=20 information on this art.
This Bungi group is amazing in that there is soooooo much = experience=20 amongst members. These members are more than happy to share with us tips = and=20 techniques they have learned over the years.  We learn from = chemists,=20 metallurgists, machinists, managers and janitors.  They all have = something=20 to contribute and it makes us better glass artists.
Just my opinion.
Moya
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C04CE9.686DEF60-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 19:21:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:13:41 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: RE: straight cuts problems Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:10:32 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C04CF5.5F9B84E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit make sure the cutter is clean and the wheel moves freely. move it on your thumb until it has no crunch to it. i push up on the cutter for better pressure and control. i hold it like a knife. for kokomo, cut it as you would normally and trust your score. it makes no sound, just break as you would normally. if you put too much pressure it may break in the wrong place. a normal score puts a micro fracture in one direction. too much pressure will put multiple fractures in it. the glass may be dirty. or even too cold. or the glass may just be bad, harder in one spot, or an occlusion in another. the ring star is better for softer glass, kokomo is on the hardside. ---Mike Savad --- Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/ Contains a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass instruction, and many, many stained glass links. --- 11-7-00 - New Stuff Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now search my site with a built in engine. -----Original Message----- From: PookyPook@aol.com [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 7:38 PM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: straight cuts problems I don't know what my problem is, but I can't seem to make good breaks. No matter what I try the glass breaks where ever IT wants to which is usually right through the middle of the glass so I can't use it! Argh!! I use a lot of KOG glass which can be a bear to cut, anyway. I am just trying to make a simple little sled... and got half-way through a piece before giving up. I am getting my Taurus 2.2 back in about a week, so I think I will wait until then. But, in the meantime.. any terrific hints or suggestions? I follow a ruler and use the cutter at a 90% angle. Or straight up. Or down, whichever you prefer to say. Then I have tried to use the breaking pliers .. no luck .. and I even have the breaker that has the round hole in it.. can't think of what it is called. Sigh.. help? I really, really hate to admit this, folks! Fortunately, most of my stuff really doesn't rely on straight cuts.... SIGH..! ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C04CF5.5F9B84E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
make=20 sure the cutter is clean and the wheel moves freely. move it on your = thumb until=20 it has no crunch to it.
 
i push=20 up on the cutter for better pressure and control. i hold it like a=20 knife.
 
for=20 kokomo, cut it as you would normally and trust your score. it makes no = sound,=20 just break as you would normally. if you put too much pressure it may = break in=20 the wrong place. a normal score puts a micro fracture in one = direction. too=20 much pressure will put multiple fractures in = it.
 
the=20 glass may be dirty. or even too cold. or the glass may just be bad, = harder in=20 one spot, or an occlusion in another.
 
the=20 ring star is better for softer glass,  kokomo is on the=20 hardside.
 
 
---Mike Savad
 
 

---
Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Pa= ris/1141/
Contains=20 a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass = instruction, and many, many stained glass links.
---
11-7-00 - New = Stuff=20 Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now = search=20 my site with a built in engine.

-----Original Message-----
From: PookyPook@aol.com=20 [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 = 7:38=20 PM
To: glass@bungi.com
Subject: straight cuts=20 problems

I don't know what my = problem is, but=20 I can't seem to make good breaks. No
matter what I try the glass = breaks=20 where ever IT wants to which is usually
right through the middle = of the=20 glass so I can't  use it! Argh!!  I use a lot
of KOG = glass which=20 can be a bear to cut, anyway. I am just trying to make a
simple = little=20 sled... and got half-way through a piece before giving up. I am =
getting my=20 Taurus 2.2 back in about a week, so I think I will wait until =
then. But,=20 in the meantime.. any terrific hints or suggestions?  I follow a=20
ruler and use the cutter at a 90% angle. Or straight up. Or down,=20 whichever
you prefer to say. Then I have tried to use the breaking = pliers=20 .. no luck ..
and I even have the breaker that has the round hole = in it..=20 can't think of
what it is called. Sigh.. help? I really, really = hate to=20 admit this, folks!
Fortunately, most of my stuff really doesn't = rely on=20 straight cuts.... SIGH..! ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C04CF5.5F9B84E0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 20:23:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:01:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Garry & Linda McKenna , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Re: Glass Patterns Quarterly Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk GPQ is a very good publication, even if you don't want their patterns. It is aimed at hobbiests, but also has how-tos many of us who are more experienced can relate to. Their reviews are useful, and I think you see more new products here than in other publications. Some of the patterns are so-so, but others are very nice. What I most like, though, is the step by step instructions in all kinds of glass handling. - Cec Garry & Linda McKenna wrote: > Connie - that pattern is available on Spectrum's website under free patterns. > Linda M.(a long-time lurker) > > LINDA McKENNA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie's Creations [SMTP:conniescreations@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 8:43 AM > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: Glass Patterns Quarterly > > Does anybody know of which back issue of Glass Patterns Quarterly > had the floral pattern done with alot of Spectrum Baroque glass??? > > Also as I am going to be ordering at least one back issue I was > wondering if anyone off the top of their head remembers some other > back issues that stood out as exceptional. The price and shipping is > reduced for more quantities. > > I realize "exceptional" is a subjective term but if the response > is consistent then it would probably be a good design. Subject > matter doesn't matter to me. I do alot of variety. > > I have never ordered this magazine before. Would any of you care to > comment about its usefulness-good or bad???? I am considering > subscribing. Thanks. Connie > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- ********************************************************************* * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) ********************************************************************* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 22:04:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:01:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Garry & Linda McKenna , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Re: Glass Patterns Quarterly Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk GPQ is a very good publication, even if you don't want their patterns. It is aimed at hobbiests, but also has how-tos many of us who are more experienced can relate to. Their reviews are useful, and I think you see more new products here than in other publications. Some of the patterns are so-so, but others are very nice. What I most like, though, is the step by step instructions in all kinds of glass handling. - Cec Garry & Linda McKenna wrote: > Connie - that pattern is available on Spectrum's website under free patterns. > Linda M.(a long-time lurker) > > LINDA McKENNA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie's Creations [SMTP:conniescreations@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 8:43 AM > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: Glass Patterns Quarterly > > Does anybody know of which back issue of Glass Patterns Quarterly > had the floral pattern done with alot of Spectrum Baroque glass??? > > Also as I am going to be ordering at least one back issue I was > wondering if anyone off the top of their head remembers some other > back issues that stood out as exceptional. The price and shipping is > reduced for more quantities. > > I realize "exceptional" is a subjective term but if the response > is consistent then it would probably be a good design. Subject > matter doesn't matter to me. I do alot of variety. > > I have never ordered this magazine before. Would any of you care to > comment about its usefulness-good or bad???? I am considering > subscribing. Thanks. Connie > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- ********************************************************************* * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) ********************************************************************* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 12 22:05:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:29:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: uniserve.com!sparent From: Shirley To: Glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Glass Racks Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:30:16 -0800 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk I am in the process of building a glass rack out of 3/4" plywood. It will have slots 26", 18" and 12" high. I was wondering what you thought would be a good width for the slots and also if you would recommend lining the bottoms with something to facilitate the glass sliding in and out? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Shirley ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 00:34:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 00:05:15 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: surfside.net!mudpie From: Dale Smeltzer To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: (no subject) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:27:17 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 05:32:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 05:25:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: glassgirl.com!jenny From: "Jennifer S. Geldard" To: "Shirley" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: Glass Racks Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <> Precedence: bulk I wouldn't go any wider than 8"... the less the better to eliminate stressing the glass when you flip through the colors. -Jen -----Original Message----- From: Shirley [mailto:sparent@uniserve.com] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:30 AM To: Glass@bungi.com Subject: Glass Racks I am in the process of building a glass rack out of 3/4" plywood. It will have slots 26", 18" and 12" high. I was wondering what you thought would be a good width for the slots and also if you would recommend lining the bottoms with something to facilitate the glass sliding in and out? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Shirley ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 07:12:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 07:00:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_55.d320096.27415925_boundary" Subject: Re: straight cuts problems Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:48:05 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_55.d320096.27415925_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have gotten soooo many replies that I am thanking everyone as a group! You guys are great! You have let me know by your answers, tips and suggestions that I am doing everything correctly. Whew! To answer a few.. the cutter's head is new, never thought of heating the glass a tad even though it was in the house and I know KOG is a pain to cut at times. I was so glad to hear that some of you can almost waste a whole sheet, too! Grrrrrr!!! But, good news!! I stuck with it last night, and, after changing glass.. I got the darn sled out fairly easily! And with KOG. Must have just been a very, very stubborn glass that I tried to use at first. It was rather heavily textured so that may be part of the problem. This wasn't. Anyway, thanks a million guys!! You are great at helping and not making me feel stupid or inadequate!! Ruth pookypook@AOL.com http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222 ICQ11716411 "Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_55.d320096.27415925_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have gotten soooo many replies that I am thanking everyone as a group! You
guys are great!  You have let me know by your answers, tips and suggestions
that I am doing everything correctly.  Whew! <g>  

To answer a few.. the cutter's head is new, never thought of heating the
glass a tad even though it was in the house and I know KOG is a pain to cut
at times.  I was so glad to hear that some of you can almost waste a whole
sheet, too! Grrrrrr!!!

But, good news!! I stuck with it last night, and, after changing glass.. I
got the darn sled out fairly easily! And with KOG.  Must have just been a
very, very stubborn glass that I tried to use at first. It was rather heavily
textured so that may be part of the problem. This wasn't.

Anyway, thanks a million guys!! You are great at helping and not making me
feel stupid or inadequate!!

Ruth
pookypook@AOL.com
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter
http://members.aol.com/Alyeska222
ICQ11716411
"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?" --part1_55.d320096.27415925_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 13:37:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:31:04 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: email.msn.com!TAZAM1 From: "TAZAM1" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Reinforcement of panels Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:43:54 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C04D77.C395DF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please help!!!!! I can not find any substantial information on how, why, where, etc., to = reinforce a panel over 4 sq. ft. What are the "weak spots"; how do you = avoid them; how the heck do you find out how to reinforce and when? I'm = working on a large panel, 3X4ft, and I don't want it to fall apart or = bend. I can't get any help locally and would appreciate any and all = advice. Terri ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C04D77.C395DF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please help!!!!!
 
I can not find any substantial = information on how,=20 why, where, etc., to reinforce a panel over 4 sq. ft.  What are the = "weak=20 spots"; how do you avoid them; how the heck do you find out how to = reinforce and=20 when?  I'm working on a large panel, 3X4ft, and I don't want it to = fall=20 apart or bend.  I can't get any help locally and would appreciate = any and=20 all advice.
 
