From owner-glass Wed Aug 2 06:16:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdday-0000ILa; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:12 PDT X-Path: utica.ge.com!mccoyn From: mccoyn@utica.ge.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:10:49 EDT Message-ID: <9508021310.AA12697@xsrv3> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Subscribe "N. McCoy" From owner-glass Wed Aug 2 10:41:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdhm1-0000kNa; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:40 PDT X-Path: amoco.com!jrylko From: jrylko@amoco.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:36:03 -0500 Message-ID: <199508021737.AA02092@interlock.amoco.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Item Subject: Text_1 Subscribe glass email list. From owner-glass Wed Aug 2 15:31:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdmJn-0000rHa; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:31 PDT X-Path: ptialaska.net!dstewart From: dstewart@ptialaska.net (Stewarts) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Glass mailing list Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:33:54 -0900 Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I would be interested in being included on the glass mailing list. Thank you Sue Stewart From owner-glass Wed Aug 2 16:24:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdn8e-0000cqa; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:23 PDT X-Path: calvin.stemnet.nf.ca!rcrane From: "Robert M. Crane" To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Glass mailing list Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:53:29 -0230 (NDT) Message-ID: <1995Aug2.18529.0> References: <> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I would like to subscribe. Thanks From owner-glass Wed Aug 2 18:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdpB1-0000SWa; Wed, 2 Aug 95 18:34 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Lampshade Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:33:49 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi everyone... Just picked up my last project again....it's been hot working up in the loft but I had to start tacking my lampshade. I'm finally at the soldering stage and was wondering if anyone had any solutions to my problem. The panels (8) are rounded on the bottom with a jewel on the very bottom. The method I was going to use consisted of taping the panels and then lifting to join the last two together. The problems I'm worried about is ,,....will the jewels be able to support the lamp?.....they won't break off? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Glenna -- From owner-glass Wed Aug 2 19:28:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdq1Z-0000nDa; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:28 PDT X-Path: pilot.msu.edu!rosochac From: "Lisa Anne Rosochacki" To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9508030228.AA17758@pilot03.cl.msu.edu> References: <> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk > together. The problems I'm worried about is ,,....will the jewels be > able to support the lamp?.....they won't break off? > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Trylaying down some old towels and then taking some others and making a cone shape and when you pull the pieces up together try to use the towels to help support it rather than having the jewels support the lamp. Tack it and then use a box to do the rest of the soldering. It's a thought. Lisa From owner-glass Thu Aug 3 05:21:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sdzGA-0000RKa; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:20 PDT X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 From: HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 08:13:34 EDT Message-ID: <950803.081629.EDT.HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> References: <> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk How about getting some styrofoam and hollowing out holes for the jewels to sit in? Just a thought (I've never tried it). Our move is going well. Have a cutting and grinding table set up, moved most of the glass successfully, move in a soldering table today, then start unpacking and arranging. Should be working on those new suncatchers by Monday! -- Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (203) 679-2940 FAX (203) 679-4046 UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu ***Summertime: it's vacation time!*** From owner-glass Fri Aug 4 19:10:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0seXkd-0000dHa; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:10 PDT X-Path: mail.prodigy.com!MPGP79B From: MPGP79B@prodigy.com (PEGGY M PALM) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 19:53:33 EDT Message-ID: <013.09487328.MPGP79B@prodigy.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Glenna says: >.will the jewels be able to support the > lamp?.....they won't break off? Hmmm, I guess it depends on the shape of the jewels and how they fit into the pattern, and also on how large and heavy the lamp is. If you have a round jewel which is set into the panel so that about 1/2 of the circumference has been soldered on both sides of the panel, and the lampshade is of average table lamp proportions, I don't think you would have a problem. If it's a weighty lamp with oval jewels fastened more or less only at the tip of the jewel, I would consider treating the jewels like bridging pieces: add them after the main body of the lamp has been soldered together. I'll ask this question on one of the bbs I'm on and let you know if someone else can offer a bright idea. Good luck. Let us know how it works out! [Leave it to Howard to be basking in the sunshine on vacation somewhere when he's NEEDED! :-)] Peggy From owner-glass Sat Aug 5 08:30:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sel9J-0000LUa; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:28 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 08:28:07 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Re: Lampshade" on Aug 4, 19:53, PEGGY M PALM writes:] > Glenna says: > >.will the jewels be able to support the > > lamp?.....they won't break off? > > Hmmm, I guess it depends on the shape of the jewels and how they fit > into the pattern, and also on how large and heavy the lamp is. If you > have a round jewel which is set into the panel so that about 1/2 of the > circumference has been soldered on both sides of the panel, and the > lampshade is of average table lamp proportions, I don't think you would > have a problem. If it's a weighty lamp with oval jewels fastened more > or less only at the tip of the jewel, I would consider treating the > jewels like bridging pieces: add them after the main body of the lamp > has been soldered together. I'll ask this question on one of the bbs > I'm on and let you know if someone else can offer a bright idea. Good > luck. Let us know how it works out! [Leave it to Howard to be basking > in the sunshine on vacation somewhere when he's NEEDED! :-)] Peggy Thanks Peggy I have to solder the backs of the panel yet and then I'm scheduled to take a lamp making course on Aug. 14 (6 weeks) I may just wait and see the technique they show and then go from there. I think the jewels may be ok.....They are round and inset about 1/2 the way into the panel. The lamp is not too big. I let you know the progress. -- From owner-glass Tue Aug 8 11:16:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sftBl-0000KRa; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:15 PDT X-Path: aol.com!TereziB From: TereziB@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Subscribe Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:11:48 -0400 Message-ID: <950808141144_133397688@aol.