Terri
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C04D77.C395DF40-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 14:30:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:20:40 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: email.msn.com!TAZAM1 From: "TAZAM1" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: You've got to be joking?!? Please read Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:17:13 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk ----- Not glass related, but very important!!! Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:18 PM Subject: You've got to be joking?!? > American Flag Dips to Vietnam, China? Naval Officers Claim Clinton to > Change Regulation to Placate Totalitarian Regimes > > By Geoff Metcalf > WorldNetDaily.com > > President Clinton reportedly plans to visit China and Vietnam before > the end of his term, and, according to high-ranking Navy officers, the > commander in chief will alter long-standing naval regulations to allow > the American flag to fly below that of Vietnam when he sails into the > communist nation's territorial waters on a U.S. Navy ship. Highly placed > > Navy sources who spoke on condition of anonymity believe this action on > the president's part would further devastate already tenuous Navy > morale. > > As part of his swan song, Clinton reportedly intends to visit two ports > aboard Naval vessels. Trip one takes him to the People's Republic of > China, which has a regulation that no war ship of any country may enter > its territorial waters flying a flag higher than that of the People's > Republic of China. According to one Navy source, China and the U.S. have > > effected a compromise whereby both flags -- the U.S. and the PRC -- > will be flown from U.S. naval vessels at the same height. > > But visceral outrage is resulting from a proposed change to Navy > regulations that would result in the American flag being displayed > subordinate to the flag of Vietnam. > > Navy regulations and tradition prescribe that no country's flag will be > displayed in a superior position to the U.S. flag. > > However, Vietnam's rules reportedly demand that the Vietnamese flag > shall always fly in a superior position to any other country's flag. > High-ranking naval officers, speaking on condition that their names not > be published, say the reason for all the alarm, anger and > career-threatening rhetoric is that Clinton allegedly has either > ordered, or is about to order, the Secretary of the Navy to amend > regulations to permit the Vietnamese flag to be displayed over the U.S. > > flag. > > "I'd like to blow the @#&*% thing up!" said one frustrated officer. > The United States Navy Regulations began with the enactment by the > Continental Congress of the "Rules for the Regulation of the Navy of the > > United Colonies" on Nov. 28, 1775. So a long and proud history bolsters > > the long-held Navy tradition that no country's flag will fly higher than > > that of the United States. > > Commenting on the report, Col. David Hackworth, America's most > decorated living war veteran, said, "What's new? Clinton has done > everything else to dishonor the flag, why not make it number two?" He > added, "Congress ought to pull this traitor's travel plug ... now." > > Calls to the Navy Staff Operations and Special Events office were > referred to the Public Affairs Office, which then referred WND to the > news desk. When WND outlined the scenario, the spokesman -- whose first > comment was, "Wow" -- later called back to say, "We haven't been able > to find anything on it yet, but we're trying to run the story to > ground." > > Adm. Thomas B. Fargo, commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, > reportedly has visited the People's Republic of China recently also, > although the reason for the trip is not known. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > NOTE: Some of you may wonder what the fuss is about, but please > remember that the Navy prides itself on honor and tradition. > > The Naval Officers are not being "childish and petty" when they speak > out against this. Morale is at an all-time low, and military commands > do not need to once again be berated for their job. How does this "slap > > in the face" decision fall under the power(s) of the Commander in > Chief? > > It reminds me of when Hillary ordered that uniforms not be worn by the > White House in-house Marines. This order still stands, if you visit the > White House today, 8 yrs. later. What used to be a sought-after, > privileged job, is now seen as a tour of punishment by these young > Marines who stand around in civilian clothes. They not only lost their > uniform but their self-esteem to be seen in the uniform they are asked > to defend. How much more can the people that are asked to defend our > freedom take? > > The crews on the Navy ships leave their families and loved ones behind > more than 6 months at a time. Everything possible should be done to > praise and encourage them for their dedication! > > Clinton will enjoy his boat ride for a few hours and never look back to > see the eyes of the men and women who serve our country. Just as the > Clinton Administration will never look back at the damage that has been > > done to our Military and to this Nation. > > Please forward this information to your E-Mail list.. It is being > blocked by all major news media. > > Ron Brassard > Air Force Program Manager > Phone (703) 502 2615 > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 14:38:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:28:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: email.msn.com!TAZAM1 From: "TAZAM1" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: reinforcement help update Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:26:12 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk I hope the mime is turned off this time. If not, please let me know how to turn it off. The panel is all copper foil, will have a 3/4" zinc came frame then framed in wood to hang free. I eagerly await your help!!! Thanks, Terri ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 18:38:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:18:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: mail2.nai.net!shad From: Family Account To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: straight cuts problems Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:00:01 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Funny, I've been going through a lot of that right now. And I was picking up glass at my local supplier and she was telling me how she was cutting some angels out of Yougiogheny and had not trouble, but as soon as she started with Specturm....Breakage. I find walking away and coming back the next day helps....but I don't always have that luxery...not this time of year, anyway. Cutting waterglass tonight. Should be okay.... Dorothy PookyPook@aol.com wrote: > I don't know what my problem is, but I can't seem to make good breaks. > No > matter what I try the glass breaks where ever IT wants to which is > usually > right through the middle of the glass so I can't use it! Argh!! I > use a lot > of KOG glass which can be a bear to cut, anyway. I am just trying to > make a > simple little sled... and got half-way through a piece before giving > up. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 19:52:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:36:48 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: "Family Account" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: straight cuts problems Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk sometimes it's not how you score, but how you break the glass that's important. i never rush a break. all my breaks are done by gentle breaking and pulling. like breaking peanut brittle; a sudden burst could cause it to shatter, but a slower more controlled bend should break it much cleaner. it can also mess up if the cutter falls into a bubble or a pit. or if the cutting head slides left or right a little.it can also happen if you stop in the middle of a cut, or if the pressure changes, or if the turn is too sudden. if you use the ball of many breaks, that's found at the back of the cutter, that thing leads the fracture in many directions. i avoid using it when possible. i'll use it for a deep curve, but just the deep curve. though i havn't used it in a real project, the M-80 breaker from morton, works really well. i wsa litterly able to score a 1/2" strip around a 12" x 12" mirror (3/32"), all the way around (i turned my self into a pretzal doing that). but i was able to break the thing right out, pretty neat, though be it useless. ---Mike Savad --- Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/ Contains a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass instruction, and many, many stained glass links. --- 11-7-00 - New Stuff Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now search my site with a built in engine. > -----Original Message----- > From: Family Account [mailto:shad@mail2.nai.net] > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:00 PM > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: Re: straight cuts problems > > > Funny, I've been going through a lot of that right now. And I was > picking up glass at my local supplier and she was telling me how she was > cutting some angels out of Yougiogheny and had not trouble, but as soon > as she started with Specturm....Breakage. > I find walking away and coming back the next day helps....but I don't > always have that luxery...not this time of year, anyway. Cutting > waterglass tonight. Should be okay.... > Dorothy > > PookyPook@aol.com wrote: > > > I don't know what my problem is, but I can't seem to make good breaks. > > No > > matter what I try the glass breaks where ever IT wants to which is > > usually > > right through the middle of the glass so I can't use it! Argh!! I > > use a lot > > of KOG glass which can be a bear to cut, anyway. I am just trying to > > make a > > simple little sled... and got half-way through a piece before giving > > up. > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 20:00:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:39:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: hotmail.com!mommabear776 From: "Rita Kimmons" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: glass rack Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:37:58 CST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 20:25:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:00:48 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: erols.com!hmjacobs From: Herb Jacobs To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: You've got to be joking - from TAZAMI Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:58:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk If this email list, which is supposed to be dedicated to our common interest in the craft of glass, is used for disseminating crackpot right wing fulminations, it will very rapidly lose its value to all of us. I know this is not a censored list, but there must be some way to keep the nutcases at bay. Herb Jacobs (who will probably be flamed by outraged "patriots") ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 20:57:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:37:28 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: hotmail.com!mommabear776 From: "Rita Kimmons" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: glass rack Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:43:57 CST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk My husband make me a glass rack out of metal book case. He drill holes through the shelves and ran wooden dowels down through the holes through the shelves from top to bottom. He spaces the dowel about an inch or so apart. This way I can see all the glass and he found that this was less expensive than making a wooden case. The book case cost about $50 and the dowel were about a dime a piece. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 21:57:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:32:33 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ilnk.com!andor From: "Linda Jo Letscher" To: "Rita Kimmons" , Subject: Re: glass rack Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:15:44 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Rita, Just watch the weight, glass starts to weigh a lot if you end up with a lot, and those metal shelves that are inexpensive sometimes aren't all that study. But whatever works for you is great. Linda Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Kimmons" To: Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 10:43 PM Subject: glass rack > My husband make me a glass rack out of metal book case. He drill holes > through the shelves and ran wooden dowels down through the holes through the > shelves from top to bottom. He spaces the dowel about an inch or so apart. > This way I can see all the glass and he found that this was less expensive > than making a wooden case. The book case cost about $50 and the dowel were > about a dime a piece. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 13 23:31:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:09:23 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: postoffice.pacbell.net!meryder From: meryder@postoffice.pacbell.net To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Glass Racks Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:53:25 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <> Precedence: bulk Hi Shirley, My glass rack has 5" wide slots. Each slot holds a lot of glass. Best regards, Cheryl Ryder Shirley wrote: > I am in the process of building a glass rack out of 3/4" plywood. It will > have slots 26", 18" and 12" high. I was wondering what you thought would > be a good width for the slots and also if you would recommend lining the > bottoms with something to facilitate the glass sliding in and out? > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks > Shirley > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 09:01:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:40:13 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: unibase.com!thegrainery From: Colleen Schick To: TAZAM1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Dearest TAZAM1 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:32:33 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk I am Canadian, and make stained glass... I did not join this mail site to hear "your over-inflated-american" version of what your "disney-like-media" tells you. By the way, We don't live in Igloos, and no I don't know Joe or Sally from Toronto, but I am sure they are very nice. Write a letter to your president, when you get one!!! HA HA HA HA !! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TAZAM1 wrote: > ----- > Not glass related, but very important!!! > > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:18 PM > Subject: You've got to be joking?!? > > > American Flag Dips to Vietnam, China? Naval Officers Claim Clinton to > > Change Regulation to Placate Totalitarian Regimes > > > > By Geoff Metcalf > > WorldNetDaily.com > > > > President Clinton reportedly plans to visit China and Vietnam before > > the end of his term, and, according to high-ranking Navy officers, the > > commander in chief will alter long-standing naval regulations to allow > > the American flag to fly below that of Vietnam when he sails into the > > communist nation's territorial waters on a U.S. Navy ship. Highly placed > > > > Navy sources who spoke on condition of anonymity believe this action on > > the president's part would further devastate already tenuous Navy > > morale. > > > > As part of his swan song, Clinton reportedly intends to visit two ports > > aboard Naval vessels. Trip one takes him to the People's Republic of > > China, which has a regulation that no war ship of any country may enter > > its territorial waters flying a flag higher than that of the People's > > Republic of China. According to one Navy source, China and the U.S. have > > > > effected a compromise whereby both flags -- the U.S. and the PRC -- > > will be flown from U.S. naval vessels at the same height. > > > > But visceral outrage is resulting from a proposed change to Navy > > regulations that would result in the American flag being displayed > > subordinate to the flag of Vietnam. > > > > Navy regulations and tradition prescribe that no country's flag will be > > displayed in a superior position to the U.S. flag. > > > > However, Vietnam's rules reportedly demand that the Vietnamese flag > > shall always fly in a superior position to any other country's flag. > > High-ranking naval officers, speaking on condition that their names not > > be published, say the reason for all the alarm, anger and > > career-threatening rhetoric is that Clinton allegedly has either > > ordered, or is about to order, the Secretary of the Navy to amend > > regulations to permit the Vietnamese flag to be displayed over the U.S. > > > > flag. > > > > "I'd like to blow the @#&*% thing up!" said one frustrated officer. > > The United States Navy Regulations began with the enactment by the > > Continental Congress of the "Rules for the Regulation of the Navy of the > > > > United Colonies" on Nov. 28, 1775. So a long and proud history bolsters > > > > the long-held Navy tradition that no country's flag will fly higher than > > > > that of the United States. > > > > Commenting on the report, Col. David Hackworth, America's most > > decorated living war veteran, said, "What's new? Clinton has done > > everything else to dishonor the flag, why not make it number two?" He > > added, "Congress ought to pull this traitor's travel plug ... now." > > > > Calls to the Navy Staff Operations and Special Events office were > > referred to the Public Affairs Office, which then referred WND to the > > news desk. When WND outlined the scenario, the spokesman -- whose first > > comment was, "Wow" -- later called back to say, "We haven't been able > > to find anything on it yet, but we're trying to run the story to > > ground." > > > > Adm. Thomas B. Fargo, commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, > > reportedly has visited the People's Republic of China recently also, > > although the reason for the trip is not known. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > NOTE: Some of you may wonder what the fuss is about, but please > > remember that the Navy prides itself on honor and tradition. > > > > The Naval Officers are not being "childish and petty" when they speak > > out against this. Morale is at an all-time low, and military commands > > do not need to once again be berated for their job. How does this "slap > > > > in the face" decision fall under the power(s) of the Commander in > > Chief? > > > > It reminds me of when Hillary ordered that uniforms not be worn by the > > White House in-house Marines. This order still stands, if you visit the > > White House today, 8 yrs. later. What used to be a sought-after, > > privileged job, is now seen as a tour of punishment by these young > > Marines who stand around in civilian clothes. They not only lost their > > uniform but their self-esteem to be seen in the uniform they are asked > > to defend. How much more can the people that are asked to defend our > > freedom take? > > > > The crews on the Navy ships leave their families and loved ones behind > > more than 6 months at a time. Everything possible should be done to > > praise and encourage them for their dedication! > > > > Clinton will enjoy his boat ride for a few hours and never look back to > > see the eyes of the men and women who serve our country. Just as the > > Clinton Administration will never look back at the damage that has been > > > > done to our Military and to this Nation. > > > > Please forward this information to your E-Mail list.. It is being > > blocked by all major news media. > > > > Ron Brassard > > Air Force Program Manager > > Phone (703) 502 2615 > > > > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 09:36:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:29:48 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Bobfuses From: Bobfuses@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Dearest TAZAM1 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:13:14 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk OK, let's call a halt to comment on inappropriate posts. If it ain't glass it ain't class. Bob in 9 2 0 2 6 Almost all electrons used in the creation of this message were recycled. No electrons used in the production of this message were harmed or mistreated in any manner. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 10:08:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:52:42 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: gjr From: gjr@bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: Bobfuses@aol.com, glass Subject: Re: Dearest TAZAM1 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:51:59 PST Message-ID: Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: Dearest TAZAM1" on Nov 14, 12:13, Bobfuses@aol.com writes:] > OK, let's call a halt to comment on inappropriate posts. If it ain't glass it > ain't class. > Yes, thank you Bob. I was just about to step in here. Everyone,..please stick to glass topics. Thanks, -- Glenna Rand gjr@bungi.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 10:37:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:08:33 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie_Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: reinforcement help update Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:26:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk i would run two strips of reinforcement vertically, dividing up the piece into thirds and use 3/4" lead came frame. the wood frame will then be sufficient to support this panel. if it was any larger, i'd add horizontal rebar to the back, rabbetted into the wooden frame and attached to the panel with wire ties. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: TAZAM1 [mailto:TAZAM1@email.msn.com] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 3:26 PM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: reinforcement help update The panel is all copper foil, will have a 3/4" zinc came frame then framed in wood to hang free. I eagerly await your help!!! Thanks, Terri ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 12:41:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:22:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: mindspring.com!cholloway From: Craig Holloway To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Cutter's Mate Sale Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:02:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20001114190216.00678898@pop.mindspring.com> Precedence: bulk Hi All! I was tlking to Ray the owner of my local glass shop(Art Glass Emporium). He said,"He would sell the standard size Cutter's Mate for $ 199.95 + 20.00 shiping/handling in the US. Ray can be reached at (770) 867-3939. Craig ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 19:20:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:00:13 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!EBR413 From: EBR413@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com, TAZAM1@email.msn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Reinforcement of panels Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:54:07 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Another way to reinforce (not too big windows) is by inserting a thin copper tape inside the lead channels before fitting of the glass pieces. This tape fits perfectly inside the channels and bends around the curves. Just run a piece as long as you can without stopping and cut with your lead cutter. Once with the putty dried - this makes for a very strong window and eliminates the need for reinforcement bars. Elaine (EBR413@aol.com) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 14 22:31:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:24:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!Moya-Don From: "D. ONeal" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: RE:Reinforcement of panels Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:21:21 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C04DB7.ABB08480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Terri, You will find all sorts of information on reinforcing in the bungi = archives. It will be a great learning experience. If you still have = questions, come back to this site and you will get help. Moya ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C04DB7.ABB08480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Terri,
You will find all sorts of information on reinforcing in the bungi=20 archives.  It will be a great learning experience.  If you = still have=20 questions, come back to this site and you will get help.
Moya
------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C04DB7.ABB08480-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 15 13:32:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:22:41 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Florentine glass Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:17:17 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk The following was sent to the IGGA website. If anyone knows what this Florentine glass is, would they please let me know? Thanks. Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: Wanda Cortes, INTERNET:wcortes@rr-a.com To: "'ensembles@compuserve.com'", ensembles = Date: 11/08/2000 11:42 AM RE: Help! = My husband is restoring an old building (1918) and we can not find Florentine glass in Puerto Rico. We would love to have the original color= s (green and lavender) but any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks = Mois=E9s Col=F3n = moisec@bigplanet.com = or wcortes@servicioscreativospr.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 15 15:22:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:05:49 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: "Tim Hamilton" , Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Looking for artist: Prater-Heier Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Message text written by "Tim Hamilton" >My husband has come across some glass etchings with the signature at the= bottom and we can't find any information on the artist. Can you help? = The artist name is: Prater-Heier My e-mail address is redhot87@hotmail.com thank you< This request came to the IGGA email. If anyone on this online glass bulletin board has any information about the artist Prater-Heier, please contact Tim Hamilton at Timhamilton83@hotmail.com. Thanks. Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 15 17:31:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:23:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Fsagg From: Fsagg@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: murano sheets? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:20:40 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Anyone know where I can get Murano in sheets? thanks in advance! ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 16 06:32:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 06:28:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: email.msn.com!TAZAM1 From: "TAZAM1" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: apology Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:08:25 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk I apologize if I offended anyone with the previous message about Clinton going to China/Vietnam. It was not my intention and I shall refrain from doing so in the future. Please accept my apology, Terri ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 16 15:01:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:54:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Glass Art Society's 2001 Conference Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:49:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk The following press release is from the Glass Art Society, and is being forwarded to bungi.com as a service provided by IGGA. It does not necessarily imply endorsement. Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: Glass Art Society, INTERNET:CommCoord@glassart.org To: [unknown], INTERNET:members@igga.org Date: 11/15/2000 3:33 PM RE: Glass Art Society's 2001 Conference = Contact: Penny Berk, Executive Director Tamara Gill, Communications Coordinator FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Glass Art Society's 31st Annual Conference At the Crossroads of Art, History and Technology June 13-17, 2001, Corning, New York The Conference Brochure, with registration forms, program details and = travel and lodging information, is now available from the G.A.S. = office. Lifetime Achievement Award Recipient: Thomas Buechner Honorary Lifetime Membership Recipient: Mark Peiser Keynote Lecturer: Dr. Barbara Maria Stafford Lectures, Presentations and Panel Discussions will take place at The = Corning Museum of Glass (CMOG) and Corning Incorporated Headquarters, = June 14-17. Demonstrations in glassblowing, casting and flameworking will take = place at CMOG and The Studio of the CMOG, June 14-17. Glass Fashion Show will take place at the Opening Ceremonies, = Thursday night, June 14, at the CMOG Auditorium. Auction (a fundraiser for the organization) will take place prior to = the Closing Party, Saturday night, June 16. Exhibitions of works in glass, including Glass of the Sultans at = CMOG, will be on display throughout the Corning area. Tours will include the Sullivan Park Research Center, Fall Brook = Manufacturing Plant, Steuben Factory, The Corning Museum of Glass, = and Glass Installations at the Corning Incorporated Headquarters. Technical Display Booths will provide attendees an opportunity to = purchase glass-related products and services. Resource Center will offer Professional Practices Seminars, = critiques, school presentations and panel discussions. Registration runs January 15 - May 15, 2001. Register on-line at = www.glassart.org. After May 15, sign up at the Conference. On-site = registration begins Wednesday, June 13, 2001. Student Scholarships are available to full-time students. Juried. = Applications are due March 15, 2001. Contact G.A.S. for details. Conference Co-Chairs: Peter Aldridge, Vice President & Creative Director for Product Design = and Development, Steuben Elizabeth Whitehouse, owner, Whitehouse Books For more information please contact the Glass Art Society at 1305 Fourth Ave. Suite 711, Seattle, WA 98101-2401, Tel: = 206-382-1305, Fax: 206-382-2630, E-Mail: info@glassart.org= ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 17 15:02:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: home.com!lorley From: Lorley Oneyear To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: hearts Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001117153551.009e95f0@mail.rdc1.az.home.com> Precedence: bulk I am making some small heart sun cathchers. I am using the 3" square bevel and then attaching two semi circles to form a heart pattern. I solder a jump ring at the "cleavage" of the heart in order to hang it from a suction cup. The lady at the stained glass shop asked me if I was reinforcing the heart with a wire around the perimeter. I have not in the past as they are only made up of three pieces and I didn't feel it was really necessary. But now it's got me thinking.. should I run a piece or wire around the edge?? any tricks to making a smooth bead around that wire?? Thanks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 17 15:36:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:23:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Bobfuses From: Bobfuses@aol.com To: lorley@home.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: hearts Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:13:17 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 11/17/00 3:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, lorley@home.com writes: > I am making some small heart sun catchers. I am using the 3" square bevel > and then attaching two semi circles to form a heart pattern. I solder a > jump ring at the "cleavage" of the heart in order to hang it from a suction > cup. The lady at the stained glass shop asked me if I was reinforcing the > heart with a wire around the perimeter. The lady at the stained glass shop is likely thinking that the straight solder lines that join the two semi circles on will cause the semi circles to fall off in time. A thin wire that goes all around the piece will make your piece much stronger. Whenever a straight line crosses an unframed piece there is a good chance of failure. If such lines are converted to a slight curve than the piece gains much strength. Bob in 9 2 0 2 6 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 17 15:56:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:33:54 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: Lorley Oneyear , glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Subject: Re: hearts Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:21:33 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<5.0.0.25.2.20001117153551.009e95f0@mail.rdc1.az.home.com>> Precedence: bulk PS... I really love Canfield solder. As far as 50/50, 60/40. etc..... You can get as good a bead or better with their 50/50 as with anyone elses 60/40, jmho. Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 17 16:36:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:05:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: Lorley Oneyear Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Subject: Re: hearts Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:17:58 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<5.0.0.25.2.20001117153551.009e95f0@mail.rdc1.az.home.com>> Precedence: bulk For what you discribe Lorley, I dont think you need to reinforce it. The way I get a good bead around, is hold it upright and tap solder on, and even it out by tapping with the side of my tip. I use a 1/4 inch tip when I copperfoil. Also make sure your tip isnt too hot. If it drips off, just do it again. If it starts to form peaks, re flux. Suzanne Lorley Oneyear wrote: > > I am making some small heart sun cathchers. I am using the 3" square bevel > and then attaching two semi circles to form a heart pattern. I solder a > jump ring at the "cleavage" of the heart in order to hang it from a suction > cup. The lady at the stained glass shop asked me if I was reinforcing the > heart with a wire around the perimeter. I have not in the past as they are > only made up of three pieces and I didn't feel it was really necessary. But > now it's got me thinking.. should I run a piece or wire around the edge?? > any tricks to making a smooth bead around that wire?? Thanks > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 17 17:35:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:04:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Subject: Re: hearts Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:02:54 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk lol...but if in doubt, listen to Bob~! ;o) ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 18 00:34:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:12:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: go.com!officerjqg From: James Garner To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: hearts Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:04:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk I just fixed a piece last month that was exactly as you described. The foil failed and the hump fell off. In general it is a very week piece but reinforcing without making it look weird would be difficult. I would, if I were to do that piece, at least use the 7/32 foil instead of the usual smaller foil. James -----Original Message----- From: "Lorley Oneyear" To: glass@bungi.com Date: Fri Nov 17 14:42:03 PST 2000 Subject: hearts >I am making some small heart sun cathchers. I am using the 3" square bevel >and then attaching two semi circles to form a heart pattern. I solder a >jump ring at the "cleavage" of the heart in order to hang it from a suction >cup. The lady at the stained glass shop asked me if I was reinforcing the >heart with a wire around the perimeter. I have not in the past as they are >only made up of three pieces and I didn't feel it was really necessary. But >now it's got me thinking.. should I run a piece or wire around the edge?? >any tricks to making a smooth bead around that wire?? 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 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 19 19:37:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:08:28 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: fastlane.net!byronw From: "Byron Wells" To: "Christie A. Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Florentine glass Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:18:55 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Wismach makes a glas they call Florentine.. I have it in clear and I'm sure it comes in various colors.. Byron... Wells Glassowrks ----- Original Message ----- From: Christie A. Wood To: Bungi Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:17 PM Subject: Florentine glass > The following was sent to the IGGA website. If anyone knows what this > Florentine glass is, would they please let me know? Thanks. > > Christie A. Wood > North Wales, PA USA > > -------------Forwarded Message----------------- > > From: Wanda Cortes, INTERNET:wcortes@rr-a.com > To: "'ensembles@compuserve.com'", ensembles > = > > Date: 11/08/2000 11:42 AM > > RE: Help! > > = > > My husband is restoring an old building (1918) and we can not find > Florentine glass in Puerto Rico. We would love to have the original color= > s > (green and lavender) but any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks = > > Mois=E9s Col=F3n = > > moisec@bigplanet.com = > > or wcortes@servicioscreativospr.com > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 19 19:53:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:09:02 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: fastlane.net!byronw From: "Byron Wells" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Inventory Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:16:47 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Hey all.. Those of you out there doing this for a living, how do you keep track of what all you have in stock?? Being a 1 man shop this task has me buried. Several times I have tried counting glass,bevels,clusters etc then adding and deducting as stuff came in and went out. I always seem to get behind in the tallies or loose the papers they are on etc.. I'm thinking maybe some sort of Palm Pilot or mabe a Touchscreen hooked into my computer or something.. There HAS to be an easier way to keep up with this mess... Byron... Wells Glassworks ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 19 19:55:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:21:12 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: fastlane.net!byronw From: "Byron Wells" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: You've got to be joking - from TAZAMI Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:07:20 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk One of the reasons a lot of good folks have left this list over the years is the constant non-glass crap that gets dumped on here along with the endless arguments that spring up etc.. Really to bad as a lot of the folks that have left such as Dani Greer had a lot to share with thier fellow glass enthusiests.. Byron... Wells Glassworks ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Jacobs To: Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: You've got to be joking - from TAZAMI > If this email list, which is supposed to be dedicated to our common > interest in the craft of glass, is used for disseminating crackpot > right wing fulminations, it will very rapidly lose its value to all of > us. I know this is not a censored list, but there must be some way to > keep the nutcases at bay. Herb Jacobs (who will probably be flamed by > outraged "patriots") > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 19 22:06:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:30:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: warmglass.com!mbwalker From: "Brad Walker" To: , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: murano sheets? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:11:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Not sure what you're asking for. Murano is the name of an island off Venice that has a long history of glass-making, but the name Murano is not usually used to refer to a particular type of glass. If you mean millefiori or murrina (often made in Murano) in sheet form, then I don't believe this is available anywhere (and it would be extremely expensive if it were). If, on the other hand, you mean Moretti/Effetre glass, which is made in Italy as well, then both C&R Loo and Frantz Bead carry this in sheets. Urls are: www.crloo.com and www.olywa.net/frantzbead/ Hope this helps. Brad Walker ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about warm glass techniques and processes such as fusing, slumping, and kiln forming, please visit the Warm Glass website at http://www.warmglass.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:20 PM Subject: murano sheets? > Anyone know where I can get Murano in sheets? > thanks in advance! > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 19 22:25:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:02:12 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!Moya-Don From: "D. ONeal" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Inventory Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C05287.5B2FDD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Byron, Your best bet is to probably invest in the time to organize a bar code = system for your computer. In the long run it will make your life much = happier and easier. In the short run there is the learning curve and = the input time which are the pits. Moya ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C05287.5B2FDD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Byron,
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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C05287.5B2FDD60-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 05:05:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:42:10 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Wskyrnr21 From: Wskyrnr21@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: apology Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:39:39 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk You need to abide your own wishes, There was an apology written days ago. Watch your glass house. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 05:33:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:12:36 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: clientes.euskaltel.es!elere From: "Elena Rod4ríguez Echebarria" To: Shirley , Bungi List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Glass Racks and X-mas 3-d tree pattern Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <> Precedence: bulk Hi Shirley and all I havejust had a glass rack built; it is made of artificial wood and the bottom surface is something like formica, so that glass slides in and out easily, the measures are 140 cm high (55 inches) and 60 or 70 cm in depth (24-30 inches), a bit larger than full glass sheets' measures, which are about 120 x 60 cm; the slots are some 20 cm wide (8 inches); I used as a reference the measures of the rack at my suppliers, but slots are a bit wider; hope this helps. I would like to have the pattern for a 3-d Xmas tree someone made available last year, can anyone help? Best regards Elena Shirley escribió: > I am in the process of building a glass rack out of 3/4" plywood. It will > have slots 26", 18" and 12" high. I was wondering what you thought would > be a good width for the slots and also if you would recommend lining the > bottoms with something to facilitate the glass sliding in and out? > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks > Shirley > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 08:08:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:54:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Fsagg From: Fsagg@aol.com To: mbwalker@warmglass.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: murano sheets? Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:52:51 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk I saw someone selling some on ebay cut into small pieces for use in mosaics and wondered where sheets were available for purchase. If I can locate the auction number I will post it here thanks for your replies In a message dated 11/19/00 11:10:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, mbwalker@warmglass.com writes: << Not sure what you're asking for. Murano is the name of an island off Venice that has a long history of glass-making, but the name Murano is not usually used to refer to a particular type of glass. If you mean millefiori or murrina (often made in Murano) in sheet form, then I don't believe this is available anywhere (and it would be extremely expensive if it were). If, on the other hand, you mean Moretti/Effetre glass, which is made in Italy as well, then both C&R Loo and Frantz Bead carry this in sheets. >> ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 08:40:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:58:37 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Fsagg From: Fsagg@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: murano glass sheets Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:58:10 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Here is the ebay auction item title and number: "Mosaic Tile Handcut Murano Glass 110+ Item #501129155" and the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=501129155 Can someone look at it and tell me what it is? I wrote to the seller but got no reply. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 09:35:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:07:40 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: heesun.com!keane From: "Hee Sun Stained Glass, LTD." To: "Byron Wells" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Inventory Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:16:34 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk A real easy and low cost inventory control program and pos program is ATREX put out my Millenium software group. We have been using it for about 3-4 years and love it. It supports bar code, cash drawer and much more and all for under $300.00. This will also keep track of all your customers, invoice them, keep control of your banking, print out mailing labels, and the list goes on. If you have any questions email me directly . Their website is www.atrex.com and there is a full blown working version available for download and evaluation . Robert Keane Hee Sun Stained Glass LTD 324 Main Street Reisterstown, MD 21136 410-833-3007 jeanne@heesun.com www.heesun.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Byron Wells To: Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: Inventory > Hey all.. > > Those of you out there doing this for a living, how do you keep track of > what all you have in stock?? Being a 1 man shop this task has me buried. > Several times I have tried counting glass,bevels,clusters etc then adding > and deducting as stuff came in and went out. I always seem to get behind in > the tallies or loose the papers they are on etc.. I'm thinking maybe some > sort of Palm Pilot or mabe a Touchscreen hooked into my computer or > something.. There HAS to be an easier way to keep up with this mess... > Byron... > Wells Glassworks > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 10:50:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:26:18 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: charter.net!jkwilliams From: "Kim and Jody Williams" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: 3D Christmas Tree Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:45:47 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C052E7.6C4ECB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are two patterns I have found on the net. I use my computer to = change the size and make grouping of 3 different sizes. My friends love = them. Hope this helps. http://www.warner-criv.com/patterns/show_pattern.asp?pattern=3Dxmas8&pg=3D= Christmas+Patterns http://www.warner-criv.com/patterns/show_pattern.asp?pattern=3Dxmas7&pg=3D= Christmas+Patterns A Touch of Glass Kim Williams jkwilliams@charter.net ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C052E7.6C4ECB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here are two patterns I = have found=20 on the net.  I use my computer to change the size and make grouping = of 3=20 different sizes.  My friends love them.  Hope this = helps.
 