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please subscribe. From owner-glass Wed Aug 9 08:27:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgD0e-0000bKa; Wed, 9 Aug 95 08:25 PDT X-Path: HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU!MULLER%ADMIN From: MULLER%ADMIN@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU To: glass@bungi.com Subject: filigrees Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 11:04:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1995Aug9.6443.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I haven't corresponded to much on the mailing list, but have done a lot of reading of all of your messages. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a wholesale company that has different filigrees for sale that I could order through the mail. I've had a lot of requests for angels from friends. Does anyone have any great patterns? I'm looking for a pattern of an angel that would stand (3-D), and I tend to like simple designs. Let me know what you might have or a book you might recommend. Barbara (Holland, MI) From owner-glass Wed Aug 9 08:36:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgD9y-0000Pla; Wed, 9 Aug 95 08:35 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: filigrees Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 08:34:50 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "filigrees" on Aug 9, 11:04, MULLER%ADMIN@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU writes:] > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a wholesale company that has different > filigrees for sale that I could order through the mail. > > I've had a lot of requests for angels from friends. Does anyone have > any great patterns? I'm looking for a pattern of an angel that would > stand (3-D), and I tend to like simple designs. Let me know what > you might have or a book you might recommend. Hi Barbara The following wholesale companies I have tried,...They should both have filigrees as well as angel patterns. Good Luck Delphi Stained Glass 2116 E Michigan Ave Lansing, MI 48912 Ph 1-800-248-2048 Warner Crivellaro 1855 Weaversville Road Allentown, Pennsylvania 18103 Ph. 1-800-523-4242 Hope this helps. Glenna -- From owner-glass Wed Aug 9 08:43:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgDH0-0000Dya; Wed, 9 Aug 95 08:42 PDT X-Path: primate.ucdavis.edu!kathe_mcdonald From: "Kathe McDonald" To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: filigrees Date: 9 Aug 1995 08:40:50 -0800 Message-ID: <1995Aug9.04050.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>filigrees Barbara, I have an angel pattern that is pretty easy. I'm somewhat of a beginner, so it is not a complex piece, but makes up nicely. It does not have a filigree for wings, but I did purchase some scalloped foil which added a nice touch to the wings and hem of skirt. If you are interested I'll bring it in to work and xerox for you. Please supply your address if you want me to send it. -------------------------------------- Date: 8/9/95 8:37 AM To: Kathe McDonald From: glass@bungi.com Received: by primate.ucdavis.edu with SMTP;9 Aug 1995 08:36:45 -0800 Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgD0e-0000bKa; Wed, 9 Aug 95 08:25 PDT X-Path: HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU!MULLER%ADMIN From: MULLER%ADMIN@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU To: glass@bungi.com Subject: filigrees Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 11:04:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1995Aug9.6443.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I haven't corresponded to much on the mailing list, but have done a lot of reading of all of your messages. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a wholesale company that has different filigrees for sale that I could order through the mail. I've had a lot of requests for angels from friends. Does anyone have any great patterns? I'm looking for a pattern of an angel that would stand (3-D), and I tend to like simple designs. Let me know what you might have or a book you might recommend. Barbara (Holland, MI) From owner-glass Wed Aug 9 17:11:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgLC8-0000h7a; Wed, 9 Aug 95 17:09 PDT X-Path: mail.prodigy.com!MPGP79B From: MPGP79B@prodigy.com (PEGGY M PALM) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: filigrees Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 19:23:19 EDT Message-ID: <013.09682802.MPGP79B@prodigy.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Barbara, Warner Crivellaro has all kinds of filigree, and also a wide variety of supplies for making angels. Prices vary with size of order. I have a list of wholesalers that I can email, but I don't order enough to know much about most of them. Ed Hoys is the supplier for a local business, and seems very reliable and quick. Warner Crivellaro 1855 Weaversville Rd Allentown, PA 18103 800-523-4242 Ed Hoys - (wholesale) 1620 Fronteac Rd. Naperville, IL 60563-1762 1-800-323-5668 As for angels in books, I haven't made any, but have seen them mostly in Christmas theme books: A Majestic Christmas (Donna Schulze) and Dimensions of Christmas (Terry Nudson) are 2 that list angel projects. Hope this is of help. Let me know if you want the wholesale list also. Peggy > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a wholesale company that has different > filigrees for sale that I could order through the mail. > > I've had a lot of requests for angels from friends. Does anyone have any > great patterns? I'm looking for a pattern of an angel that would stand > (3-D), and I tend to like simple designs. Let me know what you might have > or a book you might recommend. From owner-glass Thu Aug 10 08:59:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sga08-0000dNa; Thu, 10 Aug 95 08:58 PDT X-Path: ix.netcom.com!cjholmes From: cjholmes@ix.netcom.com (Carole Holmes) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Unsubscribe, please!! Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:55:34 -0700 Message-ID: <199508101555.IAA05832@ix9.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please Un-subscribe me from this mailing list. Thanks! From owner-glass Thu Aug 10 09:28:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgaSr-0000lRa; Thu, 10 Aug 95 09:28 PDT X-Path: aol.com!DDuchad From: DDuchad@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: please sign me up Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:24:17 -0400 Message-ID: <950810122415_51944300@aol.