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jkwilliams@charter.net<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C052E7.6C4ECB00-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 12:47:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:38:52 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Shirley Subject: Re: Glass Racks Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:22:42 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <> Precedence: bulk You may already have built these glass racks, but I would add one suggestion for the next time you build them: Put the divisions on the tall racks in a very acute "A" shape. This allows the glass to tip apart while you are looking through the pieces, with support (that is they don't have to stand away from the bottom of the upright. I'd like to know how long the Formica top (that someone suggested for the bottom of the racks) lasts. I suspect that the sliding glass will affect it after a year or so. Steve In message , Shirley writes >I am in the process of building a glass rack out of 3/4" plywood. It will >have slots 26", 18" and 12" high. I was wondering what you thought would >be a good width for the slots and also if you would recommend lining the >bottoms with something to facilitate the glass sliding in and out? >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >Thanks >Shirley > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 13:04:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:39:00 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Byron Wells Subject: Re: Inventory Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@?>> Precedence: bulk I do it once a year, drafting in as many relatives and friends as I can. Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@?>, Byron Wells writes >Hey all.. > >Those of you out there doing this for a living, how do you keep track of >what all you have in stock?? Being a 1 man shop this task has me buried. >Several times I have tried counting glass,bevels,clusters etc then adding >and deducting as stuff came in and went out. I always seem to get behind in >the tallies or loose the papers they are on etc.. I'm thinking maybe some >sort of Palm Pilot or mabe a Touchscreen hooked into my computer or >something.. There HAS to be an easier way to keep up with this mess... >Byron... >Wells Glassworks > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 20 13:12:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:40:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Brad Walker Subject: Re: murano sheets? Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@?>> Precedence: bulk Brad, et. al. There is a glass called murano in the UK. I believe it is made by Wissmach. It is a multiplicity of small multi-pointed stars or daisy flower shapes. The name has almost nothing to do with Murano. The pattern was devised and produced from a glass works in Murano Street, Glasgow for a number of years before the first world war. It became very popular, and so now is used as a replacement glass. It is available in about 5 colours (tints) Steve 70Jan1.000.0@?>, Brad Walker writes >Not sure what you're asking for. Murano is the name of an island off Venice >that has a long history of glass-making, but the name Murano is not usually >used to refer to a particular type of glass. If you mean millefiori or >murrina (often made in Murano) in sheet form, then I don't believe this is >available anywhere (and it would be extremely expensive if it were). If, on >the other hand, you mean Moretti/Effetre glass, which is made in Italy as >well, then both C&R Loo and Frantz Bead carry this in sheets. > >Urls are: www.crloo.com and www.olywa.net/frantzbead/ > >Hope this helps. > >Brad Walker >----------------------------------------------------------------- >For information about warm glass techniques and processes >such as fusing, slumping, and kiln forming, please visit >the Warm Glass website at http://www.warmglass.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:20 PM >Subject: murano sheets? > > >> Anyone know where I can get Murano in sheets? >> thanks in advance! >> ---- >> For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >> To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >> Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 14:02:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:56:37 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: fastlane.net!byronw From: "Byron Wells" To: "Hee Sun Stained Glass, LTD." , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Inventory Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:55:38 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Ahhh.. Now this sounds like what I need. If I had a retail shop it would be easy to track through the register but since I just do comission work its a lot harder to keep up with.. When I had around 100 full sheets of glass and a few boxes of bevels things were MUCH easier to keep a handle on.. Nearing the 1000 mark now on glass sheets plus hundreds of bevels and growing cluster piles and it seems as if my customers can always sense what all I'm short on and they all want say Artique.. Byron... Wells Glassworks ----- Original Message ----- From: Hee Sun Stained Glass, LTD. To: Byron Wells ; Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Inventory > A real easy and low cost inventory control program and pos program is ATREX > put out my Millenium software group. We have been using it for about 3-4 > years and love it. It supports bar code, cash drawer and much more and all > for under $300.00. This will also keep track of all your customers, > invoice them, keep control of your banking, print out mailing labels, and > the list goes on. If you have any questions email me directly . Their > website is www.atrex.com and there is a full blown working version > available for download and evaluation . > > > Robert Keane > Hee Sun Stained Glass LTD > 324 Main Street > Reisterstown, MD 21136 > 410-833-3007 > jeanne@heesun.com > www.heesun.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Byron Wells > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 9:16 PM > Subject: Inventory > > > > Hey all.. > > > > Those of you out there doing this for a living, how do you keep track of > > what all you have in stock?? Being a 1 man shop this task has me buried. > > Several times I have tried counting glass,bevels,clusters etc then adding > > and deducting as stuff came in and went out. I always seem to get behind > in > > the tallies or loose the papers they are on etc.. I'm thinking maybe some > > sort of Palm Pilot or mabe a Touchscreen hooked into my computer or > > something.. There HAS to be an easier way to keep up with this mess... > > Byron... > > Wells Glassworks > > > > ---- > > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 15:48:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:31:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com!DF125031 From: "Becker, Donna" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Grozer facts? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:29:36 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk > Christmas is coming and I have grozers on my list. Yes, I know it is PATHETI-SAD! How is it even possible to do stained glass without them. Well, I'm hoping to be using my grinder a whole lot less. > Anyone want to recommend a brand or some > characteristics I should be looking for? > > Donna Becker > donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 16:06:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:05:28 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com!DF125031 From: "Becker, Donna" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Flux -Do you feel strongly about yours? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:49:05 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Thank you all for your help in the past. Here's another one. When I started doing stained glass I picked up this great gel flux, it left no residue and worked great. I ran out of it, and ordered some other flux, not thinking there was a difference, but there is! This stuff is awful, and it came in a big bottle. It's stinky and it leaves a nasty residue, and yada yada yada. Anyway, I would love to find out what flux you all can't live without, because I just can't take it anymore (and WC has a 10% off sale that's almost over). Donna Becker donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 16:58:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:33:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie_Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: Grozer facts? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:03:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk no specific recommendation, but i always found the combo grozer/breaker to not work as well as dedicated grozers. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: Becker, Donna [mailto:DF125031@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:30 PM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Grozer facts? > Christmas is coming and I have grozers on my list. Yes, I know it is PATHETI-SAD! How is it even possible to do stained glass without them. Well, I'm hoping to be using my grinder a whole lot less. > Anyone want to recommend a brand or some > characteristics I should be looking for? > > Donna Becker > donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 17:32:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:33:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie_Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: Grozer facts? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:03:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk no specific recommendation, but i always found the combo grozer/breaker to not work as well as dedicated grozers. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: Becker, Donna [mailto:DF125031@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:30 PM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Grozer facts? > Christmas is coming and I have grozers on my list. Yes, I know it is PATHETI-SAD! How is it even possible to do stained glass without them. Well, I'm hoping to be using my grinder a whole lot less. > Anyone want to recommend a brand or some > characteristics I should be looking for? > > Donna Becker > donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 18:19:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:52:01 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: fastlane.net!byronw From: "Byron Wells" To: "Christie A. Wood" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: Florentine glass Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:18:55 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>>> Precedence: bulk Wismach makes a glas they call Florentine.. I have it in clear and I'm sure it comes in various colors.. Byron... Wells Glassowrks ----- Original Message ----- From: Christie A. Wood To: Bungi Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:17 PM Subject: Florentine glass > The following was sent to the IGGA website. If anyone knows what this > Florentine glass is, would they please let me know? Thanks. > > Christie A. Wood > North Wales, PA USA > > -------------Forwarded Message----------------- > > From: Wanda Cortes, INTERNET:wcortes@rr-a.com > To: "'ensembles@compuserve.com'", ensembles > = > > Date: 11/08/2000 11:42 AM > > RE: Help! > > = > > My husband is restoring an old building (1918) and we can not find > Florentine glass in Puerto Rico. We would love to have the original color= > s > (green and lavender) but any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks = > > Mois=E9s Col=F3n = > > moisec@bigplanet.com = > > or wcortes@servicioscreativospr.com > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 21 18:35:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:03:35 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: pacbell.net!ezbongo2 From: rrk To: "Becker, Donna" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Flux -Do you feel strongly about yours? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:42:55 -0800 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net>> Precedence: bulk Hi Donna, I'm not certain what your "gel flux" is ... but I have a suspicion its related to what I've been using for a while now. I use a paste flux (could be called a gel) obtainable from most hardware stores (I get mine from Home Depot most of the time) that was, in fact, designed for plumbing applications soldering copper pipes and sleeves. The stuff I use is : Oatey, H-20(superscript 95) Water Soluble Tinning Flux. It contains zinc chloride, triethanolamine hydrochloride, tin, copper, and bismuth. Probably also contains a few other things not listed but with little to zero toxic effects. Non-hazardous substances NJTSRN 80100453-5006, 5007, 5008, 5009, and 5010 are listed on the label, I suspect these are the "gelling agents" ... probably some non-toxic polymer, maybe a starch. No time to look these up but I included them for those interested. As I recall, there are several other manufacturers who have essentially the same goop. As I recall, the liquid fluxes are essentially zinc chloride in aqueous solution with a bit of "soap" (probably sodium lauryl sulfate or something similar) with a little of triethanolamine hydrochloride thrown in (to keep the zinc chloride in solution). This paste formula works great, MUCH MUCH MUCH better than "traditional" liquid stained glass fluxes that must be sprayed or brushed on. For one thing its a paste so I just goop it on and start soldering. No spitting whatsoever. Toxic fumes are nil being trapped by the gel itself. For another, since its a paste, you put it on once and don't have to re-apply because of evaporation unlike liquid fluxes. No oxidation of the solder from residual flux. After having done .... oh I dunno, quite a few pieces with it, > 100 anyway ... I have yet to see ANY "white spots" on any of the solder after, I guess a year or so, maybe 18 months. Little polishing or treatment of the solder is necessary after. I just wash the stuff off with tap water (no soap necessary) ... et voila ... ready for patina or whatever. As a matter of fact, I left a few pieces untreated, and the solder is still as shiny as the day I soldered it many moons ago ... perhaps a protective layer is in place, who knows. The pieces I've applied patina to seem OK to me. I applied wax to the patina on some but not on others. Those without wax seem to be OK, just don't have that "shiny waxed" look ... depends on the piece I guess. Sometimes I painted the solder with a good flat black enamel ... that seems to work too. In conclusion, my opinion is that, once again, tradition is great until someone capable of clear and reasoned thinking finds a better way at which point "tradition" should be shown the back door and booted out. Someone found a way to better way to solder with paste fluxes ... and I won't go back to those awful liquid fluxes with tremendous waste and toxic fumes and oxidation afterwards for love nor money. [Check to see if the "gel flux" from Warner-Criv isn't pretty much the same thing I just described. If it is, buy from them ... keep em in biz etc ]. Regards to all, Bob Kerr "Becker, Donna" wrote: > Thank you all for your help in the past. Here's another one. > When I started doing stained glass I picked up this great gel flux, it left > no residue > and worked great. I ran out of it, and ordered some other flux, not > thinking there was > a difference, but there is! This stuff is awful, and it came in a big > bottle. It's stinky > and it leaves a nasty residue, and yada yada yada. > Anyway, I would love to find out what flux you all can't live without, > because I just > can't take it anymore (and WC has a 10% off sale that's almost over). > > Donna Becker > donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 22 08:36:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:31:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: unibase.com!thegrainery From: Colleen Schick To: "glass@bungi.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Leaded paint Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:29:49 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk I just received a brochure from a company who makes the old-fashioned church windows and they paint the images on the pieces of clear glass with a "lead paint" and fuse it in a kiln. It's supposed to stay permanently etched for hundreds of years. Anyone know where to get some of this paint, and is it fireable in a pottery kiln? Is there a website or book on this? Thanks Colleen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 22 16:25:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:13:34 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: glassgirl.com!jenny From: "Jennifer S. Geldard" To: "Colleen Schick" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: RE: Leaded paint Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:00:10 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Try http://www.sundanceglass.com They've got a few different types of glass paints. And some great support. -Jen -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Schick [mailto:thegrainery@unibase.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 11:30 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Leaded paint I just received a brochure from a company who makes the old-fashioned church windows and they paint the images on the pieces of clear glass with a "lead paint" and fuse it in a kiln. It's supposed to stay permanently etched for hundreds of years. Anyone know where to get some of this paint, and is it fireable in a pottery kiln? Is there a website or book on this? Thanks Colleen ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 22 19:00:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:58:33 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: "Becker, Donna" Subject: Re: Flux -Do you feel strongly about yours? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:12:27 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@?>> Precedence: bulk Tallow is the best flux I have ever found. It works on copperfoil too Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@?>, Becker, Donna writes >Thank you all for your help in the past. Here's another one. >When I started doing stained glass I picked up this great gel flux, it left >no residue >and worked great. I ran out of it, and ordered some other flux, not >thinking there was >a difference, but there is! This stuff is awful, and it came in a big >bottle. It's stinky >and it leaves a nasty residue, and yada yada yada. >Anyway, I would love to find out what flux you all can't live without, >because I just >can't take it anymore (and WC has a 10% off sale that's almost over). > >Donna Becker >donna.becker@chicagoil.ncr.com > >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 23 05:59:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 05:30:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #525 built 2000-Oct-21) X-Path: aol.com!Wskyrnr21 From: Wskyrnr21@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: gel flux Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:28:03 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Which brands are we agreeing on as the best? I have read that fluxomatic is the best? WC or local retailer? Kevin ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 24 16:01:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:48:08 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: clientes.euskaltel.es!elere From: "Elena Rod4ríguez Echebarria" To: Bungi List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: thaks for tree pattern Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:29:37 +0100 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Hello everyone This is just to thank you for sending the requested pattern, and Happy season! Best regards Elena ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Fri Nov 24 21:01:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:40:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: aol.com!Shecharlie From: Shecharlie@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_23.3fb4851.27509c2c_boundary" Subject: grinder Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:38:04 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_23.3fb4851.27509c2c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! Help! the bit of my grinder won't come off, even though i put grinding coolant in the grinder. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this off. Thanks for any help you can give me. sheila smith shecharlie@aol.com --part1_23.3fb4851.27509c2c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! Help!
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Thanks for any help you can give me.
sheila smith      
shecharlie@aol.com --part1_23.3fb4851.27509c2c_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 25 08:29:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:17:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: RE: grinder Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C056D1.70F175C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit grinder coolant only extends the life of the bit, next time put antisieze on the shaft. put wd-40 or liquid wrench on the top and let it soak for a while. then very lightly tap it with a small piece of wood (a hammer is too haeavy). it should break free then. ---Mike Savad --- Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/ Contains a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass instruction, and many, many stained glass links. --- 11-7-00 - New Stuff Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now search my site with a built in engine. -----Original Message----- From: Shecharlie@aol.com [mailto:Shecharlie@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 11:38 PM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: grinder Help! Help! the bit of my grinder won't come off, even though i put grinding coolant in the grinder. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this off. Thanks for any help you can give me. sheila smith shecharlie@aol.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C056D1.70F175C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
grinder coolant only extends the life of the bit, next time put = antisieze=20 on the shaft.
 
put=20 wd-40 or liquid wrench on the top and let it soak for a while. then very = lightly=20 tap it with a small piece of wood (a hammer is too haeavy). it should = break free=20 then.
 
 
---Mike Savad
 
 

---
Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Pa= ris/1141/
Contains=20 a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass = instruction, and many, many stained glass links.
---
11-7-00 - New = Stuff=20 Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now = search=20 my site with a built in engine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shecharlie@aol.com = [mailto:Shecharlie@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 = 11:38=20 PM
To: glass@bungi.com
Subject:=20 grinder

Help! Help! =
the bit of=20 my grinder won't come off, even though i put grinding coolant in =
the=20 grinder. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this off. =
Thanks for=20 any help you can give me.
sheila smith =      =20
shecharlie@aol.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C056D1.70F175C0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 25 11:33:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:14:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: heesun.com!keane From: "Hee Sun Stained Glass, LTD." To: , "Bungi" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: grinder Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:33:45 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C056E4.574EFB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go to your local home store and get a puller use to remove handles from = plumbing fixtures. This will have a guide screw that will rest on the = grinder shaft and 2 arms that will grab just under the grinder bit. By = turning the screw the arms will slowly pull the stuck bit off. Before = attempting this apply a liberal coating of WD-40, or Liquid Wrench. = Allow this to soak in before pulling the bit off. Here's a link to see a picture of one....For the price, it's a must = have. http://www.pascospecialty.com/d00013.htm Robert=20 Hee Sun Stained Glass LTD 324 Main Street Reisterstown, MD 21136 410-833-3007 jeanne@heesun.com www.heesun.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shecharlie@aol.com=20 To: glass@bungi.com=20 Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 11:38 PM Subject: grinder Help! Help!=20 the bit of my grinder won't come off, even though i put grinding = coolant in=20 the grinder. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this off.=20 Thanks for any help you can give me.=20 sheila smith =20 shecharlie@aol.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C056E4.574EFB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Go to your local home store and get a = puller use to=20 remove handles from plumbing fixtures.  This will have a guide = screw that=20 will rest on the grinder shaft and 2 arms that will grab just under the = grinder=20 bit.  By turning the screw the arms will slowly pull the stuck bit=20 off.  Before attempting this apply a liberal coating of WD-40, or = Liquid=20 Wrench.  Allow this to soak in before pulling the bit = off.
 
Here's a link to see a picture of = one....For the=20 price, it's a must have.
 
http://www.pascospecial= ty.com/d00013.htm
 
 
Robert
Hee Sun Stained Glass LTD
324 Main Street
Reisterstown, MD=20 21136
410-833-3007
jeanne@heesun.com
www.heesun.com
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shecharlie@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 = 11:38=20 PM
Subject: grinder

Help! Help!
the bit of my = grinder=20 won't come off, even though i put grinding coolant in
the grinder. = Does=20 anyone have any ideas on how I can get this off.
Thanks for any = help you=20 can give me.
sheila smith      
shecharlie@aol.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C056E4.574EFB20-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 25 14:09:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:53:56 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_90.c87abcd.27518e7e_boundary" Subject: Cutter's Mate Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:51:58 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_90.c87abcd.27518e7e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gang, Well, I have gotten my Cutter's Mate Plus and have used it for several weeks. The more I use it the more I love it! It is wonderful, especially, for the cuts that are usually harder for me to do. Of course, one has to fraction in the type of glass and what it decides to do. But, I still love it! I want to thank everyone who said to "go for it"! I did and I am soooo glad I did. And, for those of you who are still debating.. Go for it! You won't be sorry! Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 --part1_90.c87abcd.27518e7e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gang,
Well, I have gotten my Cutter's Mate Plus and have used it for several weeks.
The more I use it the more I love it! It is wonderful, especially, for the
cuts that are usually harder for me to do. Of course, one has to fraction in
the type of glass and what it decides to do. But, I still love it! I want to
thank everyone who said to "go for it"! I did and I am soooo glad I did. And,
for those of you who are still debating.. Go for it! You won't be sorry!