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk hi there, please put me on the mailing list Dduchad@aol.com From owner-glass Thu Aug 10 11:05:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgby6-0000Hva; Thu, 10 Aug 95 11:04 PDT X-Path: usc.edu!gentner From: SGentner To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:55:25 -0700 Message-ID: <199508101804.LAA19598@chaph.usc.edu> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please Un-subscribe me from this mailing list. Thanks! From owner-glass Thu Aug 10 15:08:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgflv-00002Ga; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:08 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:09:03 -0700 Message-ID: <199508102209.AA24096@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Guess who is back..... lots of travel stories for later. 120... or 40c heat was real common. To Glenna, pull the lamp up gingerly, put it up side down in a cottage cheese container(low fat) and tack solder the inside seams first, being sure to cross the joining pieces well. That should be enough to allow the shade to be handled carefully. MUCH MUCH more later if anyone gives a whit. Let me know...enjoy P S sorry f this info is un-timely and or late. -- From owner-glass Thu Aug 10 15:13:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgfrF-0000Qma; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:13 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: <199508102214.AA25277@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk substitute roasting for basking....So far no major corrections for your suggestions on the jewels, Peggy. -- From owner-glass Thu Aug 10 17:47:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgiEc-0000fGa; Thu, 10 Aug 95 17:46 PDT X-Path: aol.com!TereziB From: TereziB@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Please UNsubscribe Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 20:45:40 -0400 Message-ID: <950810204534_71420137@aol.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please UNsubscribe me from this mailing list! Thanks! From owner-glass Fri Aug 11 04:45:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgsW8-0000G5a; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:44 PDT X-Path: mail.prodigy.com!MPGP79B From: MPGP79B@prodigy.com (PEGGY M PALM) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 07:47:27 EDT Message-ID: <013.09749590.MPGP79B@prodigy.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hey Howard! Welcome back! > substitute roasting for basking.... So, did you end up well-done, or merely medium rare? (We all know what a rare person you are to begin with!) How was the trip? As for the jewels, thanks for the validation. Good to have you back on line. Peggy From owner-glass Fri Aug 11 10:37:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sgy03-0000TPa; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:36 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Lampshade Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:36:56 -0700 Message-ID: <199508111736.AA02187@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I have been often accused of being half-baked.... If you have any desire to punish yourself for past, present or future posts that you burdened others with, let me know and I will relate to you (personally) the vissitudes of our trip. (To Peggy) All told it was a GOOD trip and many personal things that does not come with a pre-planned (dirty word) tour....later...enjoy -- From owner-glass Mon Aug 14 04:08:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0shxK1-0000PDa; Mon, 14 Aug 95 04:04 PDT X-Path: crosfield.co.uk!jc From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: glass newsgroup vote succeeds Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:07:05 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <9508141107.AA11614@crosfield.co.uk> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Just to let people know that the voting results for the creation of the rec.crafts.glass are out: the proposal has suceeded comfortably (307 for, 12 against), and so the group should be created towards the end of this week. Hopefully, the new newsgroup and the mailing list will coexist happily, and the newsgroup should make it easier for beginners to find the rest of us :-). -- _|_ / | Jerry Cullingford jc@crosfield.co.uk (Work) \_|_ jc@selune.demon.co.uk (Home) \__/ Hemel Hempstead, UK jerry@shell.portal.com (alternate) From owner-glass Mon Aug 14 06:11:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0shzHq-0000bNa; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:10 PDT X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 From: HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu To: glass@bungi.com Subject: lightbox Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 08:58:34 EDT Message-ID: <950814.090644.EDT.HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk AS I have mentioned, I've been moving, but I had most of my workshop moved and set up and had to get some work done, so started cutting. I draw my patterns on glass with a Sharpie. I had to cut some dark blue cathedral and could not see the lines well. No Lightbox... Here's a cheap and easy solution. I took an old plastic frame, one of those box like things that have inch thick sidewalls and put the glass on that. Adjusted light to near edge of table. (I also have overhead lights.) It worked wonderfully. Eventually the frame will scratch, but I picked it up at a garage sale for 50cents. Also held up well to the cutting pressure. -- Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (203) 679-2940 FAX (203) 679-4046 UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu ***Summertime: it's vacation time!*** From owner-glass Mon Aug 14 09:14:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0si28r-0000bBa; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:13 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: lightbox Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:14:25 -0700 Message-ID: <199508141614.AA10616@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk To Dorothy....a quickie....different color sharpies reflect better on OwFVrtdk)_aain colors. on certain colors....The worst color sharpie to use is black. Try blue on purple and dark colors. I like and use the ultra or micro- fine ones. The red ones are also quite versatile for reflecting. later...enjoy -- From owner-glass Tue Aug 15 14:32:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0siTYu-0000lLa; Tue, 15 Aug 95 14:30 PDT X-Path: aol.com!RTMEMT From: RTMEMT@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: glass mailing list request Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:25:50 -0400 Message-ID: <950815172452_75357655@aol.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk subscribe glass email From owner-glass Tue Aug 15 18:54:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0siXdc-00004da; Tue, 15 Aug 95 18:51 PDT X-Path: aol.com!TereziB From: TereziB@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Please cancel Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 21:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: <950815214658_55408660@aol.