Ruth
"If we quit voting will they all go away?"
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter
ICQ11716411

--part1_90.c87abcd.27518e7e_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sat Nov 25 14:21:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:06:20 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e.da14acc.27519009_boundary" Subject: GE vs. Pattern Wizard Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:58:33 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_1e.da14acc.27519009_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I have had GE for a while and really like it. But, I wish it numbered the pieces. So, I got the Pattern Wizard. Which does. But, it works sooo much slower than the GE. At least on my computer it does. It is like a delayed reaction. And, another, frustrating problem with the PW is that, at least for me, is that some of the numbers are printed over each other so that some areas have two different numbers on top of each other. Does that happen to anyone else? And how do I prevent that? Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 --part1_1e.da14acc.27519009_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I have had GE for a while and really like it. But, I wish it numbered
the pieces. So, I got the Pattern Wizard. Which does. But, it works sooo much
slower than the GE. At least on my computer it does. It is like a delayed
reaction. And, another, frustrating problem with the PW is that, at least for
me, is that some of the numbers are printed over each other so that some
areas have two different numbers on top of each other. Does that happen to
anyone else? And how do I prevent that?  

Ruth
"If we quit voting will they all go away?"
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--part1_1e.da14acc.27519009_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 26 05:33:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:20:25 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: export2000.ro!mc3 From: mc3@export2000.ro To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN charset=US-ASCII Subject: Romanian Business Opportunity: ABTH Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:29:06 +0200 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk To: glass@bungi.com Attn: Marketing Department From: Andrei Business and Trading House Ref.: Romanian Business Opportunity: ABTH ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Our anti-spamming company policy: NEVER BOTHER YOU AGAIN To remove your E-mail address from the present contact list JUST DO NOT REPLY to this message. 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We'd appreciate your feed-back containing some detailed requests as well as your contact coordinates. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 26 06:08:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:00:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ea.ddd3a66.27527086_boundary" Subject: Strange Question About Patina Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:56:22 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_ea.ddd3a66.27527086_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, just to make sure everyone knows how weird I can get, gotta question... Has anyone ever patina-ed a piece with two patinas? I have a black panther on a grassy/sand background and thought it would look best with black patina for the panther and copper for the rest. Strange, huh!!! Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 --part1_ea.ddd3a66.27527086_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, just to make sure everyone knows how weird I can get, gotta question...
Has anyone ever patina-ed a piece with two patinas? I have a black panther on
a grassy/sand background and thought it would look best with black patina for
the panther and copper for the rest. Strange, huh!!!

Ruth
"If we quit voting will they all go away?"
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter
ICQ11716411

--part1_ea.ddd3a66.27527086_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 26 10:57:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:34:25 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: aol.com!Bobfuses From: Bobfuses@aol.com To: PookyPook@aol.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Strange Question About Patina Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:59:51 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 11/26/00 6:09:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, PookyPook@aol.com writes: > Has anyone ever patina-ed a piece with two patinas? I have a black panther on > > a grassy/sand background and thought it would look best with black patina > for > the panther and copper for the rest. Strange, huh!!! It may be strange but I have done it several times. Having a few details stand out in bright copper is a nice touch. Bob in 9 2 0 2 6 Make sure you punch out the candidate of your choice. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Sun Nov 26 17:02:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:33:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: massed.net!wmagdycz From: "Elaine" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Re: Strange Question About Patina Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:30:03 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0240_01C057D6.E4E67420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use more than one color of patina quite frequently, especially where = there is sand. It looks nice, I think anyway. Elaine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PookyPook@aol.com=20 To: glass@bungi.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:56 AM Subject: Strange Question About Patina Okay, just to make sure everyone knows how weird I can get, gotta = question...=20 Has anyone ever patina-ed a piece with two patinas? I have a black = panther on=20 a grassy/sand background and thought it would look best with black = patina for=20 the panther and copper for the rest. Strange, huh!!!=20 Ruth=20 "If we quit voting will they all go away?"=20 http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter=20 ICQ11716411=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0240_01C057D6.E4E67420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use more than one color of = patina quite=20 frequently, especially where there is sand. It looks nice, I think = anyway.=20 Elaine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PookyPook@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 = 8:56=20 AM
Subject: Strange Question About = Patina

Okay, just to make sure everyone knows = how weird I=20 can get, gotta question...
Has anyone ever patina-ed a piece with = two=20 patinas? I have a black panther on
a grassy/sand background and = thought it=20 would look best with black patina for
the panther and copper for = the rest.=20 Strange, huh!!!

Ruth
"If we quit voting will they all go = away?"=20
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter
ICQ11716411=20

------=_NextPart_000_0240_01C057D6.E4E67420-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 27 00:08:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:52:30 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: go.com!officerjqg From: James Garner To: Glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: strange question about patina Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:46:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Yes I have on a piece that I created as an original design. The accent was copper and the rest was black. I did the black first then washed the piece. I rubed the rereas that were to be copper that got a little black on it and then coppered it. It turned out ptreey good. James If we dont vote someone will for us.... -----Original Message----- From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Date: Sun Nov 26 05:56:22 PST 2000 Subject: strange question about patina >Okay, just to make sure everyone knows how weird I can get, gotta question... >Has anyone ever patina-ed a piece with two patinas? I have a black panther on >a grassy/sand background and thought it would look best with black patina for >the panther and copper for the rest. Strange, huh!!! > >Ruth >"If we quit voting will they all go away?" >http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter > ICQ11716411 > > James Garner ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 27 11:03:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:42:24 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: aol.com!Awbaxter From: Awbaxter@aol.com To: Glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Common Ground:Glass, newsletter of the IGGA Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:37:30 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Hello fellow Bungians and Glass Friends, Last week before Thanksgiving, I mailed out hundreds of copies of the newsletter of the IGGA, "Common Ground: Glass", and had to use an old mailing list to beat the holiday rush. Some of you who are newer members since that list was published in the summer of 1999 might not have received your copy. Please drop me a private line with your postal address, and I will get one out to you a.s.a.p. To those of you who received the newsletter but are no longer members, you have the issue with my compliments, and a hope that you might consider rejoining. Anyone who wishes to receive more information on joining the International Guild of Glass Artists, please email me privately, I would be happy to steer you in the right direction. Thank you for your time and consideration, and this break in bungi glass queries. Ann Baxter Co-Editor, Common Ground: Glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Mon Nov 27 21:28:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:04:19 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: gdi.net!shodge From: Skip Hodge To: Shecharlie@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: grinder Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:50:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Hi Sheila, Sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately Grinder coolant hasn't got anything to do with helping you reomve your grinder bit. What has happened is that little bits of glass dust have worked their way down and around and inbetween the shaft and the bit. Its kind like cemented on now. There are two ways to remove it. 1: get a small wheel puller and GENTLY pull it off. 2: cut the grinder bit down the sides several times to releave some of the grip and pull it off gently. 3: DO NOT USE A HAMMER OF ANY SORT. If you do you might as well just throw the whole the away. Next time be sure to lube the shaft with some vasaline before you put your bit on. Someone at your local glass shop should be able to help you get it off. Keep us informed. Skip Southern Exposure Stained Glass Supply, Inc. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 08:42:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:29:19 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: hotmail.com!laylah778 From: "Lee Boe" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Re: Subscribe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:36:59 -0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Hi Everyone, HELP HELP HELP HELP I am still alive (praise god or somebody) and have been committed against my will to a mental facility in the middle of the state of Florida. I went into cardiac arrest in November. Was brought back on the operating table. I really need the help of anyone who knows me from the last 2 years of my membership. I broke up housekeeping with my (EX) friend, and have all my tools, torches, grinders, $12,000 dollars worth of art glass, all stored in a storage facility. (Some good friends were able to load it up for me, but are unable to help finacially.) If everyone who knows me, as an honest and sane person will send a postal money order made out to Lee M. Boe for $5 US dollars or more if you can spare it, I will be able to save what is meaningful in my life, and get out of this looney bin (it is a real hell pit, all the horror stories you have heard about nursing homes are true.) I have till December 5 to pay Decembers rent for the facility, and have 10 pennies to my name, all my credit cards where stolen, as was my Drivers License with my picture, and Social Security card. Who know how they were misused, while they were stolen. All I own in the world, and thousands of dollars of tools are in the storage facility. If I cannot pay by December 5, 2000 all will be auctioned at a fraction of its value. I have had to cancel all credit and debit cards, and my current checking account, and will pay back next year anyone who helps me now. I must reclaim my life, and tools. I am Lee M. Boe (Lady Lee) or given name is (really) Laylah My new tempory e-mail acount (at a library here in Wauchula) is laylah778@hotmail.com I am the same Lee M. Boe you have all known so long. Please, Please help. Now and quick. My tempory address is Lee Boe Southern Pines Nursing home and Retirement P.O. box 789 Wauchula, Florida 33873 AlF license number is 7853 Phone 1-863-773-4751 (residents phone) The managers here will assure you everything is all right, and it really is not all right. Laylah (Lady Lee) >From: "Lee Boe" >To: glass@bungi.com >Subject: Subscribe >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:52:08 -0000 > >subscibe > > > > >Hi Glenna, > >This is Lee Boe, from central Florida now, temorarily. My new address is >PO Box 789 >Wauchula, Florida 33873 >ALF Licence number#7853 > >Main Phone number is 1-863 773-9557 > >residence Phone is 1-863-773-4751 > >Lee Boe (Laylah) > >Please re-subscribe me to the group >with my new e-mail address > >laylah778@hotmail.com > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 08:43:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:15:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: hotmail.com!laylah778 From: "Lee Boe" To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Subscribe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:52:08 -0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk subscibe Hi Glenna, This is Lee Boe, from central Florida now, temorarily. My new address is PO Box 789 Wauchula, Florida 33873 ALF Licence number#7853 Main Phone number is 1-863 773-9557 residence Phone is 1-863-773-4751 Lee Boe (Laylah) Please re-subscribe me to the group with my new e-mail address laylah778@hotmail.com _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 09:51:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:07:52 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #526 built 2000-Nov-23) X-Path: gjr From: gjr@bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Lee Boe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:05:52 PST Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Regarding Lee boe's msg: I really need the help of anyone who knows me from the last 2 years of my membership. I broke up housekeeping with my (EX) friend, and have all my tools, torches, grinders, $12,000 dollars worth of art glass, all stored in a storage facility. (Some good friends were able to load it up for me, but are unable to help finacially.) If everyone who knows me, as an honest and sane person will send a postal money order made out to Lee M. Boe for $5 US dollars or more if you can spare it, I will be able to save what is meaningful in my life, and get out of this looney bin (it is a real hell pit, all the horror stories you have heard about nursing homes are true.) Snip.... Yes I will be sending him a note asking not to use this group for a this sort of stuff,.....sigh :^( -- Glenna Rand gjr@bungi.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 16:02:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:36:20 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Subject: Re: NG- Glass friends & Lee Boe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:34:09 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<3A243757.84D07BA7@ix.netcom.com>> Precedence: bulk Sorry about that previous email. I wasnt finished with it, and attempted to send it to myself while I rebooted my computer. What I was looking for in the meantime to add to my email was this; Craft Emergency Relief Fund P.O Box 838 Montpelier, VT. 05601 (802) 229-2306 cornelia@craftemergency.org Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 17:03:37 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:39:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: northlights.co.uk!toby From: "Toby" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: S.O.S. Real Help Needed Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:09:32 -0000 Message-ID: <200011290022.eAT0MoW24058@mercury.nildram.co.uk> Precedence: bulk Dear All on Bungi, Here is Elisabeth 'n Toby in UK. I have been on Bungi for a very llong time (years and years!). I have had the wonderful benefit of meeting up with literally hundreds of you in USA during my 1999 USA tour. Many of you have become my friends for Life! (You know who you are!!). Laylah Lee Boe became one of my Lifelong friends. She lives in Sarasota, Florida. I sort of high-lighted her dilemma about 2 years ago on Bungi: she was an estate surveyor who fell through a termite-ridden floor of a house she was surveying and broke her back. She is also an exceedingly talented glass bead maker. In order to survive after her accident, Lee had to take on a tenant to share the costs of running her apartment. However, to cut a long story very short, the tenant could not cope when Lee had to go into hospital for an operation which promised to give her the opportunity to walk again, after so many years of being wheel-chair bound. The tenant appears totally to have abandonned Lee and she has now ended up in a mental institution in Florida. I have spoken to Lee since she was committed and so has my friend Jenny (whom some of you will have met in the States). I think we are both as sane as most of the rest of you on the Bungi Group, but we - like most of you - have someone to support us in times of need and to care for us in our homes. Lee is as sane as we are, but she has no-one closeby to support her: imagine yourselves in her situation now. It could so easily happen to any of us in our times of darkness! At the end of the day, Lee needs our financial help NOW, in order to get her out of the mire that she is in and back to a situation where she doesn't need to depend on anyone else in order to keep her (new) apartment afloat. For the immediate future, Lee needs 500 dollars, so that she can get out of her present confinement and set herself up in a one- person apartment. I and Jenny (who some of you also met last year) are able to pledge 200 pounds sterling between us (about 300 dollars, we think). However, we are very poor: 50 dollars in the UK means a week's food per person; 100 dollars is the cost of keeping two of us alive for a week. I know that there are a lot of you out there for whom 500 dollars would be a drop in the ocean: you would not even notice it had gone! So please, consider that 'there for the grace of God' goes you: put yourself in Lee's shoes, without any family to help you get out of the shit. Lee is as sane as you or I are ( I and Jenny have both recently spoken to her and both of us are in agreement about that!) In order to help Lee get out of the institution to her own apartment, please send some cash! She apparently no longer has a bank account, but you can send her dollars in a registered envelope (which MUST be marked PERSONAL AND PRIVATE) to Lee Boe, Southern Oaks Retirement Centre, 157 Willduke Road, Wauchula, Florida 33873. Please note, that this is not a circular of the usual kind. It is a heartfelt plea from two English friends of Lee's to all the hundreds of other people out there who might be able to help Lee. PLEASE HELP HER!! Elisabeth from UK, Jenny from UK, Toby and Meric ---- As my grandmother said "...there is only nobility of mind" North Lights Stained Glass - homepage http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/kris/northlights/index.htm ---- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 21:19:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:06:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: home.com!cecnralph From: Cecily & Ralph Wood To: Glenna Rand , Bungi Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Subject: Re: Lee Boe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:42:52 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <> Organization: Grendel Studio Precedence: bulk I'm confused. Elisabeth and Jenny seem to think this a genuine plea for help. Your message seems to imply this is a scam. I'd like to know one way or the other. I've never met the woman, but have certainly read her postings. Glenna Rand wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Regarding Lee boe's msg: > I really need the help of anyone who knows me from the last 2 years of my > membership. I broke up housekeeping with my (EX) friend, and have all my > tools, torches, grinders, $12,000 dollars worth of art glass, all stored in > a storage facility. (Some good friends were able to load it up for me, but > are unable to help finacially.) If everyone who knows me, as an honest and > sane person will send a postal money order made out to Lee M. Boe for $5 US > dollars or more if you can spare it, I will be able to save what is > meaningful in my life, and get out of this looney bin (it is a real hell > pit, all the horror stories you have heard about nursing homes are true.) > > Snip.... > > Yes I will be sending him a note asking not to use this group for > a this sort of stuff,.....sigh :^( > > -- > Glenna Rand > gjr@bungi.com > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- ********************************************************************* * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) ********************************************************************* ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 22:06:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:47:24 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: ilnk.com!andor From: "Linda Jo Letscher" To: "Bungi" Subject: Re: Lee Boe Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Cecily, Lee has been on the list for as long as I can remember. I had no doubt her plea was real. We talked glass a couple years ago, when she was thinking of hosting Elisabeth's south Florida part of the tour. But because of her medical problems it didn't come to pass. She is for sure in my prayers. I don't know if she is a member of IGGA but if she is, then the emergency fund sure would have found a good place to help out. Linda Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecily & Ralph Wood" To: "Glenna Rand" ; "Bungi Glass" Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 11:42 PM Subject: Re: Lee Boe > I'm confused. Elisabeth and Jenny seem to think this a genuine plea for > help. Your message seems to imply this is a scam. I'd like to know one way > or the other. I've never met the woman, but have certainly read her postings. > > Glenna Rand wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Regarding Lee boe's msg: > > I really need the help of anyone who knows me from the last 2 years of my > > membership. I broke up housekeeping with my (EX) friend, and have all my > > tools, torches, grinders, $12,000 dollars worth of art glass, all stored in > > a storage facility. (Some good friends were able to load it up for me, but > > are unable to help finacially.) If everyone who knows me, as an honest and > > sane person will send a postal money order made out to Lee M. Boe for $5 US > > dollars or more if you can spare it, I will be able to save what is > > meaningful in my life, and get out of this looney bin (it is a real hell > > pit, all the horror stories you have heard about nursing homes are true.) > > > > Snip.... > > > > Yes I will be sending him a note asking not to use this group for > > a this sort of stuff,.....sigh :^( > > > > -- > > Glenna Rand > > gjr@bungi.com > > ---- > > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > -- > ********************************************************************* > * Cecily Taylor Cummings Wood and/or Ralph Bernard Wood > * Grendel Studio (Glass, Graphics, Gardens, Genealogy) > ********************************************************************* > > > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Tue Nov 28 22:22:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:50:06 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: gjr From: gjr@bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: cecnralph@home.com, glass Subject: Re: Lee Boe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:48:50 PST Message-ID: Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: Lee Boe" on Nov 28, 23:42, Cecily & Ralph Wood writes:] > I'm confused. Elisabeth and Jenny seem to think this a genuine plea for > help. Your message seems to imply this is a scam. I'd like to know one way > or the other. I've never met the woman, but have certainly read her postings. > I do not want to sound hard and uncaring. I do sympathize with Lee but I just don't want the list to get irritated with people using it for this purpose. -- Glenna Rand gjr@bungi.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 29 16:47:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:30:31 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Celtic knotwork wine glasses Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:23:34 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Anyone know of anybody who can do this type of work? If so, please conta= ct Amanda Kirk at rowena28@earthlink.net Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: Amanda Kirk, INTERNET:rowena28@earthlink.net To: [unknown], INTERNET:info@igga.org = Date: 11/27/2000 6:54 PM RE: Celtic knotwork wine glasses = I am looking for wine glasses w/Celtic knotwork etched into them. = Strangely, I cannot find them anywhere, altho vases & bowls & other touri= sty stuff w/knotwork are available in Scotland & Ireland. Do you know how I might find an artisan who makes them? Thank you. Amanda Kirk = ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: rowena28@earthlink.net Received: from localhost.localdomain (mail4.registeredsite.com [209.35.15= 9.16]) by sphmgaae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) with ESMTP id SAA14372 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.igga.org ([216.247.128.16]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13813 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:49:37 -0500 Received: from SMTP32-FWD by mail.igga.org (SMTP32) id A000001E1; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:54:29 -0500 Received: from rmx194-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.41] by mail.igga.org with = ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A4345ED2013A; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:54:28 -0500 Received: from web624-wrb.mail.com (web624-wrb.mail.com [165.251.33.64]) by rmx194-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA03834 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:54:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384421560.975369270445.JavaMail.root@web624-wrb.mail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:54:30 -0500 (EST) From: Amanda Kirk To: info@igga.org Subject: Celtic knotwork wine glasses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 165.247.38.25 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 29 17:16:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:54:54 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: compuserve.com!Ensembles From: "Christie A. Wood" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Looking for a Moose/Elk/Deer pattern Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This guy is looking for patterns featuring moose, elk or deer. If any can recommend a pattern book, please contact him at PCSG@Yahoo.com= Christie A. Wood North Wales, PA USA -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: Andrew Saitz, INTERNET:pcsg@yahoo.com To: [unknown], INTERNET:info@igga.org Date: 11/22/2000 3:20 PM = I'm looking for pattern books that have Moose Elk Deer etc. in them. Any ideas? Thanks, Andy PCSG@Yahoo.com ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 29 17:56:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:27:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Subject: Opinions please Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:26:04 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk The situation... A couple came into the shop commissioned two large sheets of glass with sandblasting on them. They supplied the *artwork*. It was a large blown up (Pixel city) forest scene, with people in it. They said "Leave out the people", do this and than instead. It is tempered because they will go into doors. They also wanted two large sheets of cottswald glass, tempered, and insulated. They gave us a $500 deposit, and have a balance of $1500. A guy that does some gorgeous sandblast work did the sandblasting. All of us at the shop were in awe of the work. It is amazing the detail he was able to incorporate and did a wonderful job of continuing the design from one panel to the next. The couple came in and said "hmph, we really thought there would be more depth, etc...." It really makes no sense. The work is beautiful. No body could argue the job that was agreed on was done. They are acting like they dont want it. How would you guys handle this situation? Suggestions for avoiding this situation in the future? Suzanne ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 29 19:09:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:13:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: heesun.com!sales From: "HSSG Sales" To: Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Holiday Open House Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk We would like to extend holiday greetings to all and invite you to attend our annual open house this Saturday, December 2nd from 12 pm til 6 pm. We will have food, a visit by Santa (ride courtesy of Bransfield Motor Company's Rollback), sales, door prizes, and crate sales at 2 and 4 pm both Saturday and Sunday. We hope that you all can attend and for more information check out our website. Also many of the other shops along Main Street will also be offering holiday specials and more. Once again , Robert, Emilie, and I would like to extend our holiday greetings and wishes to you all. We look forward to seeing you this weekend. If you are coming we would appreciate the donation of a canned good or non perishable food item so that we can complete a food basket for a family in the area. Happy Holidays, Jeanne Keane Hee Sun Stained Glass, Ltd. 324 Main Street Reisterstown , MD 21136 410-833-3007 info@heesun.com sales@heesun.com http://www.heesun.com Custom Design Studio Supplies & Classes for Stained & Fused Glass & Mosaics ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 29 20:36:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:07:09 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: worldnet.att.net!vlg From: "Vincent LaGreca" To: "Toby" , Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: Re: S.O.S. Real Help Needed Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<200011290022.eAT0MoW24058@mercury.nildram.co.uk>> Precedence: bulk Is the address given below still viable? Ciao Vic the Lurker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby" To: "Bungi" Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 7:09 PM Subject: S.O.S. Real Help Needed > > > Dear All on Bungi, > > Here is Elisabeth 'n Toby in UK. I have been on Bungi for a very > llong time (years and years!). I have had the wonderful benefit of > meeting up with literally hundreds of you in USA during my 1999 > USA tour. Many of you have become my friends for Life! (You > know who you are!!). > > Laylah Lee Boe became one of my Lifelong friends. She lives in > Sarasota, Florida. I sort of high-lighted her dilemma about 2 > years ago on Bungi: she was an estate surveyor who fell through a > termite-ridden floor of a house she was surveying and broke her > back. She is also an exceedingly talented glass bead maker. > > In order to survive after her accident, Lee had to take on a tenant to > share the costs of running her apartment. However, to cut a long > story very short, the tenant could not cope when Lee had to go into > hospital for an operation which promised to give her the opportunity > to walk again, after so many years of being wheel-chair bound. > The tenant appears totally to have abandonned Lee and she has > now ended up in a mental institution in Florida. > > I have spoken to Lee since she was committed and so has my > friend Jenny (whom some of you will have met in the States). I > think we are both as sane as most of the rest of you on the Bungi > Group, but we - like most of you - have someone to support us in > times of need and to care for us in our homes. > > Lee is as sane as we are, but she has no-one closeby to support > her: imagine yourselves in her situation now. It could so easily > happen to any of us in our times of darkness! > > At the end of the day, Lee needs our financial help NOW, in order > to get her out of the mire that she is in and back to a situation > where she doesn't need to depend on anyone else in order to keep > her (new) apartment afloat. > > For the immediate future, Lee needs 500 dollars, so that she can > get out of her present confinement and set herself up in a one- > person apartment. I and Jenny (who some of you also met last > year) are able to pledge 200 pounds sterling between us (about > 300 dollars, we think). However, we are very poor: 50 dollars in the > UK means a week's food per person; 100 dollars is the cost of > keeping two of us alive for a week. I know that there are a lot of > you out there for whom 500 dollars would be a drop in the ocean: > you would not even notice it had gone! > > So please, consider that 'there for the grace of God' goes you: put > yourself in Lee's shoes, without any family to help you get out of > the shit. Lee is as sane as you or I are ( I and Jenny have both > recently spoken to her and both of us are in agreement about that!) > > In order to help Lee get out of the institution to her own apartment, > please send some cash! She apparently no longer has a bank > account, but you can send her dollars in a registered envelope > (which MUST be marked PERSONAL AND PRIVATE) to Lee Boe, > Southern Oaks Retirement Centre, 157 Willduke Road, Wauchula, > Florida 33873. > > Please note, that this is not a circular of the usual kind. It is a > heartfelt plea from two English friends of Lee's to all the hundreds > of other people out there who might be able to help Lee. PLEASE > HELP HER!! > > Elisabeth from UK, Jenny from UK, Toby and Meric > ---- > As my grandmother said "...there is only nobility of mind" > North Lights Stained Glass - homepage > http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/kris/northlights/index.htm > ---- > ---- > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Wed Nov 29 22:08:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:52:06 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: yahoo.com!zakgunay From: Zeynep Akgunay To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Cutter oil Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:43:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Hi, This may sound like a stupid question but there you go..what kind of oil(other than the regular cutting oil made for this purpose) can I use in my Toyo pistol cutter? You see there was a leak on the bottle,and now the whole oil is gone.As I now live in China it will take me some time before I can get the cutting oil from the US.Thanks.Zeynep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 03:00:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 02:34:36 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: northlights.co.uk!toby From: "Toby" To: Bungi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Lee Boe Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:14:06 -0000 Message-ID: <200011301027.eAUARjb03616@mercury.nildram.co.uk> Precedence: bulk Dear All at Bungi, Forgive me for taking up space and time again...... and please don't flame; Several people have asked how can they make sure that Lee Boe will get any contribution/help they might be able to send. Her address IS still viable and she is in control, although under considerable physical pain. She gets transport to down-town Wauchula once a day to do her own thing - which includes doing her e-mail at the public library. I have again spoken to Lee last evening; again I reiterate - she is as sane as you and I and her plea is very genuine. She has demanded to be taken to her own GP (Medical General Practitioner) in Sarasota, whom she appears to trust for the last 6 - 7 years. This has also been agreed. Anyone who has expressed willingness to help, COULD instead send either a Money Order or Cashiers Cheque to her (L. Boe) c/o (care of) Dr. Robert Ford 7005 South Tamiami Trail Sarasota Florida 34232 Dr. Robert Ford can - it appears- be contacted/checked out on the Internet via www.webmd.com ; click on Sarasota County click on Dr. R. Ford Lee was interned at the Wauchula place under something called "The Baker Act" in Florida State. I know nothing about this, but intend to find out. I also have the name and title of the case manager at Sarasota Memorial Hospital where Lee was delivered with a cardiac arrest...... which led to this sorry state of affairs. It would appear that this person has a lot to answer for.... Lee has no family other than an 83 year old brother who lives in Nickel Creek in Texas. He - Lee says - has got 35 miles to the nearest mail box and 45 miles to the nearest gas station. "Tu-tu Kelly" - great hunk! Have you got a clue where this Nickel Creek is? You sent me this wonderful atlas of USA which was virtually my Bible for 2 months last year, but I have not found this place. (I did find Wuachula though....). I still have the sticker showing where YOU live in Texas ;-> Please, if you can help, do so - every little will help! If you would like me to monitor whatever you send her that you can spare, to make sure it gets into her own hands, I will be more than happy to do so. Contact me off-Bungi. Bless you all and Thank You Glenna! Elisabeth 'n Toby in UK ---- As my grandmother said "...there is only nobility of mind" North Lights Stained Glass - homepage http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/kris/northlights/index.htm ---- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 07:01:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:35:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: aol.com!HonoluLou From: HonoluLou@aol.com To: zakgunay@yahoo.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Cutter oil Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:35:26 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Hi, Lou here. I'm a newbee, but if you go to this Web-site you can order just about anything including cutter oil. I spent a lot of time overseas myself and did most of my order's via catalog: http://www.delphiglass.com/ Good Luck Lou ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 07:02:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f9.51209e6.2757c1e5_boundary" Subject: Silver Bells Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:44:53 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_f9.51209e6.2757c1e5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to make a silver bells fan lamp for my sis who is in the bell choir at her church.. Is mirror the best way to go? If I would opt for gold, instead, what would be the best glass?? Thanks in advance Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 --part1_f9.51209e6.2757c1e5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to make a silver bells fan lamp for my sis who is in the bell
choir at her church.. Is mirror the best way to go? If I would opt for gold,
instead, what would be the best glass??  Thanks in  advance