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please cancel my subscription to this group. Thanks. From owner-glass Tue Aug 15 19:25:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0siY9h-0000Xta; Tue, 15 Aug 95 19:24 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Please cancel Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:24:20 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Please cancel" on Aug 15, 21:47, TereziB@aol.com writes:] > Please cancel my subscription to this group. Thanks. You have been removed. -- From owner-glass Wed Aug 16 05:53:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sihvk-0000Yoa; Wed, 16 Aug 95 05:50 PDT X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 From: HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu To: glass@bungi.com Subject: angels Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:35:04 EDT Message-ID: <950816.084616.EDT.HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Was it here that someone was asking for a 3-D angel pattern. I found one in the Sept 15, 1989 SCORE -- the December pattern. It's an angel holding a rainbow. I can't afford to copy and mail to all of you, so check with you local distributors and ask if they keep the old patterns on file. Else contact me at hcladm02@uconnvm.uconn.edu and we'll arrange something. (SCORE is a Spectrum publication, where those monthly patterns come from, for those who don't know.) Apologies if this is a repeat message. My mailer froze as I was messaging! -- Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (203) 679-2940 FAX (203) 679-4046 UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu ***Summertime: it's vacation time!*** From owner-glass Fri Aug 18 10:11:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sjUuT-0000CIa; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:08 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: I found the newsgroup(with my son's help) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:09:21 -0700 Message-ID: <199508181709.AA26651@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Posted my first message to the newsgroup. Also, Hello, is anyone out there...enjoy -- From owner-glass Fri Aug 18 14:34:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sjZ2b-0000W0a; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:33 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: I found the newsgroup(with my son's help) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:33:04 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "I found the newsgroup(with my son's help)" on Aug 18, 10:09, Elaine Lea Rubin writes:] > > Posted my first message to the newsgroup. > Also, Hello, is anyone out there...enjoy Hello,...I'm here. Everyone's out enjoying the great weather I think. I'm headed for the beach tomorrow. -- From owner-glass Sat Aug 19 15:53:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sjwkE-0000HMa; Sat, 19 Aug 95 15:52 PDT X-Path: calvin.stemnet.nf.ca!rcrane From: "Robert M. Crane" To: GLASS@BUNGI.COM Subject: BEVEL GRAPHICS Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 20:21:45 -0230 (NDT) Message-ID: <1995Aug19.173345.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A COPY OF 3.5" DISKS ON THE TOPIC OF BEVEL GRAPHICS- FOR AN IBM COMPUTER . THE SET CONSISTS OF NINE DISKS. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BUYING A USED SET OR IF ANYONE COULD TELL ME THE SOURCE SO THAT I MAY ORDER A NEW SET, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. ( I WOULD APPRECIATE KNOWING THE PRICE ALSO ) THANKS ROBERT CRANE ST. PHILLIPS NFLD. CANADA From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 07:10:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skXW6-0000eVa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 07:07 PDT X-Path: mail.prodigy.com!MPGP79B From: MPGP79B@prodigy.com (PEGGY M PALM) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Glass newsgroup Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:34:00 EDT Message-ID: <013.00148956.MPGP79B@prodigy.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Howard - Saw your post on the new internet newsgroup. I think you should do the FAQ for lampmaking also. The ones I've seen have simply been in Q and A format, addressing the questions most beginners ask. I suspect you can come up with some you've heard a few times, no? The first one I had was "how much SG experience do I need to have before trying a Tiffany lamp?". On other boards and lists, the originator sometimes posts a "trial" version to the group to see if there's anything to be added. Usually, they add (long) to the subject to warn those who have to pay by the byte! Should all of us on this list submit questions for you to answer? Whatever happened to your promised vacation stories? I've been coping with a basement flood and an invasion of snakes (yech!) and haven't spent much time with the computer of late. Peggy From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 07:24:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skXkF-0000Yua; Mon, 21 Aug 95 07:22 PDT X-Path: amd.com!Beth.Paxton From: Beth.Paxton@amd.com (Beth Paxton) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: lightbox Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:21:57 CDT Message-ID: <9508211421.AA26621@cassatt.amd.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk > From owner-glass@daver.bungi.com Mon Aug 14 08:11 CDT 1995 > X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 > To: glass@bungi.com > Subject: lightbox > Reply-To: glass@bungi.com > Content-Type> : > text> > Content-Length: 853 > X-Lines: 17 > > AS I have mentioned, I've been moving, but I had most of my workshop > moved and set up and had to get some work done, so started cutting. > I draw my patterns on glass with a Sharpie. I had to cut some dark > blue cathedral and could not see the lines well. No Lightbox... > Here's a cheap and easy solution. I took an old plastic frame, one > of those box like things that have inch thick sidewalls and put the glass > on that. Adjusted light to near edge of table. (I also have overhead > lights.) It worked wonderfully. Eventually the frame will scratch, but > I picked it up at a garage sale for 50cents. Also held up well to the > cutting pressure. > I also use a marker to draw patterns on glass -- on dark glass, I use a white marker... I'm at my *real* job now, and can't remember the brand of marker (and can't get to my workbench to give you more info) but got it at my local stained glass supply store. It is a pen with that has a colored fluid in the barrel and a tough plastic point. As you apply downward pressure on the pen, the colored fluid comes out around the point. The pens come in dark or light colors. Beth Paxton CAD Systems Support Advanced Micro Devices CAD Technology & Systems 5204 E. Ben White Blvd. M/S 553 Austin, TX 78741 email:beth.paxton@AMD.COM voice:512-602-2267 fax:512-602-5156 > -- > Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (203) 679-2940 FAX (203) 679-4046 > UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 > HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu > > ***Summertime: it's vacation time!