Ruth
"If we quit voting will they all go away?"
http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter
ICQ11716411

--part1_f9.51209e6.2757c1e5_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 07:31:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:00:25 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: aol.com!HonoluLou From: HonoluLou@aol.com To: Ensembles@compuserve.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Looking for a Moose/Elk/Deer pattern Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:41:18 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk If you need it for etching, this web site has is pretty keen for precut stencils: http://www.delphiglass.com/ Lou ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 07:35:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:17:16 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk!s.richard From: Steve Richard To: Zeynep Akgunay Subject: Re: Cutter oil Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:10:40 +0000 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0@?>> Precedence: bulk Sewing machine oil or any other thin oil will do. Some people use turpentine, but I find it is too thin. Steve In message <1970Jan1.000.0@?>, Zeynep Akgunay writes > Hi, >This may sound like a stupid question but there you >go..what kind of oil(other than the regular cutting >oil made for this purpose) can I use in my Toyo pistol >cutter? You see there was a leak on the bottle,and now >the whole oil is gone.As I now live in China it will >take me some time before I can get the cutting oil >from the US.Thanks.Zeynep > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >---- >For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com >To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com >Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass -- Steve Richard Verrier Art Glass Ltd s.richard@verrier-scotland.demon.co.uk ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 07:51:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:20:50 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: aol.com!PookyPook From: PookyPook@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_dd.ce8a756.2757ca28_boundary" Subject: web backgrounds Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:20:08 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk --part1_dd.ce8a756.2757ca28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a good source of stained glass for background for a web site? I lost all of my clip art backgrounds that I had! :-((( Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 --part1_dd.ce8a756.2757ca28_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a good source of stained glass for background for a web
site?  I lost all of my clip art backgrounds that I had! :-(((

Ruth
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--part1_dd.ce8a756.2757ca28_boundary-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 08:34:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:19:15 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: stratus.com!Charlie_Spitzer From: "Spitzer, Charlie" To: "'glass@bungi.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; Subject: FW: Silver Bells Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:52:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk you can get colored mirror. i once made a mirror panel of a lighthouse, using blue tinted mirror for the background, with regular mirror as the rays of light. i believe the common colors are blue, gold, gray, brown, and red along with the normal clear glass. i believe there are places that will mirror any glass that you give them, although it's pretty expensive. regards, charlie phx, az -----Original Message----- From: PookyPook@aol.com [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:45 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Silver Bells I would like to make a silver bells fan lamp for my sis who is in the bell choir at her church.. Is mirror the best way to go? If I would opt for gold, instead, what would be the best glass?? Thanks in advance Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 09:59:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:44:45 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: erols.com!deethom From: Dee Thompson To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Cutter oil Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:11:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3.0.32.20001130111154.00d68968@pop.erols.com> Precedence: bulk I use a mix of light sewing machine oil and kerosene. Same little jar has lasted years!!! Dee ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 12:00:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:34:59 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: aol.com!Bobfuses From: Bobfuses@aol.com To: zakgunay@yahoo.com, glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Cutter oil Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:29:54 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk In a message dated 11/29/00 10:11:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, zakgunay@yahoo.com writes: > This may sound like a stupid question but there you > go..what kind of oil(other than the regular cutting > oil made for this purpose) can I use in my Toyo pistol > cutter? Try common lamp oil which is usually highly refined kerosene. If it is to thin and runs through the cutter to fast just add a few drops of common machine oil until you get the correct viscosity. Bob in 9 2 0 2 6 Don't forget to punch out the candidate of your choice. ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 14:56:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:44:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: home.com!esavad From: "Mike Savad" To: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: RE: Silver Bells Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:41:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C05AF4.BCF3FAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i guess mirror is 1 possibilty, i would use new antique silver or amber. anotehr method (providing you can find it), is bulleseye matt irr, they have it in gold and silver. never seen it in person though. ---Mike Savad --- Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/ Contains a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass instruction, and many, many stained glass links. --- 11-7-00 - New Stuff Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now search my site with a built in engine. -----Original Message----- From: PookyPook@aol.com [mailto:PookyPook@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 9:45 AM To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Silver Bells I would like to make a silver bells fan lamp for my sis who is in the bell choir at her church.. Is mirror the best way to go? If I would opt for gold, instead, what would be the best glass?? Thanks in advance Ruth "If we quit voting will they all go away?" http://members.aol.com/RTSkeeter ICQ11716411 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C05AF4.BCF3FAC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i=20 guess mirror is 1 possibilty, i would use new antique silver or amber. = anotehr=20 method (providing you can find it), is bulleseye matt irr, they have it = in gold=20 and silver. never seen it in person though.
 
 
---Mike Savad
 
 

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Contains=20 a wealth of stained glass information, stained glass tips, stained glass = instruction, and many, many stained glass links.
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11-7-00 - New = Stuff=20 Added: How to solder a nice bead, and several new projects. You can now = search=20 my site with a built in engine.

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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 = 9:45=20 AM
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Subject: Silver=20 Bells

I would like=20 to make a silver bells fan lamp for my sis who is in the bell =
choir at her=20 church.. Is mirror the best way to go? If I would opt for gold, =
instead,=20 what would be the best glass??  Thanks in  advance=20

Ruth
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C05AF4.BCF3FAC0-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 16:07:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:41:32 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: csinet.net!stainedglasslamps From: "Stained Glass Lamps" To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:49:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C05AC3.95218B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I would like to ask if any one knows where i can order a 10" spider for = a lamp? Also does anyone know what kind of paint they use on the = plastic items you set out side at Xmas in the yard like the Nativity = Set, as my is scratched up & i need to touch the paint up, but what = kind of paint do you use? As reg. paint won't work as the light won't = show through it. I hope some one can help me out. Thank you. Mary www.stainedglasslamps.com =20 Have a great Holiday. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C05AC3.95218B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
I would like to ask if any one knows = where i can=20 order a 10" spider for a lamp?  Also does anyone know what = kind of=20 paint they use on the plastic items you set out side at Xmas in the yard = like=20 the Nativity Set, as my is scratched up & i need to touch the paint=20 up,  but what kind of paint do you use?  As reg. paint won't = work as=20 the light won't show through it. I hope some one can help me out.  = Thank=20 you.
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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C05AC3.95218B60-- ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 17:02:19 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:42:43 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: slonet.org!edupjohn From: "Peggy W. Johnsen" To: Suzanne Gunn Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Opinions please Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:40:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<1970Jan1.000.0>> Precedence: bulk Suzanne: First of all, anyone who undertakes to do sandetching on tempered glass is really asking for trouble. You might explain to the folk who brought the window in that if tempered glass is sandblasted too deep it will shatter in a heartbeat. If someone wants glass tempered and sandblasted, the sandblasting should be done first. Peggy ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 17:31:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:17:27 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: ix.netcom.com!gunnx4 From: Suzanne Gunn To: "Spitzer, Charlie" , glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Subject: Re: Opinions please Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:32:26 -0600 Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> References: <<75F036A5970CD311A993009027283DC4BA25AB@exphx.az.stratus.com>> Precedence: bulk They came in and didnt say a negative word this time. Balance paid in full! ;o) We put some dk amber glass behind it. I think last time they just couldnt see it very well. Suzanne "Spitzer, Charlie" wrote: > > the deposit should have covered your subcontractor. keep the deposit, keep > the panel, resell it for your costs + a little profit. tell the people to go > away and try someone else. > > regards, > charlie > phx, az > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Suzanne Gunn [mailto:gunnx4@ix.netcom.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:26 PM > > To: glass@bungi.com > > Subject: Opinions please > > > > > > The situation... > > > > A couple came into the shop commissioned two large sheets of > > glass with > > sandblasting on them. They supplied the *artwork*. It was a large > > blown up (Pixel city) forest scene, with people in it. > > They said "Leave out the people", do this and than instead. It is > > tempered because they will go into doors. > > > > They also wanted two large sheets of cottswald glass, tempered, and > > insulated. > > > > They gave us a $500 deposit, and have a balance of $1500. > > > > A guy that does some gorgeous sandblast work did the > > sandblasting. All > > of us at the shop were in awe of the work. It is amazing the > > detail he > > was able to incorporate and did a wonderful job of continuing > > the design > > from one panel to the next. > > > > The couple came in and said "hmph, we really thought there > > would be more > > depth, etc...." > > > > It really makes no sense. The work is beautiful. No body could argue > > the job that was agreed on was done. They are acting like they dont > > want it. > > > > How would you guys handle this situation? Suggestions for > > avoiding this > > situation in the future? > > > > Suzanne > > ---- > > For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com > > To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com > > Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass > > ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass From owner-glass Thu Nov 30 18:39:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com via smail with stdio id for rglass-42; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:00:21 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #527 built 2000-Nov-28) X-Path: aol.com!Wskyrnr21 From: Wskyrnr21@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: cancellation Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:53:15 EST Message-ID: <1970Jan1.000.0> Precedence: bulk Please remove my name from your list of notifications and cancel my subscription. Thank you Kevin Hendon ---- For subscription changes, please mail to: glass-request@bungi.com To send to the list, please mail to: glass@bungi.com Archives available at http://www.bungi.com/glass