*** > From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 08:23:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skYgb-0000YMa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:22 PDT X-Path: bright.net!sfware From: sfware@bright.net To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Stained Glass Supplies Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:06:38 PDT Message-ID: <1995Aug21.18638.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk My wife is interested in beginning a hobby working with stained glass. You were referred to my by Howard Rubin as potentially having a list of suppliers of tools and supplies who do not require credentials for re-sale. We would appreciate any information you may have. Thanks in advance for the help. Steve Ware ------------------------------------- Name: Stephen F. Ware E-mail: sfware@bright.net ------------------------------------- Don't squat with yur spurs on!! NRA Life, NAHC Life, IHMSA 33287 From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 09:57:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0ska9r-0000Zma; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:57 PDT X-Path: aol.com!RTMEMT From: RTMEMT@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: BEVEL GRAPHICS Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 12:52:45 -0400 Message-ID: <1995Aug21.85245.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk "IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A COPY OF 3.5" DISKS ON THE TOPIC OF BEVEL GRAPHICS- FOR AN IBM COMPUTER . THE SET CONSISTS OF NINE DISKS. " Can you explain what this is??? From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 10:31:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skagd-0000gGa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:30 PDT X-Path: gjr From: gjr@daver.bungi.com (Glenna Rand) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Stained Glass Supplies Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:30:47 PDT Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk [In the message entitled "Stained Glass Supplies" on Aug 21, 11:06, sfware@bright.net writes:] > My wife is interested in beginning a hobby working with stained glass. > > You were referred to my by Howard Rubin as potentially having a list of > suppliers of tools and supplies who do not require credentials for > re-sale. > > We would appreciate any information you may have. Thanks in > advance for the help. Hi Steve: The file of suppliers (suppliers.txt) as well as all of the back issues of the stained glass mailing list are available from anonymous ftp to daver.bungi.com, in the pub/glass directory. Enjoy Glenna -- From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 10:34:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skajJ-0000eRa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:33 PDT X-Path: freenet.scri.fsu.edu!urselh From: Ursel Howland To: glass@bungi.com Subject: glass newsgroup Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:32:43 18000 Message-ID: <199508211732.NAA23624@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk ...hey, I want to read the new glass newsgroup too.... have been cruising the usenet, but have not found it. Is it under rec.crafts.glassworking? Do I need to contact my Sys.Admin. to provide access?? Or should I just be patient and wait a few more days? Thanks for any info you may have. UrselH, Northern Florida. Happy Soldering! -- e From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 10:45:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skatj-00003Ta; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:44 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Stained Glass Supplies Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:45:06 -0700 Message-ID: <199508211745.AA15776@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hello, Glenna and all the others....Howard asking a question. When I make up a faq list, what happens to it, who makes updates, where it is stored, how is it accessed, how is it updated, are there any guide-lines, who will edit and put it in order????? As for the text that I can do...it is the rest of the "stuff" that I do not know. enjoy -- From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 10:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skb26-0000L3a; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:53 PDT X-Path: shani.net!yeelut1 From: MEIR ROTFLEISCH To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: glass newsgroup Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 20:47:25 +0300 (WET) Message-ID: References: <<199508211732.NAA23624@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Ursel Howland wrote: > > > ...hey, I want to read the new glass newsgroup too.... > have been cruising the usenet, but have not found it. Is it under > rec.crafts.glassworking? Do I need to contact my Sys.Admin. to > provide access?? Or should I just be patient and wait a few more days? > Thanks for any info you may have. UrselH, Northern Florida. > Happy Soldering! > > > -- > e > I too haven't found it via my Internet Provider. I guess they just aren't up to speed!! Meir From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 10:59:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skb7Q-0000OIa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:58 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: glass newsgroup Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:54:26 -0700 Message-ID: <199508211754.AA17965@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Ursel, It is a scary time when I can offer computer advice, Try rec.crafts.glass or rec.crafts.misc to see if it is on the newsgroups. My server does not let me post to the rec. groups, but my son set up a limited use for me through his teleport account for 30hrs per month, so i have another set of stuff to wade through read newsgroups and post. My server is osl.or.gov and must be for specific groups and to set up for posting...only $75.00 per year with unlimited time and it is a local call,too. I am very very slowly learning the vernacular, argot, cant, and other terminology that will make me dangerous, and eventually maybe even able to do something with it...later -- From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 12:07:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skcAz-0000E6a; Mon, 21 Aug 95 12:06 PDT X-Path: nwlink.com!vlawson From: vlawson@nwlink.com (Victoria Lawson) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Gatewayed mail message Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 12:05:15 -0700 Message-ID: <199508211907.MAA06324@washington.nwlink.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk subscribe ---------------------------------------------- ...you've got crayon teeth, crayon teeth, rainbows in your molars... Largesse Duckworth ---------------------------------------------- From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 13:18:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skdIl-0000QJa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:18 PDT X-Path: calvin.stemnet.nf.ca!rcrane From: "Robert M. Crane" To: RTMEMT@aol.com Subject: Re: BEVEL GRAPHICS Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 17:48:02 -0230 (NDT) Message-ID: <1995Aug21.1502.0> References: <<1995Aug21.85245.0>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk when working with beveled glass, you may use your computer to design a window. ( there in comes the idea of beveled glass designs designed for the computer. I hope that this explains what I am looking for. If you need further clarification please do not nesitate. From owner-glass Mon Aug 21 14:40:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skeZa-0000WAa; Mon, 21 Aug 95 14:39 PDT X-Path: aol.com!RTMEMT From: RTMEMT@aol.com To: rcrane@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca Subject: Re: BEVEL GRAPHICS Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 17:38:54 -0400 Message-ID: <1995Aug21.133854.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk "when working with beveled glass, you may use your computer to design a window. ( there in comes the idea of beveled glass designs designed for the computer" I had surmised that part. But I didn't know there was a commercial product out there. That is what I wanted explanation of. I guess I'll just monitor the mailing list. I've been looking for a 3D design program to do this very thing with lampshades (design my own patterns). Do you have any recommendations on this? Thanks. From owner-glass Tue Aug 22 01:08:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0skoNh-0000bfa; Tue, 22 Aug 95 01:08 PDT X-Path: crosfield.co.uk!jc From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: FAQ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 08:10:56 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <9508220811.AA14357@crosfield.co.uk> References: <<199508211745.AA15776@ednet1.osl.or.gov>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk > > > > Hello, Glenna and all the others....Howard asking a question. > When I make up a faq list, what happens to it, who makes updates, > where it is stored, how is it accessed, how is it updated, are there > any guide-lines, who will edit and put it in order????? As for the text > that I can do...it is the rest of the "stuff" that I do not know. OK, here's an attempt at an FAQ FAQ :-) Q: What's an FAQ? A: A list of frequently asked questions and answers, and other useful information. Q: What's the format? A: Usually, for newsgroups, it's a plain text file; big ones may be done in such a way that people can easily skip to the section they want to find, with a contents list at the front. Very big ones may be split into several parts. Q: Who updates it? A: Whoever's maintaining it, which is usually one person. They can either write the whole thing themselves, edit together contributions from other people, or anything in between. Q: How do people get to see it? A: The maintainer posts it to the newsgroup, in the same way as any other newsgroup article, on a regular basis - the idea is that any new readers who join the newsgroup will have a reasonable chance of seeing it. How often to post it depends on several factors, but typical intervals range from weekly to monthly. Q: Why can't you just post it once? A: Because news systems regularly delete ("expire") old articles; with new news articles running at several (12-15 or more?) megabytes worth per day, nobody can afford to keep things permanently. Typical expire times can be anything between a few days to a month or so. Q: Doesn't that mean that some sites would still have the old copy when the new one is posted? A: Yes. But you can add a line to the message headers to specify when the message should expire - which probably won't make it survive longer on sites with short expire times, but may help on sites with longer times. Q: Is there any other place to find FAQs? A: Yes. There are copies of a lot of FAQs available by ftp from rtfm.mit.edu; I'm not totally sure how they get there, but I suspect most of the ones that appear in the news.answers newsgroup end up there. news.answers is a moderated group just for FAQs; I think they may have some guidelines for the recommended FAQ structure. [in these cases, the FAQ article is usually crossposted to the original newsgroup and news.answers]. Q: What's crossposting? A: Basically, it's a way of making the same message appear in more than one newsgroup; the advantage is that only one copy gets sent around the net instead of one per group, and that once a user has read the article in one group, it can be marked as read by that user in the other groups as well. This reduces comms costs, and is nicer for the user as well. Have a look in news.answers for examples of FAQs, and maybe some guidelines too. -- _|_ / | Jerry Cullingford jc@crosfield.co.uk (Work) \_|_ jc@selune.demon.co.uk (Home) \__/ Hemel Hempstead, UK jerry@shell.portal.com (alternate) From owner-glass Tue Aug 22 05:16:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sksFD-0000PGa; Tue, 22 Aug 95 05:15 PDT X-Path: calvin.stemnet.nf.ca!rcrane From: "Robert M. Crane" To: RTMEMT@aol.com Subject: Re: BEVEL GRAPHICS Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 09:45:28 -0230 (NDT) Message-ID: <1995Aug22.65728.0> References: <<950821172400_59786809@mail02.mail.aol.com>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk I have a book by Randolph Raum called "Infinity Bevel Systems" in which he uses several groups of bevels to produce windows. In the introduction, he describes how to use 'designer paks' which are multiple sheets of translucent matte vinyl graphich of the entire Infinity Line. This same information is available on computer disksso that programs such as Corel Draw may be used to aid in the design of windows. Another method is to scan the designs in books, but this is often times illegal. But there are disks available and I was wondering if anyone knew the source and the price. Thanks for your interest. From owner-glass Wed Aug 23 11:17:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0slKKO-0000ksa; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:15 PDT X-Path: freenet.scri.fsu.edu!urselh From: Ursel Howland To: glass@bungi.com Subject: glass newsgroup Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 18:45:56 18000 Message-ID: <199508212246.SAA27976@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Ursel here, thanks for the responses. It's good to know that I'm not the only one that's computer-challenged :-) Rea2ead in rec.crafs.misc today that Glass Crafter's is setting up a web page!! Now if I just had a graphics-capable server to look at all that georgeous glass out there.... Just started on my first project after a long hot summer: A center panel in the built-in closets (cherry, husband is building them) in the spare room. A good place to "practice", before tackling the highly visible kitchen and dining room. Howard, I have decided on foil, just can't warm up to came just yet. In case anyone is interested, the theme in the room is seashells by the seashore. I know, I know, I'm corny, but I **like** shells, so the panel is -- guess what --. Plan to add glass globs and polished stones here and there. But have to bite the bullet and buy fitting glass locally @ full packed retail, but am looking fkinging for specific colors an which is hard to do via mail order. Does it pay to spend the $$ on sample sets? Seems to me, the pieces are so small, you wouldn't get a good idea on the colors, especially multi-opaques, etc. And for the expenditure I could buy quite a bit at my local retailer. Happy soldering! UrselH in Northern Florida. -- e From owner-glass Wed Aug 23 14:49:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0slNe4-0000QLa; Wed, 23 Aug 95 14:47 PDT X-Path: ix.netcom.com!cjholmes From: cjholmes@ix.netcom.com (Carole Holmes) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Un-subscribe Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:45:00 -0700 Message-ID: <199508232145.OAA13592@ix6.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Please remove my name from this mailing list ... Thank you! From owner-glass Wed Aug 23 17:36:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0slQGg-0000ZBa; Wed, 23 Aug 95 17:35 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: glass newsgroup Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 17:36:05 -0700 Message-ID: <199508240036.AA12040@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Ursel, Howard,here In my opinion, samples of handmade glass do not show enough mix to be accurate. If you keep a piece of whatever you work withj nad label it, eventually you will have a fairly good representation of glass. I only have a Spectrum set and it for my studentsd to order from, so I do not have to drag pieces to class. As for your Sea shore theme, look into getting a split or half Nautilus shell...a good start and easy to work with....watch when turning window over due to height of shell. Later for more... -- From owner-glass Mon Aug 28 23:42:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snKK8-0000kHa; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:39 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: Glass newsgroup Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 23:39:41 -0700 Message-ID: <199508290639.AA07703@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Sorry Peggy, kind lost it ....We have had company, my wife's inlaws. What kind of snakes????never met a snake I did not like-can not say that about people. I have been working on a q&a list, but not ready for public consumption yet. I will probably micro-size our vaction stories to a few thousand words, and will e-mail you directly, however i will probably keep it in a word program for further punishment for those who request it. Getting late...later -- From owner-glass Tue Aug 29 06:33:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snQk6-00003va; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:30 PDT X-Path: aol.com!DDuchad From: DDuchad@aol.com To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Glass newsgroup Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:29:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1995Aug29.52930.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Check out rec.crafts.glass have it now DBD From owner-glass Tue Aug 29 20:41:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sndzS-0000kEa; Tue, 29 Aug 95 20:39 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: test Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:39:33 -0700 Message-ID: <199508300339.AA23495@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk This is Howard, and I have started a FAQ...I am going to send the part done to you to see if the format will work with my carrier. FAQ on lampshade making Introduction: This FAQ is geared for one who has had some experience in the Copper foil technique and has the basic tools. Specific equipment for lampshade making will be mentioned and recommended as needed. 01. Getting started: This FAQ will stress careful and production methods to produce fine quality work as efficiently as possible. 02. Panel Lamps: Description: Any amount of panels (trapeziods or rectangles) selected by you. Usually comprised of trapezoids that are smaller on top than the bottom. Mathematics: To design a specific size shade, the formula is; Pi (3.14) times the diameter (you select) divided by the amount of panels (you select) in the lamp... Example: 3.14x8inches=25.12 divided by 10 panels=2.51 The bottom of the trapezoid will be about 2.5 inches. Use the same formula for the top. Size: Decide on the height of the shade first. Draw a verticle line the height you have decided the shade will be. Decide on the top and bottom diameters. Use the above formula to determine the length of the bottom and top. Center the bottom and top lengths on the verticle line. Connect the top left side to the bottom left side and do the same to the right side. With luck, this should be a Trapezoid the size you want. Glass: The glass generally used for the area that the bulb lights should be an opalescent type. The trim pieces or pieces below the source of light (bulb) can be either opalescent or a cathedral glass. As you can see, not too good. Best chance is to the newsgroup,and then on to whoever??? Later...Howard -- From owner-glass Tue Aug 29 22:26:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snfeY-0000Yaa; Tue, 29 Aug 95 22:25 PDT X-Path: freenet.scri.fsu.edu!urselh From: Ursel Howland To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: glass newsgroup Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 17:30:07 18000 Message-ID: <199508292130.RAA09032@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> References: <<199508240036.AA12040@ednet1.osl.or.gov>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk > > > > Ursel, Howard,here In my opinion, samples of handmade glass do > not show enough mix to be accurate. If you keep a piece of whatever > you work withj nad label it, eventually you will have a fairly > good representation of glass. Thanks for the hint. I'll be able to do this, now that my glass room is organized and all the scrap glass has been sorted into boxes by color :-). just have to remember to keep the numbers... I only have a Spectrum set and it for my studentsd to order from, so I do not have to drag pieces to class. > As for your Sea shore theme, look into getting a split or half > Nautilus shell...a good start and easy to work with....watch when > turning window over due to height of shell. > Later for more.. Another good hint. Will save it for the next one, this panel is finished. Do have more questions, though (I do first, then ask... bad habit which makes things interesting...) The "picture part" of the panel is 12-1/2" x 21-1/2", it seemed "floppy" so I reinforced the circumference with 14 gauge copper wire, then surrounded that with a 1-3/4" glass "frame", w. mitered corners and only one joint in the center of the long sides. My husband is going to mount it into the frame of the door and plans to use silicone (or similar) to stop it from bouncing around. The door is in the upper portion of the wall unit and will be used very little. Is there anythiing else I should have done? Do I need to start over??? ...Would also like to hear/read about your vacation adventes, love to travel, if only from an armchair! TTYL - UrselH in Northern Florida. Happy Soldering! > > -- > > > > > -- e From owner-glass Wed Aug 30 05:23:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snm9c-000031a; Wed, 30 Aug 95 05:22 PDT X-Path: HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU!MULLER%ADMIN From: MULLER%ADMIN@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU To: glass@bungi.com Subject: world wide web Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:20:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1995Aug30.32046.0> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if there is information on Stained Glass on World Wide Web? and if there is, how to access it? I just learned that I have the capability to get onto WWW, but have no idea what's out there. I did a search, using the word "glass" and "stained glass", but didn't discover very much. Howard, the FAQ that you're putting together, is that for WWW or something else? This is the only "list" I'm on for stained glass; are there others that are helpful? Barbara Holland, MI From owner-glass Wed Aug 30 05:49:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snmYl-0000CRa; Wed, 30 Aug 95 05:48 PDT X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 From: HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: world wide web Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:45:40 EDT Message-ID: <950830.084829.EDT.HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> References: <<1995Aug30.32046.0>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk There are a lot of different search engines on WWW and each will return different documents. If yoiu search on Yahoo (http://www.yahoo.com), you will get links to other searchers, like Lycos and WebCrawler. Some of the hits will be bogus BTW, but you'll find some stuff. Some of it is people who have items for sale. -- Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (203) 679-2940 FAX (203) 679-4046 UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu From owner-glass Wed Aug 30 10:28:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snquN-0000UEa; Wed, 30 Aug 95 10:26 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: glass newsgroup Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 10:27:14 -0700 Message-ID: <199508301727.AA08430@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi Ursel, Howard here...To the point, I use double backed glazier's tape rather than silicone rubber. The tape comes in a few widths, easy to work with, real sticky on both sides, and hold up very well. Try a glass shop for it. It is foam and will also cushion the window. As for bracing, the few larger windows I have done, I have used welding rod(round) for the brace. I solder a 2" piece of copper wire into some of the joints across the straightest line in the window (at 1/3s) of the height. Make a "U" of the wire, lay the rod on the seam,and twist the wire until it is tight. Solder the wire to the rod. As for the "trip" writing it up, so as not to put anyone to sleep within the first 30 seconds...enjoy -- From owner-glass Wed Aug 30 10:32:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0snqxk-00004da; Wed, 30 Aug 95 10:30 PDT X-Path: ednet1.osl.or.gov!erubin From: erubin@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Elaine Lea Rubin) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: world wide web Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 10:30:36 -0700 Message-ID: <199508301730.AA09413@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk This is Howard...with my limited computer skills, I do not know where the FAQ will go. The intent is to post it to rec.crafts.glass but so far it "ain't" working. If need be it will go to glass@ and someone with skill can send it on to...????? later -- From owner-glass Thu Aug 31 05:54:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0so96u-0000hHa; Thu, 31 Aug 95 05:52 PDT X-Path: cps.cmich.edu!eiszler From: Susan Eiszler To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: world wide web Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1995Aug31.45111.0> References: <<1995Aug30.32046.0>> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk > Does anyone know if there is information on Stained Glass on > World Wide Web? and if there is, how to access it? I just > learned that I have the capability to get onto WWW, but have > no idea what's out there. I did a search, using the word > "glass" and "stained glass", but didn't discover very much. Delphi has a site. http://www.voyager.net/delphiglass It was OK but nothing spectacular. I'm going there tomorrow and will make several suggestions to them like downloadable patterns, etc. I imagine they have it linked to other spots but haven't had the time to check further. I just finished another window and installed it. It looks terrific BUT.... As some of you know I do mainly lead came work. This is the first time I have had anything sag when being installed. It is a 13X35 window (13 vertical) with a zinc border. I used wooden match sticks as a shim where it was sagging but I am worried that in time the glass may crack, etc. Any ideas why it happened or if I should install it differently? Sue eiszler@cps.cmich.edu From owner-glass Thu Aug 31 06:24:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0so9a7-0000Jda; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:22 PDT X-Path: ptialaska.net!dstewart From: dstewart@ptialaska.net (Sue/Dave Stewart) To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: world wide web Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 05:25:43 -0900 Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk Hi... So far, the best place for information on glass...of any kind, is the newsgroup rec.crafts.glass. We're having a wonderful time over there!!!! Join in! Sue Sue Stewart A Touch of Glass Where Glass is Class! From owner-glass Thu Aug 31 09:04:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0soC2m-0000GLa; Thu, 31 Aug 95 09:00 PDT X-Path: YaleVM.CIS.Yale.Edu!UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU!HCLADM02 From: HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu To: glass@bungi.com Subject: Re: world wide web Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:59:47 EDT Message-ID: <950831.120110.EDT.HCLADM02@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> References: <> Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk My site supposedly has it available, but NOTHING has been received (rec.crafts.glass). In fact, it listed messages 3 to 0 ! Dorothy -- Dorothy Kalahan, Interlibrary Loan (860) 679-2940 FAX (860) 679-4046 UCONN Health Center Library, POB 4003, Farmington CT 06034-4003 HCLADM02@UConnVM.uconn.edu From owner-glass Thu Aug 31 11:40:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: by daver.bungi.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0soEXE-00004za; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:40 PDT X-Path: mercury.sfsu.edu!hui From: HUI CHEN To: glass@bungi.com Subject: please cancel my name from the mailing list Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: glass@bungi.com Precedence: bulk please cancel my name from the mailing list. thanks!!!